EPT2013 - 2014 Football Thread - Page 702
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RvB
Netherlands6274 Posts
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Akka
France291 Posts
I'm pretty sure a 3rd year software engineer student given a Kinect can do a decent job of a goal line tech thing... | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
On March 25 2014 05:17 RvB wrote: It's still a bullshit excuse, they could've just make it a requirement for the Bundesliga and let the clubs in the 2nd bundesliga and lower decide on it for themselves. "The football experience has to be the same throughout all the different leagues". (Not that I have ever encountered a line ref....). Yes, it's bad & bullshit. I honestly want them to publicize the voting results - so I can laugh at the people who complain & cry in the front of the cameras after a "phantom goal" when their club voted against the goal tech. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18636 Posts
On March 25 2014 05:47 Zocat wrote: "The football experience has to be the same throughout all the different leagues". (Not that I have ever encountered a line ref....). Yes, it's bad & bullshit. I honestly want them to publicize the voting results - so I can laugh at the people who complain & cry in the front of the cameras after a "phantom goal" when their club voted against the goal tech. Yeah, I want the voting results as well. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On March 25 2014 01:26 sharkie wrote: Oh yeah? I must have missed all the posts praising Heynkes do anything last year in here. Almost everyone was a doubter before he crushed Barcelona. Guardiola hasn't done anything like it and already is preached best coach of the century by you Heynkes got plenty of praise, The problem is detractors like yourself would make it about Guardiola coming and possibly ruining a perfectly good team. And I cant be bothered to dig but everyone was weary of Bayern even before they played Barca. | ||
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Micro_Jackson
Germany2002 Posts
Don´t know exacly who voted what but: 1. league: 9 yes to 9 no 2. league: 3 yes to 15 no As usual it is a bit more complicated than "they are stupid old man". And that goes over the PR shit. First 200K to 400K might not seem much in a are of Bales and Ronaldos but for german clubs comming up into the second and even the third it is quite a lot of money. This is not the PL were the least rich guys spend more money ont transfers in a year than the bottom 10 clubs in germany together. (I made this up a bit but for scale: Mainz 05, currently 7th place in Bundesliga made a transfer this winter that set records for the club. It was around 5 million €). Also most clubs especially in the second league dont own their stadiums which means it comes the question "who pays that". Often the stadium is owned by a company which is owned in parts by different people like the club, fan organisations or the citys in which it stands. These shareholders care about the sport but they care even more about half amillion spend on something that doesn´t bring money and is useful in 1 of 100 games. This is more about "who pays it" than "it is not traditional blabla...". What everyone loves about german football, the independance of the clubs, is bad this time. | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
On March 25 2014 06:26 Micro_Jackson wrote: Don´t know exacly who voted what but: 1. league: 9 yes to 9 no 2. league: 3 yes to 15 no As usual it is a bit more complicated than "they are stupid old man". And that goes over the PR shit. First 200K to 400K might not seem much in a are of Bales and Ronaldos but for german clubs comming up into the second and even the third it is quite a lot of money. This is not the PL were the least rich guys spend more money ont transfers in a year than the bottom 10 clubs in germany together. (I made this up a bit but for scale: Mainz 05, currently 7th place in Bundesliga made a transfer this winter that set records for the club. It was around 5 million €). Also most clubs especially in the second league dont own their stadiums which means it comes the question "who pays that". Often the stadium is owned by a company which is owned in parts by different people like the club, fan organisations or the citys in which it stands. These shareholders care about the sport but they care even more about half amillion spend on something that doesn´t bring money and is useful in 1 of 100 games. This is more about "who pays it" than "it is not traditional blabla...". What everyone loves about german football, the independance of the clubs, is bad this time. 60 stadiums in the first three leagues. 400k per stadium 24 million euros. the dfb has that kind of money | ||
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LogaiN
Sweden1073 Posts
First thing. Season before he took over, Barcelona (came 3rd) ended up 10 points behind Villareal in the league. Guardiola proceeded to sell two of Barcelonas biggest stars. Ronaldinho and Deco (and next season Etoo as well). He moved Busquets, Pedro and Pique to the A-team. Remember this was a long time ago. Then, he managed the players to work really hard. The "gegenpressen" (preassure of the ball holder) was really impressive the next seasons. As a tactical coach in game - I'm not that impressed, but he isn't bad either. However he did have a good eye for building up a team - and also believing in what he did. So - overall he did a huge job and people not giving him credit for that just don't know much. His work at Bayern is harder to judge IMO. What we can say is that it's been fine so far, and that he really employs his own philosophy of the game. Playing Lahm as a midfielder half of the season, that's a pretty bald move. | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
On March 25 2014 06:26 Micro_Jackson wrote: What everyone loves about german football, the independance of the clubs, is bad this time. People only say that when their club doesn't have problems and/or has a secret fan (sponsor). Hoffenheim, Leipzig, Wolfsburg, Leverkusen, .... In recent times also 1860 & Hertha with their investors. As you mentioned the cities owning stadiums (Kaiserslautern, ...). Ask an MSV Duisburg fan if he would have preferred a "sponsor" or the forced relegation to the 3. Liga. Or ask an Aachen fan (Regionalliga). 2. Bundesliga is a ticking time bomb for almost every "traditional" club. It's just a matter of time until it blows up. I would gladly give up the independence so that my club is able to play EL. Hell, even average Bundesliga with no fear of relegation would be fine. But no, I have to fear every season that my club is doing shit in the sport/economic department which might kill it with a bit of bad luck. And yes, we have more fans than Hoffenheim, Wolfsburg & Leverkusen. But that is worth shit. Independence is worth shit. Money is everything. (sry for the rant^^) | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Also someone leaked the Canadia Proposal for the 2026 Worl Cup bid: http://imgur.com/a/5ZfCR Also: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ZGh2FgS.jpg) | ||
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Micro_Jackson
Germany2002 Posts
On March 25 2014 07:27 Zocat wrote: People only say that when their club doesn't have problems and/or has a secret fan (sponsor). Hoffenheim, Leipzig, Wolfsburg, Leverkusen, .... In recent times also 1860 & Hertha with their investors. As you mentioned the cities owning stadiums (Kaiserslautern, ...). Ask an MSV Duisburg fan if he would have preferred a "sponsor" or the forced relegation to the 3. Liga. Or ask an Aachen fan (Regionalliga). 2. Bundesliga is a ticking time bomb for almost every "traditional" club. It's just a matter of time until it blows up. I would gladly give up the independence so that my club is able to play EL. Hell, even average Bundesliga with no fear of relegation would be fine. But no, I have to fear every season that my club is doing shit in the sport/economic department which might kill it with a bit of bad luck. And yes, we have more fans than Hoffenheim, Wolfsburg & Leverkusen. But that is worth shit. Independence is worth shit. Money is everything. (sry for the rant^^) The problem is that the fans do everything to prevent big, single sponsors, Hoffenheim is hated all over the place, Bayern for spending their money, Red Bull Leipzig even worse than Hoffenheim. And you mentioned Duesburg but 1860 Munich is a other example were most of the "real" fans actually wanted the club to go bankrupted and reset in the 5th league because they dont care about the league and success. Dortmund on the other hand made 50 million + last year and still market itself as the "we are so poor and still god underdog". Its just german mentality that showing off is considered to be a bad thing. | ||
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warding
Portugal2395 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On March 24 2014 22:09 Pandemona wrote: Neil Warnock turned down the job, Gianfranco Zola now favorite to take the job Source | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
On March 25 2014 19:49 warding wrote: Really? Showing off is frowned upon in the land of Porsche, BMW, Mercedes, Audi and Bugatti? REALLY? :D bugatti?? well anyway, for a huge part of the society, yes, it is. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On March 25 2014 20:25 Kleinmuuhg wrote: bugatti?? well anyway, for a huge part of the society, yes, it is. He is kind of right, Volkswagen were the main company that funded Bugatti no? | ||
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malcram
2752 Posts
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
On March 25 2014 20:58 Pandemona wrote: He is kind of right, Volkswagen were the main company that funded Bugatti no? Yes Bugatti belongs to Volkswagen but nobody here would ever think of Germany as the home of Bentley, Bugatti or Lamborghini. We don't show off that much : P Even škoda would be debatable as I guess most perceive it as a czech brand. | ||
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BeaTeR
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
On March 25 2014 21:05 malcram wrote: Tonight, I am a Man Utd fan. Glory glory Man United. tsktsk... lol same here manU FIGHTING! | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On March 25 2014 21:07 smr wrote: Yes Bugatti belongs to Volkswagen but nobody here would ever think of Germany as the home of Bentley, Bugatti or Lamborghini. We don't show off that much : P Even škoda would be debatable as I guess most perceive it as a czech brand. Haha fair enough, it is a nice list of car names though. BMW Merdcede Porsche and Audi alone let alone without Bugatti. xD I love my Audi <3 my dad loves his too. GERMANY FIGHTING Plus Adidas > Nike ;o On March 25 2014 21:05 malcram wrote: Tonight, I am a Man Utd fan. Glory glory Man United. tsktsk... Yeah lets all get on the Yanited bandwaggon people Man Utd vs Man City - Kick Off | ||
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