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extr3me
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway145 Posts
July 10 2012 19:09 GMT
#5181
Can't stop won't stop


Yea perfect
Stay strong, forever strong!
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 19:18:17
July 10 2012 19:14 GMT
#5182
So last night I finally did squats and deadlifts again. I dropped all the way down to 200 for my working set on squats and I feel like I'll need to drop more b/c my form was so bad....................... only 245 on deadlift too :/

Hoping my strength will come back in leaps and bounds, but during my time off from lifting (back to lifting b/c doc finally gave me the OK) I didn't eat nearly as much and didn't have much strenuous activity. Very sad....

Had been up to 245squat/290dlift.

The problem I'm running into (never had this problem before and it only happened on the last rep of each set) is that my ass rises faster than my core and then I have to catch up by straining my lower back. Obviously this is bad, and I didn't even think about it when it happened the first set just thought it was a fluke, but I'm genuinely confused as to what's going on. Are my legs stronger than my core now and I have to work that back up? (My injury was to my lower back so I wouldn't be surprised... it's just really depressing)

If my core is the problem what are some auxiliaries I can add in to get back to where I was. I'm feelin' pretty blue. Bench working was at 175 when I left and pushing out 5 reps at 165 last night was one of the HARDEST things I've ever done. I literally stalled on my last rep for a good second before I somehow managed to push it up. Dropped to 155 and then 150 for the last two sets b/c my arms were like... trembling dead and couldn't even finish my final set of ASSISTED dips (10lbs) after that. So I'll drop to 160 or maybe 155.

Went to the gym today just to find out where my OHP and Power Cleans were and they had dropped from 125 to 115 and 170 to 150, respectively. Hella sad after such crazy near-linear progress up to where I was. I'm hoping all this is just my body going through the motions and I'll be able to go linear up to where I was.

This feels jumbled lol. All weights are in lbs, btw. Still WAY higher than what I started at, but setbacks are feelsbadman territory. Just for some reason didn't think I'd be set back so much T_T

Edit: My goals for the summer had changed to

280 squat, 325 dlift, 205 bench, 145 OHP, 195 PC (Maxes, not working sets) I'm still thinking I can get there with hard work and persistance, but I was soooooo clooooooseeeeeeee.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
July 10 2012 19:34 GMT
#5183
On July 11 2012 04:14 Risen wrote:
So last night I finally did squats and deadlifts again. I dropped all the way down to 200 for my working set on squats and I feel like I'll need to drop more b/c my form was so bad....................... only 245 on deadlift too :/

Hoping my strength will come back in leaps and bounds, but during my time off from lifting (back to lifting b/c doc finally gave me the OK) I didn't eat nearly as much and didn't have much strenuous activity. Very sad....

Had been up to 245squat/290dlift.

The problem I'm running into (never had this problem before and it only happened on the last rep of each set) is that my ass rises faster than my core and then I have to catch up by straining my lower back. Obviously this is bad, and I didn't even think about it when it happened the first set just thought it was a fluke, but I'm genuinely confused as to what's going on. Are my legs stronger than my core now and I have to work that back up? (My injury was to my lower back so I wouldn't be surprised... it's just really depressing)

If my core is the problem what are some auxiliaries I can add in to get back to where I was. I'm feelin' pretty blue. Bench working was at 175 when I left and pushing out 5 reps at 165 last night was one of the HARDEST things I've ever done. I literally stalled on my last rep for a good second before I somehow managed to push it up. Dropped to 155 and then 150 for the last two sets b/c my arms were like... trembling dead and couldn't even finish my final set of ASSISTED dips (10lbs) after that. So I'll drop to 160 or maybe 155.

Went to the gym today just to find out where my OHP and Power Cleans were and they had dropped from 125 to 115 and 170 to 150, respectively. Hella sad after such crazy near-linear progress up to where I was. I'm hoping all this is just my body going through the motions and I'll be able to go linear up to where I was.

This feels jumbled lol. All weights are in lbs, btw. Still WAY higher than what I started at, but setbacks are feelsbadman territory. Just for some reason didn't think I'd be set back so much T_T

Edit: My goals for the summer had changed to

280 squat, 325 dlift, 205 bench, 145 OHP, 195 PC (Maxes, not working sets) I'm still thinking I can get there with hard work and persistance, but I was soooooo clooooooseeeeeeee.


You can still make those goals by the end of the summer. The strength comes back fast if you eat enough once you start to require it of yourself again. You already have the cns adaptation. Your body knows how to move that weight, you just have to tell it to GO.

As far as that squat, keep better core tightness through the whole motion, try to keep your body mpre vertical, and break from the hips, not the knees. On the way up consciously bring the hips forward, dont just stand up, and always keep your weight on your heels. Youre letting things get shifted forward, which changes the mechanics of the squat. Its a very common problem once you start to approach something "heavy" in a beginning lifter.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 10 2012 19:40 GMT
#5184
On July 11 2012 04:34 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 04:14 Risen wrote:
So last night I finally did squats and deadlifts again. I dropped all the way down to 200 for my working set on squats and I feel like I'll need to drop more b/c my form was so bad....................... only 245 on deadlift too :/

Hoping my strength will come back in leaps and bounds, but during my time off from lifting (back to lifting b/c doc finally gave me the OK) I didn't eat nearly as much and didn't have much strenuous activity. Very sad....

Had been up to 245squat/290dlift.

The problem I'm running into (never had this problem before and it only happened on the last rep of each set) is that my ass rises faster than my core and then I have to catch up by straining my lower back. Obviously this is bad, and I didn't even think about it when it happened the first set just thought it was a fluke, but I'm genuinely confused as to what's going on. Are my legs stronger than my core now and I have to work that back up? (My injury was to my lower back so I wouldn't be surprised... it's just really depressing)

If my core is the problem what are some auxiliaries I can add in to get back to where I was. I'm feelin' pretty blue. Bench working was at 175 when I left and pushing out 5 reps at 165 last night was one of the HARDEST things I've ever done. I literally stalled on my last rep for a good second before I somehow managed to push it up. Dropped to 155 and then 150 for the last two sets b/c my arms were like... trembling dead and couldn't even finish my final set of ASSISTED dips (10lbs) after that. So I'll drop to 160 or maybe 155.

Went to the gym today just to find out where my OHP and Power Cleans were and they had dropped from 125 to 115 and 170 to 150, respectively. Hella sad after such crazy near-linear progress up to where I was. I'm hoping all this is just my body going through the motions and I'll be able to go linear up to where I was.

This feels jumbled lol. All weights are in lbs, btw. Still WAY higher than what I started at, but setbacks are feelsbadman territory. Just for some reason didn't think I'd be set back so much T_T

Edit: My goals for the summer had changed to

280 squat, 325 dlift, 205 bench, 145 OHP, 195 PC (Maxes, not working sets) I'm still thinking I can get there with hard work and persistance, but I was soooooo clooooooseeeeeeee.


You can still make those goals by the end of the summer. The strength comes back fast if you eat enough once you start to require it of yourself again. You already have the cns adaptation. Your body knows how to move that weight, you just have to tell it to GO.

As far as that squat, keep better core tightness through the whole motion, try to keep your body mpre vertical, and break from the hips, not the knees. On the way up consciously bring the hips forward, dont just stand up, and always keep your weight on your heels. Youre letting things get shifted forward, which changes the mechanics of the squat. Its a very common problem once you start to approach something "heavy" in a beginning lifter.


Oh man... I just looked for a video of what I was doing... I didn't realize how horrible it probably looked to anyone who could see me..........

+ Show Spoiler +


Open at your own risk O_0 At least it was only the last rep of each set but still... Holy shit... Thanks for the tips
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
July 10 2012 19:45 GMT
#5185
On July 11 2012 02:12 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 09:10 GoTuNk! wrote:
I think I will have to start wearing a belt, at least on monday/wednesday..


Man, I go belt on any weight above 75% max, I really advise that too (from personal experience, think I got it from a book or a youtube vid of the reputable kind)




I agree with this.

For quite a while I'd not been using a belt (I put on weight that the small belt at my gym no longer fit me, and the XL one is far too big). I ended up buying one and it's a lot better to be honest, it got rid of my soreness I had in my lower back and actually bettered my form. I had found it hard to tense my abs properly it turns out without a belt, I only realised as soon as I put a decent belt on. It gives you something to push against. Can also lift more.

With my lower back not being sore I'm not sure if it means I use my lower back less but I doubt it's much, but then I am convinced I give my abs a really good isometric workout since starting to use the belt now as well as they're always really tired now if I do some leg raises.

I also recommend a non-tapered belt, 4 inch all the way around is about right.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
July 10 2012 20:02 GMT
#5186
On July 10 2012 14:32 phyre112 wrote:
It's 1:30 am.

I just went outside and jumped rope for 20 minutes. Because fuck if I'm going to "start in the morning" - I know damn well I'm not going to wake up before I have to in the morning. I'm going to start NOW. And tomorrow I'm going to conitnue it, because I refuse to not be awesome.


LIKE A MOTHERFUCKING BOSS.

also,
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Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
July 10 2012 20:10 GMT
#5187
Lmao, that looks ridiculous what in the fuck...
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 10 2012 20:36 GMT
#5188
Holy shit wtf O_0
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
July 10 2012 20:42 GMT
#5189
Fucking awesome. 35 lbs gone, but went from 305 lb squat to hitting 225 once.

meh. Weak as fuck.

Yesmad.
Victory Loves Preparation
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
July 10 2012 20:43 GMT
#5190
CURLZ N BENCH YO

that's like the best bro photo, ahem, broto i've ever seen. i might have to show that photo to my friends to convince them to start squatting and deadlifting instead of having a chest day and a shoulder bicep day...



FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
July 10 2012 20:44 GMT
#5191
how long you been out?
heres how much i lost after taking a dumbbreak recently, if you're interested:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjIvzoW04fGQdFM0YXVXRXNGVmZpMmZpa0JYM2stYWc

bench press takes it real hard, the other lifts werent so bad tho
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
July 10 2012 20:48 GMT
#5192
On July 11 2012 05:42 Catch wrote:
Fucking awesome. 35 lbs gone, but went from 305 lb squat to hitting 225 once.

meh. Weak as fuck.

Yesmad.


wow, ouch :/
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
July 10 2012 21:37 GMT
#5193
I was dieting down for a total of 3 months. I took a two week break in between for some tendonitis [That I might still have].

The last 11 days I've done PSMF (I'll actually have a write up on it, so y'all can see how my journey went).

Went from 195+ to 160.2.

I've calmed down a bit and thought about it. First of all, I never actually did 305... It was only just what I plugged in for my max on 5/3/1. The most I actually attempted was 260. Second, maybe my form was shit. Third, now I can use this time to let me tendons actively heal as I work back up. And Fourth, I've kept around the same ratio it seems. So alas, not all is bad here in CatchLand. I also had really shitty sleep (less than 5 hours) and too many carbs, which were irresistible for a few hours since I had so little from PSMF.

Time to get strong as fuck [again], guys. TLHFALLINEED
Victory Loves Preparation
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
July 10 2012 21:59 GMT
#5194
On July 11 2012 06:37 Catch wrote:
I was dieting down for a total of 3 months. I took a two week break in between for some tendonitis [That I might still have].

The last 11 days I've done PSMF (I'll actually have a write up on it, so y'all can see how my journey went).

Went from 195+ to 160.2.

I've calmed down a bit and thought about it. First of all, I never actually did 305... It was only just what I plugged in for my max on 5/3/1. The most I actually attempted was 260. Second, maybe my form was shit. Third, now I can use this time to let me tendons actively heal as I work back up. And Fourth, I've kept around the same ratio it seems. So alas, not all is bad here in CatchLand. I also had really shitty sleep (less than 5 hours) and too many carbs, which were irresistible for a few hours since I had so little from PSMF.

Time to get strong as fuck [again], guys. TLHFALLINEED

Holy shit, you lost 15kgs in 3 months? No wonder you lost some strength, but to me it sounds worth it. You should be able to regain that strength pretty damn quickly, and with 15kgs less on your body, the aesthetic difference will be massive.
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shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
July 10 2012 22:00 GMT
#5195
On July 11 2012 06:37 Catch wrote:
I was dieting down for a total of 3 months. I took a two week break in between for some tendonitis [That I might still have].

The last 11 days I've done PSMF (I'll actually have a write up on it, so y'all can see how my journey went).

Went from 195+ to 160.2.

I've calmed down a bit and thought about it. First of all, I never actually did 305... It was only just what I plugged in for my max on 5/3/1. The most I actually attempted was 260. Second, maybe my form was shit. Third, now I can use this time to let me tendons actively heal as I work back up. And Fourth, I've kept around the same ratio it seems. So alas, not all is bad here in CatchLand. I also had really shitty sleep (less than 5 hours) and too many carbs, which were irresistible for a few hours since I had so little from PSMF.

Time to get strong as fuck [again], guys. TLHFALLINEED


so you went from 195 to 160 in 3 months?

Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
July 10 2012 22:14 GMT
#5196
On July 11 2012 06:59 Daigomi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 06:37 Catch wrote:
I was dieting down for a total of 3 months. I took a two week break in between for some tendonitis [That I might still have].

The last 11 days I've done PSMF (I'll actually have a write up on it, so y'all can see how my journey went).

Went from 195+ to 160.2.

I've calmed down a bit and thought about it. First of all, I never actually did 305... It was only just what I plugged in for my max on 5/3/1. The most I actually attempted was 260. Second, maybe my form was shit. Third, now I can use this time to let me tendons actively heal as I work back up. And Fourth, I've kept around the same ratio it seems. So alas, not all is bad here in CatchLand. I also had really shitty sleep (less than 5 hours) and too many carbs, which were irresistible for a few hours since I had so little from PSMF.

Time to get strong as fuck [again], guys. TLHFALLINEED

Holy shit, you lost 15kgs in 3 months? No wonder you lost some strength, but to me it sounds worth it. You should be able to regain that strength pretty damn quickly, and with 15kgs less on your body, the aesthetic difference will be massive.




I think he meant pounds, US people always use lbs for bodyweight I think.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4730 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 22:30:23
July 10 2012 22:29 GMT
#5197
On July 11 2012 05:02 funkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 14:32 phyre112 wrote:
It's 1:30 am.

I just went outside and jumped rope for 20 minutes. Because fuck if I'm going to "start in the morning" - I know damn well I'm not going to wake up before I have to in the morning. I'm going to start NOW. And tomorrow I'm going to conitnue it, because I refuse to not be awesome.


LIKE A MOTHERFUCKING BOSS.

also,+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


A couple of years back there was a guy in my gym who literally looked exactly like that. I had to be careful to not laugh him in the face everytime I saw him (though to be fair, I wasn't much better back then, never trained legs. Just that American Football and running took care of them).
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
July 10 2012 22:32 GMT
#5198
When I do shoulder dislocation stretches, should my shoulders actually pop, or is that an indication that something is wrong? I'm not flexible enough yet to go all the way back over my head and down behind my back. Sometimes the shoulder joint pops, sometimes not. I do feel a nice stretch in my pecs/shoulders when doing this.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 22:44:48
July 10 2012 22:44 GMT
#5199
afaik, no it shouldnt pop or anything like that whatsoever, however a lot of things can pop or click and it doesnt necessarily mean theres something wrong, however i would be careful if you are doing something like lying on your shoulder whilst in bed (especially if you tend to use the computer/watch things whilst lying in bed, or if you lie on your side :p ) because that could be causing it and it could get worse . not too long ago i couldnt raise my left arm/shoulder up to the sky or around without a whole lot of popping and bones getting caught and great pain; it was because i always lay on my shoulder, which was crushing it, and ive had to constantly try not to ever do this to give it a long time to heal up
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shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
July 10 2012 23:35 GMT
#5200
On July 11 2012 07:29 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 05:02 funkie wrote:
On July 10 2012 14:32 phyre112 wrote:
It's 1:30 am.

I just went outside and jumped rope for 20 minutes. Because fuck if I'm going to "start in the morning" - I know damn well I'm not going to wake up before I have to in the morning. I'm going to start NOW. And tomorrow I'm going to conitnue it, because I refuse to not be awesome.


LIKE A MOTHERFUCKING BOSS.

also,+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


A couple of years back there was a guy in my gym who literally looked exactly like that. I had to be careful to not laugh him in the face everytime I saw him (though to be fair, I wasn't much better back then, never trained legs. Just that American Football and running took care of them).


yeah even if you never trained legs you shouldn't look like that... it's like he came straight out 10 years of gaming hard, never played any sports, and just did chest for a year.
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