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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
May 12 2012 03:08 GMT
#201
Ill have to make one, there are no walls near my apt....have to do it at work
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 06:34:39
May 13 2012 06:33 GMT
#202
Lost access to gym. It went out of business. (and they were pissed about cleaning... even though they had bumper plates) I'm now lifting enough I can no longer using my terrible setup at home. So bodyweight it is (btw, up to deadlifting almost 2x bodyweight, and squat 1.5x. My presses still suck. I might still try to deadlift at home, because I don't need no fancy equipment, (squat rack) just the barbell which I do have. Should I continue deadlifting w/ bodyweight?

I need something that won't too much isometric pressure on the neck, with a focus on the core/back. (Not neglecting legs though, just not the focus per se) Which progressions should I be looking at?

I'll regain access to a gym and will resume SS when I go back to college. However, I have a surgery in a month, and will have super atrophy over the 12 weeks of restrictions I have after, so I'd like to build up as much upper body strength as possible.

Also, regaining reasonable flexibility is a goal.

eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
May 13 2012 16:16 GMT
#203
If you can continue to deadlift and squat you should definitely do that.

As far as core/back what type of stuff have you been looking at?

Any of the standard pullups/dips work well.... I don't know how well you can do with say back lever, front lever, planche, or any of those... same with pushup/row variations and handstand pushups. Do you have access to rings or a pullup bar or what?
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 22:29:26
May 13 2012 22:29 GMT
#204
On May 14 2012 01:16 eshlow wrote:
If you can continue to deadlift and squat you should definitely do that.

As far as core/back what type of stuff have you been looking at?

Any of the standard pullups/dips work well.... I don't know how well you can do with say back lever, front lever, planche, or any of those... same with pushup/row variations and handstand pushups. Do you have access to rings or a pullup bar or what?

No rings, but yes to pullup bar.

I can't squat, do not have access to equipment. Could squat, but would be capped at 110 pounds. I can deadlift, will continue.

Mostly I need to keep severe pressure off of this area (C6-T9).... until it gets reinforced.

[image loading]


Why don't you know how well I could do? Just strength, or back stuff?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
May 13 2012 23:19 GMT
#205
Because I don't know what forces your spine can take for that area.

If you can do dips/pullups for now that works.. it's fairly all around for the most part
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 13 2012 23:52 GMT
#206
oyl fuck im drunk


*GHIGH FIVES FOR EVERYONE*
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 14 2012 00:00 GMT
#207
On May 14 2012 08:19 eshlow wrote:
Because I don't know what forces your spine can take for that area.

If you can do dips/pullups for now that works.. it's fairly all around for the most part

Can do... I'll post back if I have any questions
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
May 19 2012 23:55 GMT
#208
Pretty good news, book is now available on Amazon.co.uk and other European Amazons.

UK Amazon:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Overcoming-Gravity-Systematic-Gymnastics-Bodyweight/dp/1467933120
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
May 21 2012 15:13 GMT
#209
So, this is some more content directly from Overcoming Gravity, which is helpful in structuring isometrics such as the planche, back lever, front lever, cross, as well as some of the skill movements like handstand, L-sit, etc. Likewise, another chart was constructed for eccentrics which can be useful to work up to strength movements like one arm chinups or even just pullups or dips if you are just starting out.

I figured it would be good to release this because structuring loading parameters is difficult for most people to do, especially in regard to these two different types of exercises. This article serves to help answer the questions in regards to building strength and hypertrophy:

~ How long do the sets need to be?

~ Why are they that length?

~ What overall volume (sets x holds) is good for these types of exercises

Without further ado,

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2012/05/prilepin-tables-for-bodyweight-strength-isometric-and-eccentric-exercises/
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
mvdiabetes
Profile Joined May 2012
India1 Post
May 22 2012 11:40 GMT
#210
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HNOblivion
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil37 Posts
May 22 2012 18:57 GMT
#211
On January 05 2012 15:12 Jitsu wrote:
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GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
May 24 2012 12:18 GMT
#212
Got Eshlow's book the other day :D can't put it down gonna start an integrated BB and bodyweight program once I finish it
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
May 24 2012 21:48 GMT
#213
On May 24 2012 21:18 GuiltyJerk wrote:
Got Eshlow's book the other day :D can't put it down gonna start an integrated BB and bodyweight program once I finish it


Let me know if you want a critique or have any questions
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 22:41:01
May 30 2012 21:47 GMT
#214
Hmmm nevermind sorry
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
June 02 2012 00:08 GMT
#215
So I am incorporating body weight training into my 5/3/1. I was wondering if someone could take a look at it and make sure its okay. I read Eshlow's post on incorporating body weight and barbell training, but I can't afford the book yet so I had to kind of piece things together.

Anyway, here it is.
+ Show Spoiler +


Day 1
Overhead Press - 5/3/1
Deadlift - 5 x 10 at 140 lbs
Calves

Day 2
Deadlift - 5/3/1
Planche Progression [Frog]
Pull up/Pendley Rows

Day 3
Bench Press - 5/3/1
L Seat Progression
Calves

Day 4
Squat - 5/3/1
Overhead Press 5 x 10 at 50 lbs
Rollout/Plank


Hopefully that is good. I really need to increase my arm strength/stability [specifically triceps], so I plan on trying to do that. Might swap out OHP on squat day for close grip bench. Dips put a ton of strain on my shoulder/trap area.
Victory Loves Preparation
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 02 2012 00:23 GMT
#216
On June 02 2012 09:08 Catch wrote:
So I am incorporating body weight training into my 5/3/1. I was wondering if someone could take a look at it and make sure its okay. I read Eshlow's post on incorporating body weight and barbell training, but I can't afford the book yet so I had to kind of piece things together.

Anyway, here it is.
+ Show Spoiler +


Day 1
Overhead Press - 5/3/1
Deadlift - 5 x 10 at 140 lbs
Calves

Day 2
Deadlift - 5/3/1
Planche Progression [Frog]
Pull up/Pendley Rows

Day 3
Bench Press - 5/3/1
L Seat Progression
Calves

Day 4
Squat - 5/3/1
Overhead Press 5 x 10 at 50 lbs
Rollout/Plank


Hopefully that is good. I really need to increase my arm strength/stability [specifically triceps], so I plan on trying to do that. Might swap out OHP on squat day for close grip bench. Dips put a ton of strain on my shoulder/trap area.


Seems OK though it depends on what your goals are and what version of 5/3/1 you are doing...
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
June 03 2012 15:12 GMT
#217
May I add to this thread and say that trying to get a manna is probably the hardest physical thing I've tried to do in my life. @_@
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
June 03 2012 16:02 GMT
#218
On June 02 2012 09:23 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 09:08 Catch wrote:
So I am incorporating body weight training into my 5/3/1. I was wondering if someone could take a look at it and make sure its okay. I read Eshlow's post on incorporating body weight and barbell training, but I can't afford the book yet so I had to kind of piece things together.

Anyway, here it is.
+ Show Spoiler +


Day 1
Overhead Press - 5/3/1
Deadlift - 5 x 10 at 140 lbs
Calves

Day 2
Deadlift - 5/3/1
Planche Progression [Frog]
Pull up/Pendley Rows

Day 3
Bench Press - 5/3/1
L Seat Progression
Calves

Day 4
Squat - 5/3/1
Overhead Press 5 x 10 at 50 lbs
Rollout/Plank


Hopefully that is good. I really need to increase my arm strength/stability [specifically triceps], so I plan on trying to do that. Might swap out OHP on squat day for close grip bench. Dips put a ton of strain on my shoulder/trap area.


Seems OK though it depends on what your goals are and what version of 5/3/1 you are doing...


Mostly boring but big without the 5x10 bench and squat. Messes with my shoulders too much, so i just cut it back to deadlift and squat.

I have three goals (in order):
1. Get a monster deadlift
2. Strengthen my arms.
3. Bodyweight OHP by the end of the year.

Concerning #2, they are ridiculously weak; I tried to do a one arm push up the other day and they shook so much I couldn't even do one. My triceps are probably really weak as well. I also have been working on my wrist flexibility. I use the stretches and stuff outlined in the flexibility friday thing on r/bodyweightfitness. I got into a push up position to do the planche leans, and my arms shook like crazy again.

...tl;dr my arms suck and I want to get them stronger.
Victory Loves Preparation
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 03 2012 17:44 GMT
#219
On June 04 2012 00:12 Chunhyang wrote:
May I add to this thread and say that trying to get a manna is probably the hardest physical thing I've tried to do in my life. @_@


I agree sir.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 03 2012 17:45 GMT
#220
On June 04 2012 01:02 Catch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 09:23 eshlow wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:08 Catch wrote:
So I am incorporating body weight training into my 5/3/1. I was wondering if someone could take a look at it and make sure its okay. I read Eshlow's post on incorporating body weight and barbell training, but I can't afford the book yet so I had to kind of piece things together.

Anyway, here it is.
+ Show Spoiler +


Day 1
Overhead Press - 5/3/1
Deadlift - 5 x 10 at 140 lbs
Calves

Day 2
Deadlift - 5/3/1
Planche Progression [Frog]
Pull up/Pendley Rows

Day 3
Bench Press - 5/3/1
L Seat Progression
Calves

Day 4
Squat - 5/3/1
Overhead Press 5 x 10 at 50 lbs
Rollout/Plank


Hopefully that is good. I really need to increase my arm strength/stability [specifically triceps], so I plan on trying to do that. Might swap out OHP on squat day for close grip bench. Dips put a ton of strain on my shoulder/trap area.


Seems OK though it depends on what your goals are and what version of 5/3/1 you are doing...


Mostly boring but big without the 5x10 bench and squat. Messes with my shoulders too much, so i just cut it back to deadlift and squat.

I have three goals (in order):
1. Get a monster deadlift
2. Strengthen my arms.
3. Bodyweight OHP by the end of the year.

Concerning #2, they are ridiculously weak; I tried to do a one arm push up the other day and they shook so much I couldn't even do one. My triceps are probably really weak as well. I also have been working on my wrist flexibility. I use the stretches and stuff outlined in the flexibility friday thing on r/bodyweightfitness. I got into a push up position to do the planche leans, and my arms shook like crazy again.

...tl;dr my arms suck and I want to get them stronger.


Seems alright then.. you're pressing (2x OHP, 1x bench) 3x a week so that's good. Depending on where you're at you might be able to add a bit more volume but see how it turns out
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
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