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phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
December 05 2013 08:36 GMT
#3221
On December 05 2013 14:55 Najda wrote:
Dam +225 lb dip sounds crazy. I only just squatted that for the first time tonight, can't imagine doing it with just arms.


This is why Eshlow is our king.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20140 Posts
December 05 2013 14:12 GMT
#3222
What the fuck. That is insane.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20140 Posts
December 05 2013 14:13 GMT
#3223
On December 04 2013 23:13 AsnSensation wrote:
Man if you hit that 166kg Clean the little girl in the back would start to tell her friends that she saw superman Decaf!


She's not a bad lifter herself. She's like 9 and can snatch/cj around 25-35kg.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15361 Posts
December 05 2013 14:23 GMT
#3224
I am proud of my 40kg dip ...
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10103 Posts
December 05 2013 14:23 GMT
#3225
On December 05 2013 14:55 Najda wrote:
Dam +225 lb dip sounds crazy. I only just squatted that for the first time tonight, can't imagine doing it with just arms.

holy shit . is that even possible? GL!
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19192 Posts
December 05 2013 14:26 GMT
#3226
I can dip 225, but that's probably because I weigh 215.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
December 06 2013 02:24 GMT
#3227
lol wtf +225 dip
Official Entusman #21
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
December 06 2013 03:33 GMT
#3228
On December 05 2013 23:26 tofucake wrote:
I can dip 225, but that's probably because I weigh 215.


BW+225 brocake
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19192 Posts
December 06 2013 03:46 GMT
#3229
On December 06 2013 12:33 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 23:26 tofucake wrote:
I can dip 225, but that's probably because I weigh 215.


BW+225 brocake

no
225

also there is a guy at my gym I watched do 3x115 + chain (dunno how much the chain weighs). That was pretty sick
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
December 06 2013 04:01 GMT
#3230
On December 06 2013 12:46 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 12:33 IgnE wrote:
On December 05 2013 23:26 tofucake wrote:
I can dip 225, but that's probably because I weigh 215.


BW+225 brocake

no
225

also there is a guy at my gym I watched do 3x115 + chain (dunno how much the chain weighs). That was pretty sick


It's +225 as in +5 plates.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19192 Posts
December 06 2013 04:04 GMT
#3231
let me basque in my own glory in technically dipping 225
stop crushing my dreams with math
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
December 06 2013 04:26 GMT
#3232
On December 06 2013 13:04 tofucake wrote:
let me basque in my own glory in technically dipping 225
stop crushing my dreams with math


Hey it's still more than I can do
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
December 06 2013 07:59 GMT
#3233
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
December 06 2013 11:56 GMT
#3234
Damn, commenting here looks scary.

Anyhow, I never really took much care to be fit, I'm 50 kg, ~166 cm and would like to reach 60 (just to set a goal, I might be delusional here), but I'm at an absolute loss where and how to start, and how to pull it through. Also, what to eat, what not to eat, when to eat it, what to drink, what not to drink, etc.

I know I'm being pretty damn generic; I skimmed through the op, checked some links, but it's just too much information, ie a lot of them for ppl who wants to lose weight.

Yeah, so, I'm not sure how it works, so tell me if I should specify some things.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
December 06 2013 12:24 GMT
#3235
On December 06 2013 20:56 Volband wrote:
Damn, commenting here looks scary.

Anyhow, I never really took much care to be fit, I'm 50 kg, ~166 cm and would like to reach 60 (just to set a goal, I might be delusional here), but I'm at an absolute loss where and how to start, and how to pull it through. Also, what to eat, what not to eat, when to eat it, what to drink, what not to drink, etc.

I know I'm being pretty damn generic; I skimmed through the op, checked some links, but it's just too much information, ie a lot of them for ppl who wants to lose weight.

Yeah, so, I'm not sure how it works, so tell me if I should specify some things.


First of all, welcome! We are friendly here and love to help.

I would say almost regardless of your end goals, it will be smart for you to start with a simple program that focuses on building a foundation of strength before focusin your energies on any one thing too much. A good simple program to follow can be Starting Strength or Stronglifts (they are essentially the same with a few tweaks). I'd recommend following that for a few months until you have a good foundations and some more defined goals whether it's focusing on building size through bodybuilding, strength through powerlifting, or power through olympic lifting.

For what you eat, especially at your weight, it isn't as important as how much you eat. For a week or two I suggest counting your calories to get an idea of how much eat, but aim for a +3-500 surplus. Use a calorie calculator here for more precise numbers. Your goal for the calculator will likely be 'clean bulk' and the rest you can likely figure out.

I'd recommend Stronglifta just because the information is presented more compactly and will get you started quicker. That said you should still read starting strength if you get the chance.
http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-beginner-strength-training-program/
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=261928

Welcome again, never be afraid to ask more questions!
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-06 13:05:39
December 06 2013 13:03 GMT
#3236
If you just wanna get big and strong you'll do just fine stuffing yourself with burgers and pizzas and doing strength training, but if you don't want lovehandles to go with it you're gonna have to do a "clean" bulk, which unfortunately means way more work/more expensive -_-

The difference is essentially that a clean bulk cuts what's called "processed foods", such as pasta, bread etc, the kind of food that's easy to make and eat lots of and replaces it with basic stuff such as meat, rice and potatoes, in precise amounts in order to achieve what's called a caloric surplus. Google paleo for "clean" eating.

A caloric surplus is basically more food than you need to stay as you are. Being alive and going to work etc requires a certain amount of calories, if you work out you will need more just to remain in the same place, and if you wanna get bigger or smaller you add or subtract from that amount.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
December 06 2013 14:26 GMT
#3237
On December 06 2013 20:56 Volband wrote:
Damn, commenting here looks scary.

Anyhow, I never really took much care to be fit, I'm 50 kg, ~166 cm and would like to reach 60 (just to set a goal, I might be delusional here), but I'm at an absolute loss where and how to start, and how to pull it through. Also, what to eat, what not to eat, when to eat it, what to drink, what not to drink, etc.

I know I'm being pretty damn generic; I skimmed through the op, checked some links, but it's just too much information, ie a lot of them for ppl who wants to lose weight.

Yeah, so, I'm not sure how it works, so tell me if I should specify some things.


110 lbs is so tiny that I wouldn't listen to the well-intentioned advice of those who have suggested "clean bulking." You clearly don't eat very much on your own so you are going to need to be stuffing your face with any food you like including pizzas and burgers. The key is avoiding highly processed foods with trans fats and hydrogenated oils. You want to be eating "real" food but as long as its real you should eat wherever you want.

This assumes of course that you start training at the gym consistently on something like Starting Strength
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
December 06 2013 14:49 GMT
#3238
I disagree that he needs to immediately start stuffing his face. Yea he will gain a bunch of weight but likely a lot of it would be fat. When I started training I was 125lbs at 5'10" and my main dietary problem was just eating so inconsistantly. Just being roughly aware of my caloric intake and trying to keep it consistant was all it took to start gaining weight, although I plateaud after a while and had to conciously eat at a surplus. If he is like I was at that point, eating is more a chore than anything and stuffing your face is unpleasant, takes more work (esp of keeping it clean), and is hard to maintain.

That's not to say you are wrong, just that when I was that skinny, I constantly got told that advice and would try to do it with little to no success. It's all about finding what works for you.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-06 16:30:08
December 06 2013 16:27 GMT
#3239
On December 06 2013 23:49 Najda wrote:
I disagree that he needs to immediately start stuffing his face. Yea he will gain a bunch of weight but likely a lot of it would be fat. When I started training I was 125lbs at 5'10" and my main dietary problem was just eating so inconsistantly. Just being roughly aware of my caloric intake and trying to keep it consistant was all it took to start gaining weight, although I plateaud after a while and had to conciously eat at a surplus. If he is like I was at that point, eating is more a chore than anything and stuffing your face is unpleasant, takes more work (esp of keeping it clean), and is hard to maintain.

That's not to say you are wrong, just that when I was that skinny, I constantly got told that advice and would try to do it with little to no success. It's all about finding what works for you.


I'm not sure why you think he will gain fat. Your story seems to be that you didn't eat consistently enough to gain weight, not that you stuffed your face and got fat. Skinny dudes fear getting fat way too much. As long as you are skinny, training in the gym consistently, and getting 1+ g of protein per lb of bodyweight, it's really hard to get fat considering you had no appetite to begin with. I'm telling him to eat whatever he wants because I hate eating baked chicken breast and steamed broccoli 7+ times a week. And if I can't do it as a 235 lb man with a big appetite he won't be able to as a tiny guy with no appetite. He can't be afraid to get fat or he won't gain and will make senseless comments like "I'm a hardgainer."

If you aren't eating "consistenty" you aren't really stuffing your face are you?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
December 06 2013 16:33 GMT
#3240
Because you can only gain .5-1 pound of muscle a week you don't want to eat too large a surplus because the excess calories will be fat. It isn't healthy or helpful to suddenly start eating a 1000 calorie surplus unless you literally only care about strength.
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