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autoexec
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States530 Posts
March 19 2014 22:46 GMT
#861
Haven't been on here in a while. School has been kicking my ass lately and I expect it to continue for the foreseeable future. Things have been going pretty well lifting-wise. I am stagnating around 185-190, but I am getting pretty cut, although that is coming from someone who has never been cut, so I may be exaggerating a bit. Gonna do progress pics in a month or so, hopefully will have a six pack for the first time by then
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
March 19 2014 23:59 GMT
#862
On March 19 2014 20:54 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 18:20 Arisen wrote:
On March 19 2014 17:42 IgnE wrote:
On March 19 2014 17:23 Arisen wrote:
Ok, so I took a break this winter from my diet/exercise regimen due to a very, very bad winter and a long commute to the gym. To be honest, I got a bit depressed. Now that it's warming up, I have been resumed my regimen. I had previously lost 50 lbs and put 10 lbs on this winter. I only have about 40 more pounds to go to get to my original goal.

One problem I'm having is going back on my protein regimen is seriously messing with my digestive system. I have had diarrhea and horrible gas/stomach pains for the last week. I have reduced my intake from what I was taking (2 scoops post workout) in half. It still hasn't been helping.

What are some things I can do that will help with digestive problems due to consuming protein powder?


Are you sure it's the protein powder? What are you taking? Are you drinking milk or something else? Unless you are extremely sensitive to whey and have a shitty whey product that shouldn't be happening.

@Toastie -- the sooner you accept that a gym membership is what you need the better


Well, besides exercising and eating a better diet, nothing has changed. My diet is much the same as it was last year, so I don't think it's that. I do not take it with milk, but I do drink milk, and have all my life. I'm not lactose intolerant. I remember having some problems last year when I started taking protein powder, but they disappeared relatively quickly. This time it's lasting longer than last time. I hope time will take away any problems, but I'd like to know how to reduce my symptoms if at all possible.

You could just try dropping the protein powder and see if that fixes things, then you'll know. Have you added any grains? I'm usually ok with most stuff but I've found oatmeal does exactly what you're describing personally.


No grains whatsoever. Getting most of my carbs through greens and a bit of yogurt/cottage cheese and the occasional sweet potato. This is all stuff I've been eating the last three months, though (just in addition to junk food on the regular).
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
March 20 2014 00:50 GMT
#863
On March 19 2014 16:18 zatic wrote:
Anyway let me know when you are in the area (south west Ger) then I can take you to the gym and we can laugh at one of the highest bro concentrations in the country.

Sweet sounds good. It'll probably be towards end of spring/beginning of summer that I'm in germany
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
March 20 2014 01:00 GMT
#864
On March 20 2014 07:41 G3CKO wrote:
Starter routines and other info

**It's actually impossible to lose fat and gain muscle at the same time! There is one exception to this is and that is for total beginners, called nooby gains, where it is possible to lose fat and gain muscle at the same time for a certain period (how long depends on the person)**

**If you suffer from injuries, please please please consult your doctor if you are able to go on a weight training program**

Once you get past nooby gains, you must focus on either building muscle (bulk) or cutting fat (cut). Typically when you bulk, a bit of fat sneaks on as well, which is unavoidable. The other way around is true too! When you cut, a bit of muscle typically goes down with the fat as well. However protein mostly helps reduce the fat gain, or muscle loss in both cases.



Anyone feel like taking a swing at G3CKO?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
March 20 2014 02:19 GMT
#865
On March 20 2014 10:00 Jerubaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 07:41 G3CKO wrote:
Starter routines and other info

**It's actually impossible to lose fat and gain muscle at the same time! There is one exception to this is and that is for total beginners, called nooby gains, where it is possible to lose fat and gain muscle at the same time for a certain period (how long depends on the person)**

**If you suffer from injuries, please please please consult your doctor if you are able to go on a weight training program**

Once you get past nooby gains, you must focus on either building muscle (bulk) or cutting fat (cut). Typically when you bulk, a bit of fat sneaks on as well, which is unavoidable. The other way around is true too! When you cut, a bit of muscle typically goes down with the fat as well. However protein mostly helps reduce the fat gain, or muscle loss in both cases.



Anyone feel like taking a swing at G3CKO?

Sure!

Bulk and cut cycles are muscle mag broscience, completely unnecessary if you diet properly and exercise properly. Assuming your goal is to gain muscle, you said this: " Typically when you bulk, a bit of fat sneaks on as well, which is unavoidable. " However, it IS avoidable! The reason any fat sneaks in is because you're overeating. Your caloric intake is beyond that which your body needs to gain muscle at the level you're training at, so you put on fat. That's what fat is: stored excess calories. When you do a "cut", you eat at or below maintenance level (the level needed to maintain your weight) and exercise as well, to burn fat. However, once you've reached the fat level you're happy with, you don't need to keep cutting. You can start to eat at slightly above maintenance level (perhaps only 100-200 calories over per day) and work hard at the gym. You won't put on any fat, and you will put on muscle and strength. Not only that, but you'll look great all year round, instead of just during the end of your cut!
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
March 20 2014 02:38 GMT
#866
Practically impossible not to gain fat while gaining muscle, because the typical pathways for nutrient shuttling to muscles are also used (to a lesser degree when lifting) by fat cells. It's not impossible, but it's nearly so for practical purposes. The takeaway is that you add more muscle than fat, and can always cut fat without losing much muscle.

Unless you are interested in steroids. Then you can cut fat while adding muscle no problem.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-20 03:35:00
March 20 2014 03:33 GMT
#867
It seems like a better formulation would be that you will carry a certain amount of fat while making gainz (sorry) rather than a comparative you will get fatter. Obviously overweight people can lose fat and gain muscle and we don't need to invoke some imaginary concept called noob gains.

We don't need to muddy the waters any more for the people that blog was aimed at or give them the idea that a healthy lifestyle requires cycling like that.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
lOstHeaven
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada212 Posts
March 20 2014 04:04 GMT
#868
I'm very dissapointed in myself. I've been having the fuckarounditis this past couple weeks. Been doing the main lift of SS but at a much much lighter weight to have it easy going. The left groin is very sensible right now; when i squat parallel it becomes very sensible....what to do?
Lost in Heaven
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-20 04:14:26
March 20 2014 04:05 GMT
#869
If only all of us had as sensible a groin as you. Do you have a pre existing injury?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
lOstHeaven
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada212 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-20 04:46:06
March 20 2014 04:19 GMT
#870
No pre existing injury regarding my groin, its not like hurting or anything but just sensible when I try to go at/below parallel when squatting. I just think I should give it a break for a week. I don't know, that tissue connecting my pelvis and thigh just feels so weird. I guess I should work on my mobility.
Lost in Heaven
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
March 20 2014 04:48 GMT
#871
I think sensitive is the word you're looking for. A sensible groin is... an odd statement to make.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-20 05:03:11
March 20 2014 05:01 GMT
#872
On March 20 2014 13:19 lOstHeaven wrote:
No pre existing injury regarding my groin, its not like hurting or anything but just sensible when I try to go at/below parallel when squatting. I just think I should give it a break for a week. I don't know, that tissue connecting my pelvis and thigh just feels so weird. I guess I should work on my mobility.


I do not understand what a sensible groin is (lol), but taking a week off is never the answer to mild pain

Today I C&J 92.5kg (PR), need to work on my clean now, I think I can jerk more.
Will practice snatches tomorrow, I refuse to be the only person on earth with a 200kg BS that can't snatch 50.
Thaniri
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1264 Posts
March 20 2014 07:17 GMT
#873
Age: 18 || Height: 1.85m || Weight: 79.4kg
Starting Date: 14/01/01 || Goal Date: 15/01/01
Weight goals -- Don't really know or care.
Training goals --
Squat 120kg 5x5
Deadlift 180kg 1x5
OHP 80kg 5x5
Bench Press 100kg 5x5
Train 30 mins HIIT a day. I'm so lazy with cardio.
1 muscle up.

Nutrition goals -- 200g protein, 3,000+ calories a day. As a perpetual skinny kid I find it difficult to eat this much. Every day I force feed myself to almost vomitting at breakfast with 900 calories in eggs alone, with vegetables, milk, yogurt, bacon on top of that. My weight has steadily gone up since adopting this practice, and unfortunately my face has gotten a bit fatter but sacrifices have to be made.
Sleep goals -- 9 hours a day.
Misc/stress goals -- I can't see weight lifting being anything other than a contributor to my stress level. I have a tendency to overwork myself. Just recently I had a job as a postal courier working 12 hours a day, on top of which I worked out for about 1.5 hours a day, and then studied for as many hours as I could before passing out. With commute time factored in I was slowly killing myself through exhaustion. After about 2 months at the job I quit because I ended up being like Day[9] in his story about how he almost died. The problem is that when I truly set myself to doing something, I do it or die trying.
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-20 10:20:49
March 20 2014 09:49 GMT
#874
30 mins of actual HIIT day is fucking suicide. Just lift more often if you want to spend more time working out. I also suggest limiting you working days a little lol, it's better in the long run. I saw my best gains doing 1 hour workouts 5-6 times a week. Not sure if you're shooting for strength or aesthetics.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 20 2014 09:53 GMT
#875
On March 20 2014 13:48 Najda wrote:
I think sensitive is the word you're looking for. A sensible groin is... an odd statement to make.

it's a french thing. sensitive = sensible.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
March 20 2014 10:10 GMT
#876
When he squats ATG his groin has both feet on the ground.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
lOstHeaven
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada212 Posts
March 20 2014 12:01 GMT
#877
On March 20 2014 18:53 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 13:48 Najda wrote:
I think sensitive is the word you're looking for. A sensible groin is... an odd statement to make.

it's a french thing. sensitive = sensible.


Ooops! yes i meant sensible. I'll go see the doctor and pray for a minor strain.
Lost in Heaven
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 20 2014 12:11 GMT
#878
On March 20 2014 21:01 lOstHeaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 18:53 marvellosity wrote:
On March 20 2014 13:48 Najda wrote:
I think sensitive is the word you're looking for. A sensible groin is... an odd statement to make.

it's a french thing. sensitive = sensible.


Ooops! yes i meant sensible. I'll go see the doctor and pray for a minor strain.

no, you meant sensitive and you said sensible, but it's ok, we get it :p

gl at doctor
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
lOstHeaven
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada212 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-20 13:26:51
March 20 2014 13:26 GMT
#879
Sigh. Any recommendation for an alternative on the squat? I've been so unlucky so far with lifting and these little injuries....lifting is fun but if this goes on, am going to rethink about lifting as heavy as the tl veterans lifters.
Lost in Heaven
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-20 13:57:20
March 20 2014 13:56 GMT
#880
@IOSTHeaven Just do heavy deads and light squats with isolation work for legs untill you fix your pain.

@Birdie, bulking and cutting is not broscience at all. Doing a 200kcal surplus takes fucking forever in my experience, and the experiences of many people before me. If you're a natural lifter worried about fat gain I recommend a 6 week +300-500kcal bulk and then 1-2 weeks of 500-700kcal cut. I made the best gains this way (I gained 30kg in 2 1/2 years and stayed pretty lean during). Furthermore I recommend not speaking in absolutes and/or giving sources when you give advice, at the very least untill you're either bigger or stronger.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
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