EPT2013 - 2014 Football Thread - Page 10
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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dmnum
Brazil6910 Posts
Silva, on the other hand, is stable. Also, he has been one of best, if the best CB in the world for a while. Considering how much money is thrown around nowadays in football, I believe 32m is a little lower than what he's worth. | ||
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Mensol
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i believe he is one of the main reasons for psgs success. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On July 03 2013 21:31 Sated wrote: You're only abiding by it having already profited from the exact brand of bullshit it seeks to prevent. Hypocritical to the max. Nooo. While i agree we did "abuse it" we abused it when we knew we can. As soon as the FFP regulations were drawn up back in 2008 or 2009 and citing the the changes to rules. We begin expanding our brand. Abramovich has put alot into the club of course, but it wasn't all Transfers, it was giving us one of the best training facilities in world football, along with one of the best platforms to educate a youth academy. We have spent all that, and still with the wages we have, and all the other outgoings we made 1.4million net profit at the end of 2012. Yes that is still after the structure has been put in place, but there isn't many teams with + profits in the world after all the outgoings. That is because we got money put into our club, but it also was due the way it was done. It wasn't just signing the best players straight away like Monaco and PSG have done or Man City. We got into the champions league, then got taken over and still we didn't buy the best out there for stupid fee's we bought well. Got a great squad together and moved on every year. Shevchenko 30million was our biggest signing until Torres which was crazy but still had the potential. We never spent €30-40-50million straight away from day 1 and thought we'll deal with the consequences afterwards. We put foundations in along with good players coming in for reasonable prices. Then now, when we have the revenue and the sponserships and the exposure we can make the big signings every summer and still abide by all the rules. | ||
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PixelNite
France1008 Posts
If you doubt him during Confederations Cup (he won it and was the captain btw) I recommend watching PSG vs Barcelona again. Paris is never going to sell Silva, this kind of player is essential and vital for the team. Thinking about it is already weird, 32million is a joke :p | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
hilarious website  | ||
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Fatta
Germany148 Posts
On July 03 2013 22:11 Pandemona wrote: Nooo. While i agree we did "abuse it" we abused it when we knew we can. As soon as the FFP regulations were drawn up back in 2008 or 2009 and citing the the changes to rules. We begin expanding our brand. Abramovich has put alot into the club of course, but it wasn't all Transfers, it was giving us one of the best training facilities in world football, along with one of the best platforms to educate a youth academy. We have spent all that, and still with the wages we have, and all the other outgoings we made 1.4million net profit at the end of 2012. Yes that is still after the structure has been put in place, but there isn't many teams with + profits in the world after all the outgoings. That is because we got money put into our club, but it also was due the way it was done. It wasn't just signing the best players straight away like Monaco and PSG have done or Man City. We got into the champions league, then got taken over and still we didn't buy the best out there for stupid fee's we bought well. Got a great squad together and moved on every year. Shevchenko 30million was our biggest signing until Torres which was crazy but still had the potential. We never spent €30-40-50million straight away from day 1 and thought we'll deal with the consequences afterwards. We put foundations in along with good players coming in for reasonable prices. Then now, when we have the revenue and the sponserships and the exposure we can make the big signings every summer and still abide by all the rules. I hate to break it to you but the the stuff about transfers seems a bit made up by you. Abramovich "bought" the club in 03. In the first year you made about 171 million € deficit from transfers, including players like Duff or Crespo for about 26 million each. Next year you had a transfer deficit of about 158 million, players you bought were e.g. Drogba for 37 and Carvalho for 30 million. Next year you bought Essien for 38 million, then the year after Sheva for about 46. So saying you did not buy expensive players when Abramovich started is not really the case. Abramovich put you on the map again, by spending huge amounts of his own money. He can do whatever he likes with the money, but claiming that he only invested in infrastructure and stuff is wrong. Since 03 you have a transfer deficit of round about 750 million euros, a club like Bayern in comparison has a deficit of about 320 million in the same period. | ||
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mavignon
France369 Posts
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mavignon
France369 Posts
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Mensol
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Also Spanish newspapers says that Atletico Madrid made £25million offer to Burak Yilmaz. this sounds legit since they sold Falcao. Yilmaz and Turan please :3 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/tottenham-transfer-news-burak-yilmaz-2006270 http://j1306.hizliresim.com/1b/h/p68k9.jpg | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Season 1: £120 Million Net spend, on 14 players - £8.5million a player Season 2: £92million Net spend, on 9players - £9million a player Season 3: £35.8million Net spend, on 5players - £7.16million a player Season 4: £26million Net spend, on 6players - £4.3million a player Goes to resonable amount after 2 seasons. But in terms of what we spent per player you can't really complain. Unlike like i said Monaco - City - PSG, who went mega straight away buying limited amount; Man City Season 1: £107.95million Net spend, on 10players - £10.7million a player Season 2: £101.5million Net spend, on 7players - £14.5million a player Season 3: £122.5million Net spend, on 7players - £17.5million a player PSG Season 1: €96.7million Net spend, on 13players - €7.43million a player Season 2: €143.5million Net spend, on 6players - €23.9million a player Monaco Season 1: 122.32million Net spend, on 5players - €24.4million a player (Note Monaco still going, as they have started splashing the cash this season) So as you can see Chelsea win lalala....In seriousness, Chelsea didn't go stupid stupid, they didn't spend "mega" money straight away, yes they spent alot as you can see but they didn't go stupid prices to blow people out of the water. PSG Monaco and City did. City famously took Robinho out of Chelsea's hands with a last minute bid that knocked ours out of the water, then the following summer did it AGAIN with Aguero ;_; | ||
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sharkie
Austria18713 Posts
On July 03 2013 23:42 Pandemona wrote: Your using the wrong Euro exchange rate or something because. Duff cost £17million. Carvalho £19.85million. Drogba £24million. Crespo £16million. Season 1: £120 Million Net spend, on 14 players - £8.5million a player Season 2: £92million Net spend, on 9players - £9million a player Season 3: £35.8million Net spend, on 5players - £7.16million a player Season 4: £26million Net spend, on 6players - £4.3million a player Goes to resonable amount after 2 seasons. But in terms of what we spent per player you can't really complain. Unlike like i said Monaco - City - PSG, who went mega straight away buying limited amount; Man City Season 1: £107.95million Net spend, on 10players - £10.7million a player Season 2: £101.5million Net spend, on 7players - £14.5million a player Season 3: £122.5million Net spend, on 7players - £17.5million a player PSG Season 1: €96.7million Net spend, on 13players - €7.43million a player Season 2: €143.5million Net spend, on 6players - €23.9million a player Monaco Season 1: 122.32million Net spend, on 5players - €24.4million a player (Note Monaco still going, as they have started splashing the cash this season) So as you can see Chelsea win lalala....In seriousness, Chelsea didn't go stupid stupid, they didn't spend "mega" money straight away, yes they spent alot as you can see but they didn't go stupid prices to blow people out of the water. PSG Monaco and City did. City famously took Robinho out of Chelsea's hands with a last minute bid that knocked ours out of the water, then the following summer did it AGAIN with Aguero ;_;players were cheaper back then... you cant just compare figures 1:1 lol thats ridicilous | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Point still valid to a certain extent....PSG Monaco and City blew people out of the water with there MEGA bids though. As i said, they blew Chelsea out of the water with bids xD | ||
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city42
1656 Posts
On July 03 2013 23:39 Mensol wrote: Tottenham willing to give £17million for Galatasaray's striker Burak Yilmaz. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/tottenham-transfer-news-burak-yilmaz-2006270 I can 100% guarantee you that will not happen. The Mirror is a dubious source at best (they reported Tottenham offering £7m for Gomez a couple weeks ago), and Levy would never pay £17m for him. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
They did it in the exact same manner like manC and monaco in the last years. Just try to remember what it was then, every huge player or new talent would rumored to go either to rm who were always a big spender or chelsea. I don't know why you are trying to sell yourself the opposite idea though. I'd be so happy if a rich dude bought olympiakos and started bringing world class players, I wouldn't donwplay it. @twisted that goal was sick Neymar has that brazilian flair, messi even though he's capable would not even attempt something like that, it's just not his style to shoot balls from down the middle line Hope neymar stay this way. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6303 Posts
On July 03 2013 22:11 Pandemona wrote: Nooo. While i agree we did "abuse it" we abused it when we knew we can. As soon as the FFP regulations were drawn up back in 2008 or 2009 and citing the the changes to rules. We begin expanding our brand. Abramovich has put alot into the club of course, but it wasn't all Transfers, it was giving us one of the best training facilities in world football, along with one of the best platforms to educate a youth academy. We have spent all that, and still with the wages we have, and all the other outgoings we made 1.4million net profit at the end of 2012. Yes that is still after the structure has been put in place, but there isn't many teams with + profits in the world after all the outgoings. That is because we got money put into our club, but it also was due the way it was done. It wasn't just signing the best players straight away like Monaco and PSG have done or Man City. We got into the champions league, then got taken over and still we didn't buy the best out there for stupid fee's we bought well. Got a great squad together and moved on every year. Shevchenko 30million was our biggest signing until Torres which was crazy but still had the potential. We never spent €30-40-50million straight away from day 1 and thought we'll deal with the consequences afterwards. We put foundations in along with good players coming in for reasonable prices. Then now, when we have the revenue and the sponserships and the exposure we can make the big signings every summer and still abide by all the rules. Please, that profit was only because of an exceptional CL run and one-off exceptional items. You can't be this blind to Chelsea man... They did the exact same thing City PSG and Monaco are doing the kbly difference is that Chelsea was the first and didn't have to deal with the incredibly inflated prices yet. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
Would really love to see a Bayern - Barcelona rematch this season  | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Man City PSG Monaco all just throwing money at players hoping they stay, those 3 clubs have all had there parent compnies of the owners be sponsers of shirts/stadium/other stuff to boost up there revenue to get in with FFP which they still will be found out with if UEFA stick to what they say. Chelsea haven't, everything we have coming IN as revenue is proper revenue like Man Utd/Real/Barca/Bayern. I didn't mean it to come across that Roman didn't spend big money, im just saying it wasn't stupid throwing money at shit like spending 35million on CBs and 35million on bench warmers etc. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
#bringTStobarca | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
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