On December 12 2011 11:52 eshlow wrote: 5-8 reps is good for hypertrophy. As long as you're upping the weight or difficulty it doesn't matter what progressions you're using really
On December 19 2011 05:05 Jitsu wrote: I just bought the "You Are Your Own Gym: The Bible of Bodyweight Exercises." I read it in one evening and started the profession of workouts. So good.
Anyone else use his systems/workouts/ect? Some real experience with it? Want others peoples impressions of it.
Haven't read it. Anything interesting in terms of strength, or no?
Going to follow practical programming novice program for a bit now so I can start doing chin-ups and pull-ups. @low 80kg bw I'll switch to complete bw strength training for 5-6months(In september I'd like to try some oly lifting but that's future right now.) Staying full paleo too right now and really doing quite well in staying ~1400-1600kcal consumption.
Sticky in this subforum by eshlow has many links for Paleo. As for my own experience, I used to eat dumblings, pasta and rice with fish or chicken all the time (sometimes even bread) and consumed 0grams of veggies because I really hated them. Also fruits didn't taste as good as bread so I wasn't even close to paleo.
When I first read about it in eshlow threads I thought that I'll give it a try because I was overweight and had high blood sugar levels ( eventho I didn't eat cakes and other sweets). I started by taking small steps: ate lot's of pig, beef and chicken meat and some vegetables/fruits that I was able to swallow and added salad sauces and/or cream + flavorings. After a while I actually started to like vegetables and ~3months after staying like this I tried dumplings again ( because I was actually out of money and it was cheap as hell ) but taste wasn't great at all so it seems that I probably had somekind of addiction. I seriously prefer vegetables + fish > beef/pork/chicken over everything else now.
By going full paleo I meant that I am going to cut cream and milk out too. Didn't handle milk well anyway so it's not a huge loss :d. I have to warn you tho that some people can't handle paleo at all so if you feel like crap all the time then try to go semi-paleo ( rice and milk products ) which is much easier to follow for average person.
Eshlow, I'm about to order your book from Amazon. I'm quite interested in taking up some gymnastics training and combining it with an Olympic lifting routine!
Is there anything I need in order to complete the progressions? Rings, pull up bar, anything? I would like to know now so I can order everything together.
On January 05 2012 15:12 Jitsu wrote: @Crawler, how do you like Paleo? Any links you can hook me up with in regards to going full Paleo? Really want to experiment with it.
@Eshlow, what are you're personal feelings on bodyweight training, as well as the book you said you were ordering?
Eh? I'm not ordering a book, but I did write this book:
On January 05 2012 21:46 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote: Eshlow, I'm about to order your book from Amazon. I'm quite interested in taking up some gymnastics training and combining it with an Olympic lifting routine!
Is there anything I need in order to complete the progressions? Rings, pull up bar, anything? I would like to know now so I can order everything together.
Pullup bar and rings would be useful like said above. You can even go outside to playground and use like a tree branch or playground bars for the stuff.
Can do dips from countertops, or chairs pushed together, or ledge, or other stuff.
So if you don't have equipment it's something easy that can get you started.
enjoying the book so far, feel like i'm learning a lot. i really like how you analyze everything so deeply and are very technical about the way to go about doing certain things. i haven't had too much time to read it (only like page 80 or so), but i've looked at the exercises in the back. just been trying out certain exercises a few times to see what it's like and i already realize i need to work on my flexibility some haha. i have a few questions, but i can't really remember all of them right now. the only one i can really remember off the top of my head is what are the differences between planking with your arms out like you're going to do a pushup and putting your elbows on the ground? (p.s. i know you're not a big fan of planks lol)
On January 09 2012 08:52 Nitrogen wrote: enjoying the book so far, feel like i'm learning a lot. i really like how you analyze everything so deeply and are very technical about the way to go about doing certain things. i haven't had too much time to read it (only like page 80 or so), but i've looked at the exercises in the back. just been trying out certain exercises a few times to see what it's like and i already realize i need to work on my flexibility some haha. i have a few questions, but i can't really remember all of them right now. the only one i can really remember off the top of my head is what are the differences between planking with your arms out like you're going to do a pushup and putting your elbows on the ground? (p.s. i know you're not a big fan of planks lol)
I don't have anything against planks actually; I just think some exercises are better.
No real significant different between those variations. I feel like most people can hit a better body position on the elbows rather than the pushup position though because the forearms on the ground give a more stable base. But yeah, you eventually want to be able to work them both positions solid, especially since the pushup position is used a lot in other movements.
I';m not sure which version I put in the book... may have been the pushup position. But yeah,
Feel free to ask if you got more Q's, and don't forget to submit a review!
On January 09 2012 09:27 eshlow wrote: I don't have anything against planks actually; I just think some exercises are better.
No real significant different between those variations. I feel like most people can hit a better body position on the elbows rather than the pushup position though because the forearms on the ground give a more stable base. But yeah, you eventually want to be able to work them both positions solid, especially since the pushup position is used a lot in other movements.!
Interesting. To my mind, there's a big difference between elbow planks and pushup ones - I only practise the latter. I suppose planks are viewed popularly as a "core" exercise, for which the elbow version is perhaps more taxing, but would agree there are much better replacement exercises for that: L-sits, hanging L, body levers etc.
Instead, I see planks (along with PB/ring supports) as a good starting step for training correct scapular protraction and depression, preparing people better for planche leans, tuck planche etc. The usual recommendation is to do them for 60s with feet elevated (working up if need be) and trying to be as "hollow" as possible.
Scapula pushups really help too, which are illustrated at the start of the following video (also shows decent "hollow" at the top):
Attempting an elbow plank just now, I find that I can't seem to protract my scapulae fully. It's quite interesting to try out an analogous "scapula pushup" variation, but it feels like I'm doing mostly the same thing with partial ROM.
Your thoughts, Steve? Really looking forward to reading the book - it'll be in my hands in a week!