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On July 04 2013 00:32 Ysellian wrote:
How has Messi's injury looked lately? I hope he's given a month off at the start of the campaign and rather use Messi when you really need him.
He scored twice and got 2 assists in the last national game with argentina like 10 days ago iirc.
He's fine thank god.
But Tito should force him to rest for some games during the season, let neymar play, he's young he can take it.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Messi not been doing much in the Summer so he should be ok, plus La Liga starts later than other domestic leagues. So i think he should be ready to go come game 1.
Players like Xavi Iniesta Alba and Busquets might need more of a rest though having played a long hard season then going into confeds cup and playing over there. Be interesting the effects it has. I know Chelsea players involved in that competition are only given a 2 weeks break before they start back for Pre Season (July 15th)
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On July 04 2013 00:29 Pandemona wrote:
I not down playing we spent money, im saying we doing go Monaco/PSG/Man City style. The biggest spending in the first 2 seasons of Roman was a £150million training complex. And its awesome, that helps keep the best players in good shape and nurture the youngsters.
Man City PSG Monaco all just throwing money at players hoping they stay, those 3 clubs have all had there parent compnies of the owners be sponsers of shirts/stadium/other stuff to boost up there revenue to get in with FFP which they still will be found out with if UEFA stick to what they say. Chelsea haven't, everything we have coming IN as revenue is proper revenue like Man Utd/Real/Barca/Bayern.
I didn't mean it to come across that Roman didn't spend big money, im just saying it wasn't stupid throwing money at shit like spending 35million on CBs and 35million on bench warmers etc.
What? You are not very well informed, because a lot of money at PSG is being spent right now on building a new training center. The president is taking care of long term developement. The Paris area is the largest in europe in term of population and they try to develop the network of clubs in the region to better detect talents. That's also why he's so keen to bring in Wenger because he is so long term minded and put much emphasis on youth development.
Monaco has had a world class youth academy for decades, nothing new here.
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Capello is a huge douche.
He told the police to move messi's brothers, neymar's father and mario yepes' sons from the bench.
Immediately when messi saw that he asked to be sub'd and left the stadium without even showering, lol.
What a dick this fabio. It's a game for the players to relax and the fans to watch some nice goals, why would you even do that. Nevermind that, at least don't ask from the police to move the poor people like they are criminals, rofl.
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btw
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Netherlands13554 Posts
On July 03 2013 23:42 Pandemona wrote:
Your using the wrong Euro exchange rate or something because. Duff cost £17million. Carvalho £19.85million. Drogba £24million. Crespo £16million.
Back then Pounds were worth more comparing to Euro's iirc. His numbers might very well be true. Also the fact that in 2003-2005 money was worth like 10-15% more than what it's worth now (when talking same numbers), I'd say Chelsea is no different than the big spenders currently.
And yeah, the profit of 1.4million can't be taken seriously. Extenuating circumstances and all.
Anyway..
anyone else feel like Cavani is hugely overrated and definitely not worth € 63m?
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In 2003-2004 Euro to Pound was somewhere between 1,45 to1,5 Euros for 1 pound which makes our numbers roughly equal, only depending on the actual daily value.
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On July 04 2013 00:53 Twisted wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 23:42 Pandemona wrote:
Your using the wrong Euro exchange rate or something because. Duff cost £17million. Carvalho £19.85million. Drogba £24million. Crespo £16million.
anyone else feel like Cavani is hugely overrated and definitely not worth € 63m?
I do. He's a very good striker but he is not "legendary" like someone described him in the Confed Cup thread.
We're talking about a team that reportedly paid €50m for Torres, though. By that standard Cavani is worth € 1billion.
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On July 04 2013 00:29 Pandemona wrote:
I not down playing we spent money, im saying we doing go Monaco/PSG/Man City style. The biggest spending in the first 2 seasons of Roman was a £150million training complex. And its awesome, that helps keep the best players in good shape and nurture the youngsters.
Man City PSG Monaco all just throwing money at players hoping they stay, those 3 clubs have all had there parent compnies of the owners be sponsers of shirts/stadium/other stuff to boost up there revenue to get in with FFP which they still will be found out with if UEFA stick to what they say. Chelsea haven't, everything we have coming IN as revenue is proper revenue like Man Utd/Real/Barca/Bayern.
I didn't mean it to come across that Roman didn't spend big money, im just saying it wasn't stupid throwing money at shit like spending 35million on CBs and 35million on bench warmers etc.
I see I guess that is true to an extent but didn't City also build a new training complex.
The way Abramovich dealt with the debt Chelsea had to him is also sketchy to say the least and still leaves Chelsea greatly exposed to the debt.
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Netherlands13554 Posts
For those interested, a football match honoring Mister Ajax Sjaak Swart's 75th birthday is starting now. Swart, Cruijff, Tahamata, van der Sar, Richard and Rob Witschge, Kluivert, Bryan Roy, Overmars, R. de Boer, Sneijder, vd Vaart among others are playing.
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Sjaak Swart is such a legend he deserves this.
edit: wow the stadium is fucking stacked lol.
Edit2: Swarts team is 1-0 behind =/.
edit3: 1-1
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
LFC have confirmed Jonjo Shelvey has completed a transfer to Swansea City.
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Netherlands13554 Posts
Was fun to watch  . Amazing how Swart's 75 years old and still played an hour of football. Also fun to see Cruyff playing, he still had some genius moments hah.
Obviously the team with van der Sar, van der Vaart and Sneijder was gonna win (Swart's team) as they're the fittest players being still active and such.
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Netherlands13554 Posts
On July 04 2013 01:05 dmnum wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 00:53 Twisted wrote:On July 03 2013 23:42 Pandemona wrote:
Your using the wrong Euro exchange rate or something because. Duff cost £17million. Carvalho £19.85million. Drogba £24million. Crespo £16million.
anyone else feel like Cavani is hugely overrated and definitely not worth € 63m? I do. He's a very good striker but he is not "legendary" like someone described him in the Confed Cup thread. We're talking about a team that reportedly paid €50m for Torres, though. By that standard Cavani is worth € 1billion.
Yeah that's what I'm thinking. He's a decent striker, has his moments but isn't Falcao/Ibrahimovic/van Persie good imo. Granted I haven't watched much of him, but everytime I do, he doesn't really impress me, like in the Conf Cup.
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Well I don't think RvP is a top class striker.
How you described cavani would fit more on rvp I think.
Oh well, opinions. xD
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goddam it korea just let us score : ( can't believe I miss the first 15 minutes of the match and colombia are down 1-0.
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RvP is a top striker for sure lol xD I haven't watched much of his games or Cavani's anyway. So I can't be sure if he is much better or not... but I kinda agree Cavani for 63 sounds too high. Time will tell.
Thiago Silva on the other hand I agree is worth like 37+ easy. Best CB in the world right now, plain better than David Luiz.
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On July 04 2013 00:29 Pandemona wrote:
I didn't mean it to come across that Roman didn't spend big money, im just saying it wasn't stupid throwing money at shit like spending 35million on CBs and 35million on bench warmers etc.
About 20 mill quid or so for Carvalho in the 2004 market is pretty darn close to spending 35 on a cb today mate! A cool 13 mill spent on classy Ferreira aswell this window. The Following year SWP enters to spend some time at the bench, even more expensive than Carvalho, and in 2005 this is still big big big money. Zhirkov at 18 mill is another expensive defender that spends most of his time elsewhere than the pitch. Luis cost north of 20 mill, he looks promising though!
Veron, Mutu, Crespo, Parker, Duff, Robben, Shevchenko, Pizzaro, Belletti, Deco, Quaresma, Torres, Benayoun, Meireles and Oscar are another few handfuls of players that have been bought at steep prices and/or have been paid wages way north of what you would expect in comparison to their contribution.
You are lucky to have a sugardaddy buying stars and glory to the club you love, but don't kid yourself and think its any different from City, Monaco and PSG. Enjoy winning!
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Reason they all hate Chelea and spout random shit as Roman talks to no one in the press xD
