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Autofire2
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Pakistan290 Posts
May 03 2012 10:29 GMT
#3761
I know right? I Deadlift about 190 1x5, Bench 125 3x5 and Squat 180 3x5.

6 Months ago before I started, if you had told me that, I'd be mad impressed. But then I come here and its all like "yeahhh had a shitty workout, 350lbs deadlift ONLY. DAMN YOU TEAM LIQUID HEALTH AND FITNESS!!

j/k I love this community. Mad motivation.

On May 03 2012 14:03 shawster wrote:
wow your guys' large numbers make me feel inadequate

i'm deadlifting 205 benching 115 squatting 170.... pounds.

o well basketball season officially over time to start lifting heavy shit more.

Jupiter
Profile Joined November 2009
Australia73 Posts
May 03 2012 11:44 GMT
#3762
On May 03 2012 12:45 Hurricane wrote:
Since I'm done with madcow I decided to grab some progress pics =]

+ Show Spoiler +

@ ~ 5'11" 180lbs

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+ Show Spoiler [start of madcow] +

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Nice man! Looking good. (nohomo)

What are you going to do now that you've finished madcows?
mum says I cant play games against Zerg
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
May 03 2012 15:44 GMT
#3763
Made some homemade chili today, picking up some homemade bread from the local bakery to go with it . Just gotta let it simmer on low for 4-5 hours and it should be perfect !

Recipe:

+ Show Spoiler +
A bunch of ground beef
2 big cans crushed tomatoes
Half large yellow onion
3 large green peppers
1 cup chipotle chile powder
A teaspoon or two cumin powder (very strong spice, if you like spicy add more, add slowly though its overpowering)
2 tablespoons garlic powder
salt & black pepper
A can or two of dark red kidney beans (optional)

Fry up dat hamburger with the cut up onion and green pepper, throw all in a big pot. Add in your crushed tomatoes, stir it up. Add in your spices and beans and stir it all up. Put the pot on low heat to simmer, 4-5 hours, stir every 15 minutes. The longer the better the flavour. Serve with side of shredded cheese , sour cream, some scoop nacho chips, or some homemade bread (maybe even a bread bowl), whatever you or your guests like with your chili.

The thing about chili is you can add whatever you want as long as you got the basics and it is thick, it will be good. My friend made some with pineapple in it and it was delicious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 03 2012 16:26 GMT
#3764
On May 04 2012 00:44 Mementoss wrote:
Made some homemade chili today, picking up some homemade bread from the local bakery to go with it . Just gotta let it simmer on low for 4-5 hours and it should be perfect !

Recipe:

+ Show Spoiler +
A bunch of ground beef
2 big cans crushed tomatoes
Half large yellow onion
3 large green peppers
1 cup chipotle chile powder
A teaspoon or two cumin powder (very strong spice, if you like spicy add more, add slowly though its overpowering)
2 tablespoons garlic powder
salt & black pepper
A can or two of dark red kidney beans (optional)

Fry up dat hamburger with the cut up onion and green pepper, throw all in a big pot. Add in your crushed tomatoes, stir it up. Add in your spices and beans and stir it all up. Put the pot on low heat to simmer, 4-5 hours, stir every 15 minutes. The longer the better the flavour. Serve with side of shredded cheese , sour cream, some scoop nacho chips, or some homemade bread (maybe even a bread bowl), whatever you or your guests like with your chili.

The thing about chili is you can add whatever you want as long as you got the basics and it is thick, it will be good. My friend made some with pineapple in it and it was delicious.

A cup of chili powder? Is it like a mix of stuff or something?

Word on the chili though I've heard a lot of people using peanut butter but yeah pretty anything that sounds reasonable goes.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
May 03 2012 17:10 GMT
#3765
On May 04 2012 01:26 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 00:44 Mementoss wrote:
Made some homemade chili today, picking up some homemade bread from the local bakery to go with it . Just gotta let it simmer on low for 4-5 hours and it should be perfect !

Recipe:

+ Show Spoiler +
A bunch of ground beef
2 big cans crushed tomatoes
Half large yellow onion
3 large green peppers
1 cup chipotle chile powder
A teaspoon or two cumin powder (very strong spice, if you like spicy add more, add slowly though its overpowering)
2 tablespoons garlic powder
salt & black pepper
A can or two of dark red kidney beans (optional)

Fry up dat hamburger with the cut up onion and green pepper, throw all in a big pot. Add in your crushed tomatoes, stir it up. Add in your spices and beans and stir it all up. Put the pot on low heat to simmer, 4-5 hours, stir every 15 minutes. The longer the better the flavour. Serve with side of shredded cheese , sour cream, some scoop nacho chips, or some homemade bread (maybe even a bread bowl), whatever you or your guests like with your chili.

The thing about chili is you can add whatever you want as long as you got the basics and it is thick, it will be good. My friend made some with pineapple in it and it was delicious.

A cup of chili powder? Is it like a mix of stuff or something?

Word on the chili though I've heard a lot of people using peanut butter but yeah pretty anything that sounds reasonable goes.


Yeah its just like a spice called chili powder, just a mix of different chili spices im guessing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
May 03 2012 19:15 GMT
#3766
It's been about a month and a half since I started my diet and started taking notice of what I eat and tracking it thoroughly and so far I'm down 26 lbs. On my way back to my high school and college athletics weight. No real reason for posting this, just wanted to share!

PS - I've gotten some good insights, recipes, etc from this section of TL, much ♥
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
fazek42
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Hungary438 Posts
May 03 2012 20:01 GMT
#3767
Hello there TL. I'm just wondering if there are any members out there with mitral valve prolapse, willing to share. I am currently doing the stronglifts program, I have been very active in many kind of sports throughout my entire life, but right now I am very frustrated with my condition as I don't know how much I should be holding myself back and how I should be dealing with my heart condition. If any of you have any experience in the field, I would truly appreciate you chipping in. I just feel so bad and desperate right now.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 03 2012 20:05 GMT
#3768
On May 04 2012 04:15 Charger wrote:
It's been about a month and a half since I started my diet and started taking notice of what I eat and tracking it thoroughly and so far I'm down 26 lbs. On my way back to my high school and college athletics weight. No real reason for posting this, just wanted to share!

PS - I've gotten some good insights, recipes, etc from this section of TL, much ♥

That is awesome! Keep up the good work! 26 in 1.5 months is great progress.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Gatored
Profile Joined September 2010
United States679 Posts
May 03 2012 20:08 GMT
#3769
Posting another deadlift video to see if my form is right:



Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
May 03 2012 21:08 GMT
#3770
On May 03 2012 14:24 KOVU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 13:59 Catch wrote:
700 lbs + 2 weight trees may be on the way to my house after next monday, depending if I like the plates.

Pumped :D

Now to get a bar and a rack.
Anybody have any experience with rogue bars? I'm thinking of just the Rogue Bar. Simple. Black and chrome. Sexy.

Edit: @eshlow.
I just saw that crazy ass 190x1 dip video you did.
First of all. Damn
Second of all, that set up for your dips was absolutely nuts. I bet the ladies love your dip station in the middle of your kitchen(?) lol

Where do i find this video :D ?

I have been thinking about buying an olympic bar lately. The bar I have now is a 180cm 25mm shitty bar with horrible knurling and no spin. How much difference does it actually make what bar you workout with? I imagine the spin being really good for my olympic lifts, but other than that i dont really know.


Todays workout, actually worked out just after getting up, I suck at that but it was okay:

Squat 109kg 5-5-5 (PR)
OHP 61kg 5-2-3 (this was funny, first set wasn't even that hard but second set was hardest thing ever. That bar would not move an inch. First time trying 61kg, I imagine being stuck here until I start my bulk)

finished with some chins and hamstring work.




As far bars, I dunno. I hear its a crazy difference, but first of all I don't do any olympic lifts, and second I doubt it really makes all that much of a difference unless your on elite level; dimsum may be able to answer the question. I just want something reliable, and I know rogue will supply that. Even if they are a tad expensive.
Victory Loves Preparation
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
May 03 2012 21:21 GMT
#3771
On May 04 2012 05:08 Gatored wrote:
Posting another deadlift video to see if my form is right:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuBbHEf_-WE


That looks pretty good to me, although it's clearly way below your max so your technique isn't really expected to fail yet. The only thing that you might look at is that your butt seems a bit low to me. Your getting pretty close to the squat position at the start (e.g. 90 degree angle formed by your knees). Rippetoe suggests having the bar right over the middle of your foot (about 5-7cm closer than it is now) and then just bending your knees until your shins touch the bar. If you do that, your butt should be a bit higher in the air than it is currently.

Here's an image from the SS DVD for comparison:

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The exact angle/position of your butt depends on things like the length of your arms, but I don't think that it should be a problem for you to go just a bit higher.
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sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 00:28:23
May 04 2012 00:00 GMT
#3772
I'd put my hips lower than the red old guy is doing...

@Gatored: You are missing the bar a little to much forward and thus shifting your balance to the front. Otherwise it looked allright.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 00:27:07
May 04 2012 00:26 GMT
#3773
I keep my hips the same height gatored is doing. The bar is over his midfoot, it's just not touching his shins because his shins are more vertical, which is fine. I have long legs, and long arms, and if I were to keep my hips way up in the air like that, there would be no way to avoid back rounding, pulled muscles and probably worse. Keeping the hips lower helps to remind you to use the hamstrings and glutes in the lift, not just the back.

@Gatored Reps four and five, your hips start to slip high, and you're rounding your lower back, because it's what's doing the pulling. Makes sense that it happens at the end of the set though, just que yourself to Bring the hips forward a little sooner, and to lead the motion with your chest, not the back of your head. It's a pull upward, not a half a pull up and a half a pull back.
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
May 04 2012 00:48 GMT
#3774
On May 03 2012 20:44 Jupiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 12:45 Hurricane wrote:
Since I'm done with madcow I decided to grab some progress pics =]

+ Show Spoiler +

@ ~ 5'11" 180lbs

[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [start of madcow] +

[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]



Nice man! Looking good. (nohomo)

What are you going to do now that you've finished madcows?

Coan/Phillipi =]

and some other stuff like bench work and maybe something else, I'm not concerned with anything other than squat/dead so w/e. I might do a push/pull upper split or something.
RIP CHARLIEMURPHY 11/25/10 NEVER FORGET | Hurricane#1183 @ B.net
BlondeOnBlonde
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada150 Posts
May 04 2012 00:50 GMT
#3775
On May 04 2012 05:08 Gatored wrote:
Posting another deadlift video to see if my form is right:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuBbHEf_-WE



As soon as the bar approches the knees, don't think about standing up. Instead, push the hips forward with force. Get daddy into mommy!

I said it before and I'll say it again, the deadlift is THE most "sport specific" movement there is...
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
May 04 2012 01:17 GMT
#3776
On May 04 2012 05:08 Gatored wrote:
Posting another deadlift video to see if my form is right:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuBbHEf_-WE


start with the bar closer to your shins imo
RIP CHARLIEMURPHY 11/25/10 NEVER FORGET | Hurricane#1183 @ B.net
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
May 04 2012 04:15 GMT
#3777
On May 04 2012 06:08 Catch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 14:24 KOVU wrote:
On May 03 2012 13:59 Catch wrote:
700 lbs + 2 weight trees may be on the way to my house after next monday, depending if I like the plates.

Pumped :D

Now to get a bar and a rack.
Anybody have any experience with rogue bars? I'm thinking of just the Rogue Bar. Simple. Black and chrome. Sexy.

Edit: @eshlow.
I just saw that crazy ass 190x1 dip video you did.
First of all. Damn
Second of all, that set up for your dips was absolutely nuts. I bet the ladies love your dip station in the middle of your kitchen(?) lol

Where do i find this video :D ?

I have been thinking about buying an olympic bar lately. The bar I have now is a 180cm 25mm shitty bar with horrible knurling and no spin. How much difference does it actually make what bar you workout with? I imagine the spin being really good for my olympic lifts, but other than that i dont really know.


Todays workout, actually worked out just after getting up, I suck at that but it was okay:

Squat 109kg 5-5-5 (PR)
OHP 61kg 5-2-3 (this was funny, first set wasn't even that hard but second set was hardest thing ever. That bar would not move an inch. First time trying 61kg, I imagine being stuck here until I start my bulk)

finished with some chins and hamstring work.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZFM-umtLm4

As far bars, I dunno. I hear its a crazy difference, but first of all I don't do any olympic lifts, and second I doubt it really makes all that much of a difference unless your on elite level; dimsum may be able to answer the question. I just want something reliable, and I know rogue will supply that. Even if they are a tad expensive.



A good olympic bar is the most important piece of equipment, since the spin will help you lift better. But if you cant afford it then get a cheaper bar. If you never lifted with a bar with a good spin, then you wont miss it. Let me know what is your budget. I'll look for some bars.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
lyAsakura
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1414 Posts
May 04 2012 05:07 GMT
#3778
The knurl is more important then the spin until you get really good at the oly lifts, imo.
Can't really get a decent bar for less then 100$.

Up to 200$, get the CAP OB-86B, OB-86PB, or whatever the multitudes of endings it has. I lift on an OB-86PB at my school and they are decent bars. Alright spin, nice knurl. A bar that you can lift on without worries on any lift.

Up to 350$, you get to the pretty good stuff. Bars that you can live with and would have to think a long long time to replace. You can get the rogue bar or the castro bar, which is pretty good for all lifts. The crossfit guys basically swear by rogue stuff. Pendlay nexgen bushing would be the best if you're going to focus on the oly lifts, it's a great bar with very nice knurl (soft knurl, feels great to me). You could also get the texas power bar or the york b&r bar. Don't have personal experience with those but the b&r is a bare steel barbell so you're gonna have to take care of it more and the I would really research the texas power barbell because I heard it was used in actual powerlifting comps but where you buy it from has a big effect on it's quality (or so I've heard, no personal experience).

Above that, it's pretty much the expensive and nice and shiny barbells that cost a crapton. If I had this much money, I would spend it on a Werksan, just because I've never heard anything bad about it, but you could buy the Pendlay nexgen bearing, eleikos, ivankos for powerlifting, zhangkong (used in 2008 olympics), uesaka, dhs, etc. If it costs over 500$, you can pretty much count on it being a good barbell. All have amazing spin and dimensions. Knurl differs though, pendlays have soft knurl and bars like eleikos and uesakas have sharp knurl.

Pretty much the most important thing for me is that there is a good warranty on the barbell. All bars can bend if you do something stupid with it (drop it on a box, lol), so make sure its backed up if your buying a good one. Dimsum is right though, the barbell is the most important piece of equipment.
WeMade FOX would be a deadly SC2 team.
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 13:01:04
May 04 2012 12:55 GMT
#3779
On May 04 2012 09:00 sJarl wrote:
I'd put my hips lower than the red old guy is doing...

@Gatored: You are missing the bar a little to much forward and thus shifting your balance to the front. Otherwise it looked allright.

That's something I've noticed on the Rippetoe DVD that many people seem to disagree with. In the deadlift section he tells literally every single person "hips up" or "butt up", including the guy in the red from the screenshot. Almost every person (except for one lady with very short arms) on that DVD pulls from a position similar to the screenshot I posted:

[image loading]

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These screenshots, including the guy in the red, were all grabbed at random so I didn't cherry pick examples. That's just how Rippetoe teaches it.

Compare that with the position from the form check video:

[image loading]

I have no idea if it's right or wrong, but it's definitely different from what Rippetoe suggests. The bar is further forward which means the shins are bent further forward, and that results in the ass being lower (and the chest more vertical) than suggested by Rippetoe.
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Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
May 04 2012 13:11 GMT
#3780
thats definitely how I deadlift too (hips/butt up)
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
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