Running Thread 2014 - Page 10

On April 24 2014 07:57 zulu_nation8 wrote:
hi guys i just got a pair of flyknit lunar1s and the fabric where the ankle is rubs against my ankle when I walked around in them. Does anyone know if this gets better over time?

On April 25 2014 13:53 Cecil wrote:
OCR is kind of a hybrid of running, so I guess this can belong here. Last week I did the Miami Super Spartan and I had the privilege to work with a team called making Sean a Spartan. What was their goal? To get Sean - a wheelchair bound man with cerebral palsy through a Spartan Super (8+ miles of obstacles and rough terrain).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHMy8n17egM

On April 27 2014 01:36 L_Master wrote:
Fuucckkkkkk. Feel like garbage today, so probably not racing Sunday. Ah well, track race in 2 weeks

Kill it Don_Julio!

On April 27 2014 23:18 LuckyFool wrote:
ran a 20:57 5K this morning on a pretty hilly course so I'm pretty happy with that time. Just about all set for half marathon in 2 weeks, 1:45 should be in the bag unless something crazy happens.

On April 28 2014 22:08 Don_Julio wrote:
Holy shit. What a race. I finished at 3:05 hours. I wanted to run sub 3 hours but I underestimated the hills. These motherfucking hills. I'm really, really proud as I gave everything I had and the Hermannslauf is an amazing experience.

We arrived at the start way too early because my friend tends to be overcautious. So we had to stay in the cold and wet weather (about 11°C but no rain) for almost two hours before the start of the race. The start was at the Hermannsdenkmal, a monument for Arminius who defeated the Romans lead by Varus in these hills and stopped any Roman invasion plans of the Barbarian lands east of the Rhine forever.+ Show Spoiler [The monument, covered in fog] +
Everything was well organized. There were enough toilets. There was a transport for our marked bags with extra clothes and stuff we need at the finish line.

We had to wait another 30 minutes in the starting area which was fine as everyone was cheerful and we all motivated each other. I managed to be in the first third of my starting group so it didn't took to long to start my actual race. It started to rain right at the moment my group started. The first 3k were all downhill. I felt pretty good with just a little twitch in my left thigh due to not being warmed yet.
The first big hill started at about 5km. It was a challenge but I was able to run it all the way. It was still raining but I barely noticed it. We got to a huge military road for tanks or something with a huge crowd cheering for us. Almost felt like the Tour de France. I still felt fresh and was at a ~2:50h pace. We followed the trail which got really muddy thanks to the rain. It was rolling hills slightly upward at this point but we already felt the next big hill menacing nearby. And this one struck me really hard. It was a rather short but extremely steep (min 20%) ascend. Everyone had to walk there. I recovered well at the top of the hill and continued at my former pace.
We passed through the medieval city centre of Oerlinghausen where what seemed like the whole population has assembled to cheer us on. That was at ~19km and I still wasn't tired too much.
My ordeal and probably every runners ordeal started shortly after. The upcoming hill wasn't a single ascend but multiple very steep and short ramps with some downward slopes inbetween. I managed to run first ramp but had a cramp in my right calf at the second one. I recovered via walking and continued to run at a good pace at the flat parts. I had to walk the following ramps though and continued to have cramps in my calfs. The last 8k were a mix of running and walking. The running was surprisingly easy but the cramps forced me stop every few minutes which basically ruined my finishing time.
The last 3k were mostly downhill with a few short hills inbetween so I managed to run most of them. The crowd at the finish was great and put a smile on everyone's face.+ Show Spoiler [broken but happy (#2128)] +

I had the 31k in me but the hills broke me. My legs aren't strong enough I guess. If I run the race next year which I probably will I'll try to train more often and more efficiently in the hills.

On April 28 2014 22:08 Don_Julio wrote:


You have the speed to be way faster than 1:45, probably 1:40. If you have done enough long runs you should be fine.

On April 29 2014 06:48 WonnaPlay wrote:
After 8 years of practically zero sports (none, other than the occassional soccer with friends), I started running.
It's been about 2 weeks now and I'm wondering if I'm going too fast. I don't want to get any injuries and I feel that my previous experience with (reasonably) high level football is really helping me. I also quit smoking after 5 years fulltime smoking, so my tempo really was 0.
So far I've had these runs :

1st run - 4.01 KM - 28:32 - 11april
2nd - 4.54 KM - 30:02 - 13april
3rd - 5.82 KM - 34:03 - 16 april
4th - 6.50 KM - 38:56 - 19 april
5th - 4.93 KM - 26:36 - 21 april
6th - 7.07 KM - 39:25 (with 3x 0:20 top speed + 2:00 rest intervals after 5 KM) - 23 april
7th 7.25 KM - 47.25 (obstacles, climbing, stairs, offroad) - 25 april
8th (today) 10.00 KM - 57:20 - 28 april

Now my question is, am I pushing myself too much? After a few runs, i decided to run the 10km in Leiden, however now I train with 1 day inbetween (we had big big party in Holland for 26-27 april, I think I've walked atleast 15KM each day).
After every run I have alot of little pains, but its all just tired muscles..
For the past 3 runs, I already have a nasty feeling in my legs after 2 minutes of walking, however when I warm up it gets less and less, after that I just run on willpower.
So far no signs of any injury pain occurs, but I'm still a bit worried since I haven't trained for so long?

On April 29 2014 07:53 L_Master wrote:


Sounds like you had a (mostly) great race, and definitely enjoyed the experience! Pretty awesome to get those kind of crowds on a long course like that with cheering in many places, get a little taste of the elite feeling

The cramping may not have anything to do at all with fitness. It's commonly related to nutritional issues. I don't know how much running you did at race pace for longer distances, or how much practice you did with planned fluid and sugar/carb/gu intake you did...but that is absolutely something to consider for next time.

On April 29 2014 07:59 L_Master wrote:


My first question is how do these runs feel. Would you describe them as easy, or you would you say you feel like you have to work some to get through the runs at the pace you are?

I wouldn't say you are doing too much, but I think most people do a little better both from a fitness standpoint and an injury standpoint with an approach that favors frequency. I'd keep your runs in the 4-7km range, but work on increasing the frequency over the next month or so to where you are running 5 or 6 times per week. Then if you still want more, start talking on a little more "kilometerage" to the runs.

I don't know exactly what is meant by nasty feeling, but you don't describe it as injury pain, and since it goes away as you run I would say continue to run, BUT monitor it. If it starts to hurt significantly after runs, or starts becoming more painful during runs...call it a day and take a few days off to make sure you are in the clear.

On April 29 2014 22:12 WonnaPlay wrote:

The runs actually feel pretty awesome. If I would classify it in "easyness", the first few runs were incredibly hard.
With my smoking background and no sports at all, I felt I was dying in tiredness en muscles.

On April 29 2014 22:12 WonnaPlay wrote:
The hardest thing is to keep my pace "slow". I feel that I can achieve much higher speeds (I'm running far slower than I used to do back in the day) .

My gameday will be 18th of may, any tips or goals for training to this?
I probably won't have time to train more than now, which is 3-4 times a week.
My original target was 10km in <60 min, but now that I've already beaten this, what would be an reasonable goal? under 50min?

On April 30 2014 15:56 Bunn wrote:
Yay, managed to run 28 minutes in one go.

My 'lap' looks like this: flat-downhill-uphill-flat-uphill-flat-uphill.

Usually the second small hill kills me, but today I managed to overcome it. I read somewhere that running is a good way to gain more willpower, and luckily I remembered that and pushed myself to complete the run!

All is great, except that my GPS doesn't want to work, so I can only run for time.

Also, I'd like to know which should I do first: cooldown walk/run, or stretches?

On May 01 2014 10:18 N.geNuity wrote:
had a terrible month of april training wise (already posted a race result which was good). Basically, the past 3 weeks have been incredibly busy for me and, for excuses or whatever present, just haven't been going out for runs. Been dropping to like 3 runs a week and for pretty low mileage--mainly due to the fact that I'm running too fast of pace.

But, I'll hope to get an established routine going again!