EPTRunning Thread 2014 - Page 20
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
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LuckyFool
United States9016 Posts
went out a little quick, not under 80 though. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
Good starting benchmark though, it's not an easy race to solo especially in the penultimate and final lap it's really nice to have people to chase to keep ya gritting your teeth and working. If you're focus is on the mile over the next month or two I'm pretty confident you'll get it, especially with a few more time trials or ideally races to get a little better feel for it. I haven't followed exactly what you've been doing, but its hard to run a really good mile if you haven't been training at mile pace or faster. | ||
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Bunn
Estonia934 Posts
Also, fuck dogs. People should really learn to leash them on the streets. | ||
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Don_Julio
2220 Posts
On July 25 2014 20:04 Bunn wrote: Recently my runs have become less frequent and I can already feel it affecting me. My anxiety levels skyrocket and getting a good sleep just doesn't happen. Went for a good run today, feeling pumped. Although I didn't set any PRs, I already feel much better. I can't imagine how I could live without exercising for the past 10 years, no wonder that there wasn't an even a chance of me functioning normally. Also, fuck dogs. People should really learn to leash them on the streets. One of the many great things about running is that it can help with light and medium psychological struggles. Why have you run less frequent? On July 22 2014 08:15 Bonham wrote: FWIW, I often find when I'm a bit hungry at the start of a run, it goes away during the run. Then you can have a great post-run snack when you finish stretching! I think the hunger disappearing is due to (a) drinking a bit of water and (b) blood supply getting shunted away from the stomach and to the lungs and legs. I encourage you to at least give it a try once or twice if you haven't already. It worked! The first 20-25 minutes were awful and my stomach was telling me: "Stop running you lunatic. We already had coffee. You need food with your coffee. We always do that." It became better over time and I actually managed to run at a decent pace. | ||
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Bunn
Estonia934 Posts
One of the many great things about running is that it can help with light and medium psychological struggles. Why have you run less frequent? No reason in particular. I usually run in the morning, but recently some other things have come up during that time, so I somehow told myself in my head that I can't find time for a run. That of course isn't true, I just created a mental wall. Constant hot weather (30C and humid) probably helped creating it as well, because I don't really like running in that kind of weather. | ||
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Bonham
Canada655 Posts
On July 26 2014 06:03 Don_Julio wrote: It worked! The first 20-25 minutes were awful and my stomach was telling me: "Stop running you lunatic. We already had coffee. You need food with your coffee. We always do that." It became better over time and I actually managed to run at a decent pace. Whoo! Slowly, you can break you body of these habits. Except drinking coffee, of course. Stopping that would kill anyone. | ||
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Kronen
United States732 Posts
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On July 26 2014 21:27 Kronen wrote: Would you guys have suggestions for online NA-based shops that mold custom orthotics? I've been running (and walking around regularly) on some custom ones made at a Road Runner store, but would rather not make the 2-hour one-way trek to the store again. Sadly I'm no expert on this. I just use an over the counter orthotic for light arch support. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
Been riding like 15-25 miles each day and doing a run later on in the evening and feeling like death on each run at 7:40 pace. Go out today and ride 50+ miles at like 18+ mph on my MTB, go out for the evening run...and lo and behold I'm cruising fairly chill at low 7 pace through my super hilly neighborhood with energy to push the pace. | ||
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Bonham
Canada655 Posts
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On July 29 2014 08:14 Bonham wrote: I find my own improvement is similarly erratic and unpredictable. You slave away for weeks and weeks and never feel any stronger, sometimes feeling weaker, and then one day for no good reason you feel invincible. I guess it makes sense, what with us not being robots and all, but it never stops feeling weird. +1 This has been my experience as well, sometimes it feels like you gain 10/s mile spontaneously in a single day. | ||
micronesia
United States24805 Posts
I can relate to the quoted text, though. A lot of it is just scumbag brain messing with you, though. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On July 29 2014 08:22 micronesia wrote: "+1" posts are warnable dude. I can relate to the quoted text, though. A lot of it is just scumbag brain messing with you, though. True...but you didn't warn me XD. If you want I can happily change it to something along the lines of "this has been nearly my exact experience"! I guess I'll chalk surviving this one up to my posting history. Perhaps this is cocky, but I think I'd have to be among the best, except for the users who have truly contributed something outstanding to the website. | ||
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mtmentat
United States142 Posts
 Thanks again, L_Master, for setting up the thread and the Strava group! | ||
zatic
Zurich15366 Posts
Closing in on 2 years knee injury and there is more and more hope, yay! | ||
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mtmentat
United States142 Posts
On July 26 2014 13:46 Bunn wrote: No reason in particular. I usually run in the morning, but recently some other things have come up during that time, so I somehow told myself in my head that I can't find time for a run. That of course isn't true, I just created a mental wall. Constant hot weather (30C and humid) probably helped creating it as well, because I don't really like running in that kind of weather. Good luck moving sideways along these mental walls, finding gaps and low points that are easy to push through. I spent a good 1-2 years in graduate school with only spotty running, and was in a pretty bad place. I usually find myself getting pissed off at small things, more obsessive, and generally not as happy when I'm not running. Then, take a good cruiser long run, and I'm a Zen master. I don't know if I'm just addicted to the endorphins, now, or if running's just awesome but with a significant body of research promoting E.O.D. I think we can all agree that running has positive mental side effects in addition to being awesome. | ||
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mtmentat
United States142 Posts
On July 29 2014 23:42 zatic wrote: So happy. Finally managed to run more than a few minutes last night. Made it to 20 minutes even with four 60 second sprints in there. Closing in on 2 years knee injury and there is more and more hope, yay! Nice! Train smart, be careful about your choice of path (i.e. concrete vs dirt) and ENJOY! | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
I've tried making a habit out of running three times, without success. It's not that I don't like it, but I always prioritize something else and forget my previous goals. I decided that I need competition and maybe some support here, so I decided to sign up for my first 25km run ever, which happens in about two and a half months. I also decided to make this post and promise to make updates on my progress, also something I haven't done before - it always felt weird to me to post things about myself as if someone cared, but so many people do this and recommend it, I'll give it a try. I joined the TL runner's club on strava and am trying to upload my first run today there (servers down it seems). Very weak run, 4km in 22 min, but I guess I'll at least see some quick progress. My goal for now is to just finish the 25km run, hopefully I can do it if I train hard enough. After that I'll go for speed training and will see what my next goal will be. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
Also, fuck dogs. People should really learn to leash them on the streets. Amen, brotha, amen. Even if people know their dog is nice and friendly...I sure don't. When he jumps at me that could be either to say hi or to take a chunk out of my leg. On July 29 2014 23:42 zatic wrote: So happy. Finally managed to run more than a few minutes last night. Made it to 20 minutes even with four 60 second sprints in there. Closing in on 2 years knee injury and there is more and more hope, yay! As someone who can sympathize with being injured for several years...it really is a great feeling as you start to get back to being healthy. Really makes you appreciate what was missed  Glad to hear it sounds like you are on the road to recovery! On July 30 2014 10:03 Z-BosoN wrote: Very weak run, 4km in 22 min, but I guess I'll at least see some quick progress. My goal for now is to just finish the 25km run, hopefully I can do it if I train hard enough. After that I'll go for speed training and will see what my next goal will be. First off, nothing weak about 4k in 22 min. That's a good starting point even if you are lean...if you have plenty of weight to lose then you're in an excellent place, provided you lose the weight  (general experience for most people is they get about 1-2 s/km faster for every pound they lose, or 2-3 s/km for every kg of weight lost). I've tried making a habit out of running three times, without success. It's not that I don't like it, but I always prioritize something else and forget my previous goals. I decided that I need competition and maybe some support here, so I decided to sign up for my first 25km run ever, which happens in about two and a half months. Yea, if you really want to succeed it helps to make running the priority for a little while until it's habit. Within reason, treat it as priority #1 and schedule some of your day around your run. Once it's habit to run, it will be easier to avoid falling out of doing. I also decided to make this post and promise to make updates on my progress, also something I haven't done before - it always felt weird to me to post things about myself as if someone cared, but so many people do this and recommend it, I'll give it a try. Maybe I'm jut a nutter, but I legitimately do care. It's really fun and interesting for me seeing how people progress through training and helping coach them if desired. You're doing me a favor posting runs on strava and discussing yours and others training. I joined the TL runner's club on strava and am trying to upload my first run today there (servers down it seems). My goal for now is to just finish the 25km run, hopefully I can do it if I train hard enough. After that I'll go for speed training and will see what my next goal will be. Awesome! Make sure to follow the rest of us in the group, then you can see what everyone else is up to. Bonham especially is worth looking at. He trains pretty intelligently and with good focus. Not to mention he is the quickest guy here. Good approach, just realize right now the focus should not be too much on hard. Think smart enough. You've got 2.5 months...more than enough time to be prepared to complete 25k. I wouldn't get fancy with training quite yet. The focus right now should be on learning to run at an EASY pace (by easy I really mean easy, you should almost wonder if you are cheating yourself and not going hard enough to get in any sort of workout) and gradually building volume. Start with 4-5km on three or four days a week and progress over the next month to running 6 days a week. Then in month 2 we'll bump up the volume of these runs some, and throw in a couple of longer efforts to get some feel for the race and being on your legs for a while. One final note, after each run, do 6 pickups of about 15s at a near sprint pace. If all out sprint is a 100% these should be like 95-98% effort. Take 1-2 mins walking between each. These should not be hard from a breathing standpoint. If they are...take more walking time. These won't make you fitter, but they will help you develop your speed and good stride mechanics while running fast, as some newer runners get into the trap of just doing a bunch of slow runs and don't develop powerful, efficient running strides that work well at faster speeds. | ||
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