EPTRunning Thread 2014 - Page 19
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Bonham
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LuckyFool
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L_Master
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On July 15 2014 07:52 Bonham wrote: Thanks for the suggestions. I'm intrigued by the duct tape option, but worried it would rip off the blister when I removed it. Does anyone have experience with this? Never was a problem for me personally. The sweat was always enough to weaken the adhesive to the point it was either about to fall off, or already had fallen off by runs end | ||
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mtmentat
United States142 Posts
On July 15 2014 07:52 Bonham wrote: Thanks for the suggestions. I'm intrigued by the duct tape option, but worried it would rip off the blister when I removed it. Does anyone have experience with this? No, if anything the main concern with duct tape is that it can separate from the skin it is applied to during longer or sweatier runs and then ball up and aggravate the sore area. Athletic tape generally has slightly better skin/sweat adhesive properties to keep it in place, and thus the 2-layers method I suggested previously. In most cases, one layer of either athletic tape or duct tape works fine. | ||
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mtmentat
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On July 15 2014 14:09 LuckyFool wrote: ok I'm addicted to Strava. I just plugged my GPS watch in for the first time and I've spent over an hour going through my last 161 runs that were saved on it...LOL Yeah... I know the feeling. One thing I would caution you on: trying to get CR's in unfamiliar running territory is a recipe for frustration and injury. Run your runs, find the courses, and then try for them. I had a huge problem with looking at my watch during longer/harder runs and getting discouraged (see Mt. Evans). If your watch has a feature where one of the screens is just the time of day, I would suggest setting it to this when recording (unless you love to know you have 2 extra miles left out of 12 when you thought you were almost done  ). | ||
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mtmentat
United States142 Posts
I just wanted to quickly share a run I went on yesterday. My regular meetings schedule at work got switched around (training a new employee) and this jarred me out of my regular weekly running routine. 'WHICH WAS A GOOD THING! Rocky Mountain Runners hosts a weekly Wednesday [early!] morning run, and since I wouldn't be able to do my normal Wednesday night run @ BRC, I said to myself "well, why not?" 2,700ft of gain over 3 miles might have been a deterrent, but I need to be training on this sort of thing by now anyway, for Pike's Peak. Long story short: getting up early sucked, driving to a run sucked, but running/vigorously hiking up Bear Peak through an inversion cloud layer with the very welcoming and nice people in the RMR group was more than worth it. The data is up on Strava, for those interested. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/10499471_668267059921208_6790232959538341439_o.jpg) I guess the main point of this post is to a) bask in the glory of early morning peak bagging, and b) encourage all of you to just go DO that run/join up with that group/say "well, why not?" New and wonderful runs await! | ||
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Don_Julio
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I hate morning runs. I either have to get up and go running immediately because there is only a 45 minute window before the urge to poop sets in (I force myself to do that once a week). Or I need at least 90 minutes after waking up to poop, drink and eat enough and there's simply not enough time to do that at weekdays and getting up at 6 o'clock at weekends is a big nono. | ||
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Z-BosoN
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Any good recommendations on how I can start a good training routine? Also, I've had ligament reconstruction surgeries on both knees (thanks basketball), and was wondering if there are bigger risks with knee problems in running shorter or longer distances Thanks! | ||
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Don_Julio
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Your knees might be a problem but you won't know until you try it. You want to get used to running slowly. Do not increase your weekly distance by more than 10%. Run at a pace that feels easy (aerobically); there is no need for fast workouts as you'll improve naturally by slowly increasing distance. Listen to your body and slow down and rest if your knees start complaining. If you think that running is something you want to do longterm you should consider going to a running speciality store and get yourself fitted. | ||
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Bonham
Canada655 Posts
On July 18 2014 16:41 Don_Julio wrote: I hate morning runs. I either have to get up and go running immediately because there is only a 45 minute window before the urge to poop sets in (I force myself to do that once a week). Or I need at least 90 minutes after waking up to poop, drink and eat enough and there's simply not enough time to do that at weekdays and getting up at 6 o'clock at weekends is a big nono. I love sleeping, but I love morning runs more. Naps were invented for a reason! Have you tried going for morning runs without eating? Unless you're going to bed hungry or running 30+k, I think you should be OK to cut that part out and eat after. My favorite morning run routine, which I only have time for on weekends, is to get up, do some core calisthenics, have a bit of coffee, use the washroom, and hit the trail. Takes about a half hour from getting out of bed to hitting the road. | ||
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L_Master
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Which means I need to cycle more. Alot more. I can't see 15 miles 3-4x per week making me prepared for that sort of ride. I'm going to try and still run 30-50 miles while building cycling up to like 200-250 miles a week, but that might be too much, don't know. The major downside is that it fucks with having a really nice 5k buildup in prime weather conditions for training. Might just try to keep working on raw speed, do a short buildup in Oct/Nov, then do one more round of good winter base for spring track shenanigans. Thoughts? Too bad Airblade isn't around much, he's dabble around in Tris and probably knows better than anyone how to actually diving the days/workouts to keep the running fitness up while focusing on cycling. | ||
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Don_Julio
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On July 20 2014 04:19 Bonham wrote: I love sleeping, but I love morning runs more. Naps were invented for a reason! Have you tried going for morning runs without eating? Unless you're going to bed hungry or running 30+k, I think you should be OK to cut that part out and eat after. My favorite morning run routine, which I only have time for on weekends, is to get up, do some core calisthenics, have a bit of coffee, use the washroom, and hit the trail. Takes about a half hour from getting out of bed to hitting the road. I don't eat before the single morning run I do and that's OK. If I take my time to drink coffee and poop I usually get hungry, too. It's fine to get hungry during a run but going for a run when you're already hungry? Nope. I'm probably just a little bit whiny. On July 21 2014 14:02 L_Master wrote: Trying to decide how to handle this. Been planning a 140M/220km ride with a couple friends from Foco to Monument. Probably going to do it in early September if everything works out. Which means I need to cycle more. Alot more. I can't see 15 miles 3-4x per week making me prepared for that sort of ride. I'm going to try and still run 30-50 miles while building cycling up to like 200-250 miles a week, but that might be too much, don't know. The major downside is that it fucks with having a really nice 5k buildup in prime weather conditions for training. Might just try to keep working on raw speed, do a short buildup in Oct/Nov, then do one more round of good winter base for spring track shenanigans. Thoughts? Too bad Airblade isn't around much, he's dabble around in Tris and probably knows better than anyone how to actually diving the days/workouts to keep the running fitness up while focusing on cycling. Are you guys going to race the 140M and are your friends as fit as you? I'd think you'd be fit enough to at least survive such a ride without much preparation. | ||
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Bonham
Canada655 Posts
On July 22 2014 06:47 Don_Julio wrote: It's fine to get hungry during a run but going for a run when you're already hungry? Nope. I'm probably just a little bit whiny. FWIW, I often find when I'm a bit hungry at the start of a run, it goes away during the run. Then you can have a great post-run snack when you finish stretching! I think the hunger disappearing is due to (a) drinking a bit of water and (b) blood supply getting shunted away from the stomach and to the lungs and legs. I encourage you to at least give it a try once or twice if you haven't already. On July 21 2014 14:02 L_Master wrote: Which means I need to cycle more. Alot more. I can't see 15 miles 3-4x per week making me prepared for that sort of ride. Thoughts? Too bad Airblade isn't around much, he's dabble around in Tris and probably knows better than anyone how to actually diving the days/workouts to keep the running fitness up while focusing on cycling. Beats me, man, but it's definitely something to be conscious of. I took a week off running a few years ago to bike around Belgium, and I definitely noticed some weakness in my lungs when I got back at it–even though I was spinning around 80k a day with a big heavy backpack on. Of course, all the beer I drank on brewery tours on that trip might have had something to do with it too.... | ||
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L_Master
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Are you guys going to race the 140M and are your friends as fit as you? I'd think you'd be fit enough to at least survive such a ride without much preparation. No, definitely not racing. I'm the fittest of my friends but they aren't total slouches. One, while not a fitness freak, is active and runs/rides casually probably 3-4 times a week and tons a good bit of hiking, rock climbing, etc. The other, while not as fast as me, still runs around 21:xx for 5k...but he put in 60-90 mpw so has a great base. I'm fit enough to survive the ride aerobically but there are two concerns on the bike. The first is the muscles used are different. The first time I went to ride about 10 months ago I did just 14 mph, and by the end was crawling at less than 10. My heart rate never got above 120. The power just wasn't there in the quads and they fatigued quickly. Granted the pace will be pretty modest and I've probably been riding enough for that not to be a huge issue...however that exacerbates #2 which is...my ass. I'm expecting this ride to take 10-15 hours depending on how much my friends struggle toward the end. That is a LONG time in the saddle. If you aren't riding alot your butt will become a festering mass of pain...honestly to the point where it might be hard to finish the ride. I was a little tender a few days ago after riding for just 2:40...and we are looking at a ride that could be 6 or 7 times longer. Conclusion: Need to cycle more if for no other reason than to condition my ass. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
Met up with two of my friends from the UCCS team to hang out and do some sprint work while they did a tempo. Not to notable...except for the fact that Ryder just rolled out a cool 21:00 4M tempo. On grass. Ran 4:01 at altitude and 15:30 at sea level last year...I'm now officially excited to see how he does this XC and track season! | ||
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Bonham
Canada655 Posts
4:01 at altitude is a level above 15:30, isn't it? I mean, I ran 16 flat on the road last year and I'd be shocked if I could get below 4:30 in the mile. | ||
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Bonham
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L_Master
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On July 23 2014 10:19 Bonham wrote: Oh, wait, unless you mean 4:01 for 1500? That would make more sense I guess. Yea 4:01 1500, iirc that's 3:54 converted. Still way better than 15:30, but I'd guess he was in 15 flat shape or slightly better as from what I remember he went out with the leaders in that race around 14:45 pace and struggled a bit. He's quick though, ran 51.2 in a relay split of 400 after running 1:57 earlier in the meet so his speed probably carries him a little. Given that tempo I could see times of sub 3:50 and sub 14:30 being a real possibility this season. | ||
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LuckyFool
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Bonham
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