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Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
February 28 2013 17:35 GMT
#781
I used to get that from wearing a unisuit all the time. Sweating in a lycra suit all the time gave me some kind of heat rash or something.
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 17:39:20
February 28 2013 17:38 GMT
#782
Also, a little over a year ago I was convinced I had bed bugs as both me and my girlfriend were itching loads. I ended up putting my mattress in the bath and washing it with boiling water lol, totally ruined the mattress. I wanted a new one anyway because it was shit so not a big deal.

But yeah, turned out it was just ringworm and clotrimazole cleared it up straight away. It's really easy to catch ringworm from playing rugby.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 17:50:40
February 28 2013 17:49 GMT
#783
On March 01 2013 02:35 Deadeight wrote:
I used to get that from wearing a unisuit all the time. Sweating in a lycra suit all the time gave me some kind of heat rash or something.


i get this too sometimes when im wearing too much clothes, its usually a kind of eczema that appears when you're sweating too much
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
February 28 2013 18:48 GMT
#784
dunno if this will help anyone, but im much more comfortable taking showers right before i go to bed, as opposed to many people who shower in the morning. i also wash my sheets and blankets maybe once every 2-3 weeks, and it lets me sleep really comfortably. i also almost never wear a shirt or underwear more than a day. i end up doing laundry more frequently than most others, but it cuts down on any irritations, itching, or whatever.
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
March 01 2013 20:53 GMT
#785
On March 01 2013 03:48 ieatkids5 wrote:
dunno if this will help anyone, but im much more comfortable taking showers right before i go to bed, as opposed to many people who shower in the morning. i also wash my sheets and blankets maybe once every 2-3 weeks, and it lets me sleep really comfortably. i also almost never wear a shirt or underwear more than a day. i end up doing laundry more frequently than most others, but it cuts down on any irritations, itching, or whatever.

hygiene 101?
i shower 3 times a day, change sheets every weekend, a shirt is always 1 day only, that's what most people do where I live(except the 3time a day showering)

my guess would be parasite or water, since your dog has it as well
oh, hai
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-02 00:59:23
March 02 2013 00:48 GMT
#786
Anyone have experience with high school/college level rowing? Primarily in the USA, but other countries apply too. My sister is looking at trying it this spring, but it would be a really late start for her, and she's been very committed to basketball up until this point. Got a couple questions.

edit:

on a completely unrelated note, even though WL isn't being streamed from the arnold, does anyone know if the strongman events might be?
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
March 02 2013 01:31 GMT
#787
On March 02 2013 05:53 HornyHerring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 03:48 ieatkids5 wrote:
dunno if this will help anyone, but im much more comfortable taking showers right before i go to bed, as opposed to many people who shower in the morning. i also wash my sheets and blankets maybe once every 2-3 weeks, and it lets me sleep really comfortably. i also almost never wear a shirt or underwear more than a day. i end up doing laundry more frequently than most others, but it cuts down on any irritations, itching, or whatever.

hygiene 101?
i shower 3 times a day, change sheets every weekend, a shirt is always 1 day only, that's what most people do where I live(except the 3time a day showering)

perhaps the people in papua new guinea are more cleanly than those in washington DC and the nearby areas haha
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20140 Posts
March 02 2013 02:34 GMT
#788
On March 02 2013 05:53 HornyHerring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 03:48 ieatkids5 wrote:
dunno if this will help anyone, but im much more comfortable taking showers right before i go to bed, as opposed to many people who shower in the morning. i also wash my sheets and blankets maybe once every 2-3 weeks, and it lets me sleep really comfortably. i also almost never wear a shirt or underwear more than a day. i end up doing laundry more frequently than most others, but it cuts down on any irritations, itching, or whatever.

hygiene 101?
i shower 3 times a day, change sheets every weekend, a shirt is always 1 day only, that's what most people do where I live(except the 3time a day showering)

my guess would be parasite or water, since your dog has it as well

Apparently the dog just has allergies. My gf went to the doctor and it's not scabies or anything the doctor could tell. Useless. Taking antihistamines helps though.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
March 02 2013 03:43 GMT
#789
On March 02 2013 09:48 phyre112 wrote:
Anyone have experience with high school/college level rowing? Primarily in the USA, but other countries apply too. My sister is looking at trying it this spring, but it would be a really late start for her, and she's been very committed to basketball up until this point. Got a couple questions.

edit:

on a completely unrelated note, even though WL isn't being streamed from the arnold, does anyone know if the strongman events might be?



I'm from the UK, but I've done a lot of rowing and went to GB trials. I only row over the summer now but if you have any questions that aren't country specific I can answer them.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-02 04:54:34
March 02 2013 04:38 GMT
#790
On March 02 2013 12:43 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 09:48 phyre112 wrote:
Anyone have experience with high school/college level rowing? Primarily in the USA, but other countries apply too. My sister is looking at trying it this spring, but it would be a really late start for her, and she's been very committed to basketball up until this point. Got a couple questions.

edit:

on a completely unrelated note, even though WL isn't being streamed from the arnold, does anyone know if the strongman events might be?



I'm from the UK, but I've done a lot of rowing and went to GB trials. I only row over the summer now but if you have any questions that aren't country specific I can answer them.


Basically, my sister is 6'3 and pretty skinny (runs in the family.) She's never done any strength training or any endurance sports in her life - just basketball and volleyball. The crew coach at her prep school has been bugging her to try out crew for months now, and yesterday she finally gave in and did it. Her first time ever touching an Erg, she rowed about 35 seconds behind the school record for 500m. Her second time, after the coach teaching her "how to pull" she rowed 20 seconds behind the school record. She tried a 2000m as well, and it went very well for her, but I don't know the exact times. She's barely behind the girls who've been doing this for years. The coach is excited about her, and thinks she has potential.

Questions:
1) How applicable is a 500m time to a "real" race?
2) How much do Erg times matter?
3) It's her Junior year - that's a that's a really late start, as most high school athletes are already looking at schools by now. Is her time completely unrealistic to drop and the coach is over reacting, or is it more like running where, for the first six months times go down like a lead balloon?
4) She's spent a ton of time contacting college basketball coaches already. How much interest is there at the university (D1) level for crew/does it give scholarships? (probably a US-based question).
5) How much time does college crew really take up? I've heard a few horror stories, and she plans to major in a hard science and go to medschool. That's going to be difficult on its own.
6) Any tips/anecdotes you might feel like sharing.

I've only ever met three or four rowers before, they were all walk-ons and only stuck to it for a short time, and most of them I wouldn't really consider friends. No one in my family has any idea about how crew works.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20140 Posts
March 02 2013 06:03 GMT
#791
My dad used to row crew at Syracuse back in the day! Don't think it was Varsity back then though
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
March 02 2013 10:36 GMT
#792
On March 02 2013 13:38 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 12:43 Deadeight wrote:
On March 02 2013 09:48 phyre112 wrote:
Anyone have experience with high school/college level rowing? Primarily in the USA, but other countries apply too. My sister is looking at trying it this spring, but it would be a really late start for her, and she's been very committed to basketball up until this point. Got a couple questions.

edit:

on a completely unrelated note, even though WL isn't being streamed from the arnold, does anyone know if the strongman events might be?



I'm from the UK, but I've done a lot of rowing and went to GB trials. I only row over the summer now but if you have any questions that aren't country specific I can answer them.


Basically, my sister is 6'3 and pretty skinny (runs in the family.) She's never done any strength training or any endurance sports in her life - just basketball and volleyball. The crew coach at her prep school has been bugging her to try out crew for months now, and yesterday she finally gave in and did it. Her first time ever touching an Erg, she rowed about 35 seconds behind the school record for 500m. Her second time, after the coach teaching her "how to pull" she rowed 20 seconds behind the school record. She tried a 2000m as well, and it went very well for her, but I don't know the exact times. She's barely behind the girls who've been doing this for years. The coach is excited about her, and thinks she has potential.

Questions:
1) How applicable is a 500m time to a "real" race?
2) How much do Erg times matter?
3) It's her Junior year - that's a that's a really late start, as most high school athletes are already looking at schools by now. Is her time completely unrealistic to drop and the coach is over reacting, or is it more like running where, for the first six months times go down like a lead balloon?
4) She's spent a ton of time contacting college basketball coaches already. How much interest is there at the university (D1) level for crew/does it give scholarships? (probably a US-based question).
5) How much time does college crew really take up? I've heard a few horror stories, and she plans to major in a hard science and go to medschool. That's going to be difficult on its own.
6) Any tips/anecdotes you might feel like sharing.

I've only ever met three or four rowers before, they were all walk-ons and only stuck to it for a short time, and most of them I wouldn't really consider friends. No one in my family has any idea about how crew works.




That's an amazing height for a female rower, for obvious reasons. She could do really well.


1) Very. In the UK at least we have two seasons, "Head" season and "Regatta" season. Head season runs across the winter from around November, and can basically be considered an off season; the races are 5k along one stretch of river, with boats going off every 30secs or so. Regatta season is the only one that matters, and they are consistently 1750-2000m head to head with boats at the same time next to each other. As long as your fitness isn't really bad 500m is representative of your 2k time.

I don't know if you have a head season or not, but important races will still be 2k. Sometimes for women they're a little shorter to keep the times similar.

However, note that she probably won't be doing 500m during training, unless it's like 8x500m with 30s rests or similar. Training on the erg will be more along the lines of 10km UT2 (UT2 basically means a stroke rate of 18 with a powerful stroke and slow recovery).

2) Difficult one. They tend to matter more than they should, because technique makes an enormous difference but it can be hard to gauge how much one individual effects the boat. So coaches will often rely on erg times when picking crews quite heavily.

They do matter a lot though in being good at rowing. Ergos mimic real rowing quite well.

3) I don't know what age junior year is, but when I joined Uni I was told some stat like 50% of the GB team started rowing when they went to Uni (i.e. age 18).

There are two types of rowing: sculling and sweep. I think in the US you may call sweep crew. Sculling basically you have two oars, sweep you have one. If you sweep, it's more about ergo times really and the technique is just easier, this means people can start very late and be very good, natural talent is normally the deciding factor for becoming great. At GB trials I pulled one of the quickest 2kms and did well on the leg press etc, but I failed in only one area; they measured height and I'm 6'2, which was just too short.

With sculling (two oars) on the other hand, technique is a lot more important and it's incredibly difficult to become great at this without having started early.

4) I can't really say about scholarships, but I'd be surprised if there weren't. There are a fair few US schools who will come over to the UK to race in regattas, most notably Henley Royal Regatta. If they're willing to come across possibly bringing an enormous boat with them then I'd assume it must be pretty well supported. These Unis tend to be Harvard, Yale etc.

5) I know a few people rowing at Uni who do medicine. They sometimes miss training.

You can definitely do difficult subjects and still row, but you do have to realise it will be quite time consuming. A lot comes down to your time management as well. On days when you don't go out on the water, you may have to spend 30-40m (or 1hr if she gets good and they put her on 16km, 3x6km ergs etc) in the gym on an erg. That can be 1hr out of your day or you can faff and it can take 2hrs.

Outings don't tend to take too long, the issue is some places mess around and you can find yourself pissing an extra hour away as they mess around getting the boat out and putting it back. That just depends on the coach and other people there.

6) Water is a big deal. If it's a deciding factor on where you apply for Uni, try and find out what their water is like. Some Unis have a bad river where there are waves all the time which means you won't be training on flat water, this just means you'll develop bad technique and will be slow when you race on flat water. Some train on tidal water which is definitely to be avoided, as training will be whenever there is high water and then you can find yourself getting up at ridiculous hours.

The technique is very difficult at the start which is why lots of people don't stick with it long, it becomes a lot more fun after you can get moving along fairly well though.

I have a few anecdotes but got to run, may post them later.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
March 02 2013 11:20 GMT
#793
Couple things to help out with the cultural translation there for you or anyone else who can respond;

1) I have an endurance sport background, and I figured the training wouldn't be 500m (unless it was repeats) - those are just the only times I know for her, so it's all I have to use in comparisons. I can ask her tomorrow and see exactly how well it turned out.

2) "Ergs mimic real rowing quite well" is the line I was looking for.

3) From what I can figure out, it looks like all rowing at the university level here is sweep (and it is called crew).

Junior year at most high school is the year before you go to university (17 years old). Because she is at a prep school (private boarding school designed specifically to send students to very high quality universities either for academics, sports or both) she has taken an extra year and was old for her class to start with - she is 18 now, will be 19 by the time she finishes prep school, and will turn 20 her first week at university. If she picks up crew now, she will have plenty of time to learn it, but no time to contact university coaches.

4) That sounds awesome.

5) she would be playing basketball anyway - which is at least a two, sometimes three hour commitment every day. The horror stories I mentioned were things like "waking up at 6 am for a two hour practice and then having 2 more hours on the erg at 6pm"

6) Thanks for the tip.
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
March 02 2013 13:21 GMT
#794
The 6am thing is true. You know the song "Working 9 to 5..."? Well, in rowing we have "Rowing 5 to 9". Outings are pretty consistently early morning before lectures.

Weights are neglected by many coaches, especially for women. This obviously isn't something I need to tell you about, but they make a massive difference in rowing because it's power endurance, each stroke is close to max effort. They also help a lot with avoiding imbalances, as you will typically only row one side where you're pulling around a pivot + Show Spoiler +
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Also I highly recommend her reading "Assault on Lake Casitas" by Brad Alan Lewis, in fact I'd recommend it to any athlete. It's a fairly short book by a US Olympic medalist, and it gives an accurate insight into the world of rowing (though that isn't the main focus of the book). It's a staple for rowers.
KOVU
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark708 Posts
March 04 2013 16:30 GMT
#795
Was deadlifting next to a deadlift gold medalist at junior IPF. Was pretty impressive to see a relatively small guy lift big weights with such ease. He is only a couple of weeks out from a meet and had to do some cardio with another toplevel powerlifter to help with his cutting.

Entire gym was like "WHAT ARE YOU DOING IDIOT" when they were on the elliptical. Was a pretty fun thing to see.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
March 04 2013 19:24 GMT
#796
Sickness and injuries have all but robbed me of my fall gains. That and blatant fucking negligence. I'm like that, periods of hard work culminating in a major setback that robs me of my fucks for weeks. They're back now, last night I got that long awaited burst of motivation, and it's the start of the glorious get-shit-done phase of the year. Still a bit injured but fuck you, body.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 04 2013 20:09 GMT
#797
Went to the doctor today. He said from an orthopaedic point of view my shoulder is completely fine. If I have further problems I need to see a neurologist. Well... I decided to work out then, because I don't have insane pain, it just feels funny. I will try to have a very good warm up especially for my shoulder and yeah, continue my routine.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
4thHatchery
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Finland125 Posts
March 04 2013 20:19 GMT
#798
On March 05 2013 04:24 Osmoses wrote:
Sickness and injuries have all but robbed me of my fall gains. That and blatant fucking negligence. I'm like that, periods of hard work culminating in a major setback that robs me of my fucks for weeks. They're back now, last night I got that long awaited burst of motivation, and it's the start of the glorious get-shit-done phase of the year. Still a bit injured but fuck you, body.

Haha. :D I also feel a little like that. I get to train for a month, then spend another month injured. Rinse and repeat. I'm just happy I haven't been sick in a while and most of my strength gains come back quickly. Luckily this time it's an injury I think I know how to deal with since it's pretty much the same as last time and I asked eshlow about it then. Maybe I'll learn to take rehab more seriously. :D
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
March 04 2013 20:24 GMT
#799
My sickness corresponded to the gym being closed for a while so it could be worse
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15361 Posts
March 04 2013 22:10 GMT
#800
On March 05 2013 04:24 Osmoses wrote:
Sickness and injuries have all but robbed me of my fall gains. That and blatant fucking negligence. I'm like that, periods of hard work culminating in a major setback that robs me of my fucks for weeks. They're back now, last night I got that long awaited burst of motivation, and it's the start of the glorious get-shit-done phase of the year. Still a bit injured but fuck you, body.

Hang in there. I am currently legitimately worried I will never do sports again. Or never walk straight again
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