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On November 23 2013 04:17 ieatkids5 wrote:
i think the general consensus on the timing of meals relative to training is that it doesn't matter as long as your body is comfortable with it. i've heard of people who like training on an empty stomach, full stomach, and everything in between. again, there'll always be really specific stuff out there saying "you shouldn't eat right before you sleep" or "you should drink a protein shake 1 to 2 hours after working out to get the most out of it." you can follow a guideline you like if you want. but to be honest, i'm sure eating 4 hours after working out instead of 2 hours will only cause a minute, if any, difference in results. timing of meals contributes barely anything to your gains when compared to things like consistency and eating right.
NO IF YOU WAIT THAT LONG YOU'LL MISS YOUR ANABOLIC WINDOW OF GAINZ
/sarcasm
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Thank you for the information, that is good to hear.
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On November 23 2013 02:59 decafchicken wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 02:54 SixStrings wrote:
I can't eat fish and meat everyday, far too expensive. Must be hella expensive in germany? I don't eat fish everyday (good fish is 5-10$/pound, tuna is very cheap though), but i have loads of chicken/beef/pork (1.50-4$ per 450g)
Food in general, including meat, is stupidly cheap in Germany. Compared to the US probably only beef and fish would appear expensive, but that is only because everything else is incredibly cheap.
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=374728
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Okay, I just bought groceries after my new plan, and it's not as dire as I had thought. I should be able to get by with 30€ a week.
So here's what I plan on eating during the week:
2 Eggs for breakfast
1 cup of mixed nuts and cranberries or raisins
2 servings of vegetables (carrots, paprika, cucumber, kohlrabi etc.)
and either one of the three for dinner:
400g of lean chicken (baked, not fried) with salt
1 can of Tunafish with rice
500g of no fat quark with fruit
I haven't counted the calories, but I'd guess that puts me in the 1500~ zone, which should be plenty, but still leave some room to lose weight. Any suggestions?
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Don't eat no fat foods, they're garbage.
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On November 24 2013 00:40 SixStrings wrote:
Okay, I just bought groceries after my new plan, and it's not as dire as I had thought. I should be able to get by with 30€ a week.
So here's what I plan on eating during the week:
2 Eggs for breakfast
1 cup of mixed nuts and cranberries or raisins
2 servings of vegetables (carrots, paprika, cucumber, kohlrabi etc.)
and either one of the three for dinner:
400g of lean chicken (baked, not fried) with salt
1 can of Tunafish with rice
500g of no fat quark with fruit
I haven't counted the calories, but I'd guess that puts me in the 1500~ zone, which should be plenty, but still leave some room to lose weight. Any suggestions?
large organ meat is an important item missing from this.
you should eat liver at least once a week.
also, to insure you cook it correctly do a bit of research.
http://www.canadianliving.com/food/mellow_liver_and_onions.php
the main reason stuff like CoQ10 is "all the rage" is that a lot of people in the west do not eat large organ meat.
liver fills in that gap.
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Meta-analysis that just came out shows that specific protein timing (gotta drink your protein shake within 1 hour after working out to max your gainz brah) does not contribute to muscular adaptation. Instead, "consuming adequate protein in combination with resistance exercise is the key factor for maximizing muscle protein accretion."
Might deserve a spot in the sticky's "protein" section.
http://www.jissn.com/content/10/1/53/abstract
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On November 24 2013 00:40 SixStrings wrote:
Okay, I just bought groceries after my new plan, and it's not as dire as I had thought. I should be able to get by with 30€ a week.
So here's what I plan on eating during the week:
2 Eggs for breakfast
1 cup of mixed nuts and cranberries or raisins
2 servings of vegetables (carrots, paprika, cucumber, kohlrabi etc.)
and either one of the three for dinner:
400g of lean chicken (baked, not fried) with salt
1 can of Tunafish with rice
500g of no fat quark with fruit
I haven't counted the calories, but I'd guess that puts me in the 1500~ zone, which should be plenty, but still leave some room to lose weight. Any suggestions?
That diet looks horrible. Are you the size of a mouse? If so, why are you trying to lose weight?
Also, since when is paprika a vegetable?
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Some people call bell peppers paprika.
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Asking for suggestions & comments from the more experienced people here.
I have started exercising more lately and trying to lose some weight. I'm 92kg (~200lbs), 191cm (~6'3 "), been running and walking 2,5 - 3,5+km (1,5 - 2,1 miles) each day now for a week and a half and doing some general weight lifting at home, push-ups, sit-ups and so on. I'm planning to keep going and adding more to my 'exercise plan' bit by bit.
So i'm more curious/concerned about my eating. I've been trying to eat fairly healthy for few months now (and before that but had to take a 'brief' 6 month break due to military service). I don't eat pasta, potatoes or bread/rice (if i do, it's a piece of oat bread or brown rice). Almost no sugar.
Daily: I don't usually eat breakfast (if i do, one or two bananas/other fruit, cottage cheese or eggs), drink a cup of coffee and plenty of water. My next meal and usually the only big meal (nothing massive though) is at afternoon (4-5PM). Varying with chicken or other meat (fish, ground beef etc) and vegetables, sometimes salads (no sauces). Cottage cheese or eggs on the side at times. I drink 2.5-3+ liters of water a day. I feel like i'm eating enough, certainly.
I think thats about it for now. I might have missed some important info though, how much i eat calorie wise for example. I probably should start counting? Comments and suggestions are more than welcome.
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On December 06 2013 22:45 Grettin wrote:
Asking for suggestions & comments from the more experienced people here.
I have started exercising more lately and trying to lose some weight. I'm 92kg (~200lbs), 191cm (~6'3 "), been running and walking 2,5 - 3,5+km (1,5 - 2,1 miles) each day now for a week and a half and doing some general weight lifting at home, push-ups, sit-ups and so on. I'm planning to keep going and adding more to my 'exercise plan' bit by bit.
So i'm more curious/concerned about my eating. I've been trying to eat fairly healthy for few months now (and before that but had to take a 'brief' 6 month break due to military service). I don't eat pasta, potatoes or bread/rice (if i do, it's a piece of oat bread or brown rice). Almost no sugar.
Daily: I don't usually eat breakfast (if i do, one or two bananas/other fruit, cottage cheese or eggs), drink a cup of coffee and plenty of water. My next meal and usually the only big meal (nothing massive though) is at afternoon (4-5PM). Varying with chicken or other meat (fish, ground beef etc) and vegetables, sometimes salads (no sauces). Cottage cheese or eggs on the side at times. I drink 2.5-3+ liters of water a day. I feel like i'm eating enough, certainly.
I think thats about it for now. I might have missed some important info though, how much i eat calorie wise for example. I probably should start counting? Comments and suggestions are more than welcome.
Count calories for a week, see if you lose weight during that week (alternatively, find a calorie calculator and put in your stats, but make sure you UNDERESTIMATE you activity level) and once you know what your baseline energy usage is, cut 500 off of that every day, and you should lose ~1lb (~.5kg) a week 
Diet sounds fairly solid though, unless you eat a fairly massive amount of the foods you mentioned though, I have a hard time imagining that you're not already losing a fair amount of weight.
If you want to preserve/add some muscle, I'd say that doing Starting Strength (mentioned in OP I think) to supplement your other activity will do you well
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Are you saying sometimes your first meal of the day is at 4-5PM?
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On December 07 2013 00:37 GuiltyJerk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2013 22:45 Grettin wrote:
Asking for suggestions & comments from the more experienced people here.
I have started exercising more lately and trying to lose some weight. I'm 92kg (~200lbs), 191cm (~6'3 "), been running and walking 2,5 - 3,5+km (1,5 - 2,1 miles) each day now for a week and a half and doing some general weight lifting at home, push-ups, sit-ups and so on. I'm planning to keep going and adding more to my 'exercise plan' bit by bit.
So i'm more curious/concerned about my eating. I've been trying to eat fairly healthy for few months now (and before that but had to take a 'brief' 6 month break due to military service). I don't eat pasta, potatoes or bread/rice (if i do, it's a piece of oat bread or brown rice). Almost no sugar.
Daily: I don't usually eat breakfast (if i do, one or two bananas/other fruit, cottage cheese or eggs), drink a cup of coffee and plenty of water. My next meal and usually the only big meal (nothing massive though) is at afternoon (4-5PM). Varying with chicken or other meat (fish, ground beef etc) and vegetables, sometimes salads (no sauces). Cottage cheese or eggs on the side at times. I drink 2.5-3+ liters of water a day. I feel like i'm eating enough, certainly.
I think thats about it for now. I might have missed some important info though, how much i eat calorie wise for example. I probably should start counting? Comments and suggestions are more than welcome. Count calories for a week, see if you lose weight during that week (alternatively, find a calorie calculator and put in your stats, but make sure you UNDERESTIMATE you activity level) and once you know what your baseline energy usage is, cut 500 off of that every day, and you should lose ~1lb (~.5kg) a week Diet sounds fairly solid though, unless you eat a fairly massive amount of the foods you mentioned though, I have a hard time imagining that you're not already losing a fair amount of weight. If you want to preserve/add some muscle, I'd say that doing Starting Strength (mentioned in OP I think) to supplement your other activity will do you well
Thank you for the reply! I have tried to cut down the amount of food i eat bit by bit, when i eat. As i mentioned, nothing massive though. I already lost few kilos since i started exercising regularly, but thats most likely just all the fluids/liquids in my body. 
I'll take a look at the calories, calculators and that stuff for sure!
On December 07 2013 00:37 solidbebe wrote:
Are you saying sometimes your first meal of the day is at 4-5PM?
Sounds crazy, but yes. I mean, I've never been into breakfast. Sure, right now i don't have much to do during the day, so i might wake up between 9am-11am or bit later, so I don't really feel that hungry. What i mean by that is that if i'd have a regular schedule of school or work for example, i would probably need to eat something. But right now, i don't feel like i have to. But as i said, sometimes i do eat fruit or few eggs. I have been trying to keep up with a decent sleeping schedule lately though.
I've been thinking of making a veggie or berry smoothie in the morning and start the day with that. Guess that wouldn't hurt?
Thanks for the comments, much appreciated!
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On December 07 2013 01:01 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 00:37 GuiltyJerk wrote:On December 06 2013 22:45 Grettin wrote:
Asking for suggestions & comments from the more experienced people here.
I have started exercising more lately and trying to lose some weight. I'm 92kg (~200lbs), 191cm (~6'3 "), been running and walking 2,5 - 3,5+km (1,5 - 2,1 miles) each day now for a week and a half and doing some general weight lifting at home, push-ups, sit-ups and so on. I'm planning to keep going and adding more to my 'exercise plan' bit by bit.
So i'm more curious/concerned about my eating. I've been trying to eat fairly healthy for few months now (and before that but had to take a 'brief' 6 month break due to military service). I don't eat pasta, potatoes or bread/rice (if i do, it's a piece of oat bread or brown rice). Almost no sugar.
Daily: I don't usually eat breakfast (if i do, one or two bananas/other fruit, cottage cheese or eggs), drink a cup of coffee and plenty of water. My next meal and usually the only big meal (nothing massive though) is at afternoon (4-5PM). Varying with chicken or other meat (fish, ground beef etc) and vegetables, sometimes salads (no sauces). Cottage cheese or eggs on the side at times. I drink 2.5-3+ liters of water a day. I feel like i'm eating enough, certainly.
I think thats about it for now. I might have missed some important info though, how much i eat calorie wise for example. I probably should start counting? Comments and suggestions are more than welcome. Count calories for a week, see if you lose weight during that week (alternatively, find a calorie calculator and put in your stats, but make sure you UNDERESTIMATE you activity level) and once you know what your baseline energy usage is, cut 500 off of that every day, and you should lose ~1lb (~.5kg) a week Diet sounds fairly solid though, unless you eat a fairly massive amount of the foods you mentioned though, I have a hard time imagining that you're not already losing a fair amount of weight. If you want to preserve/add some muscle, I'd say that doing Starting Strength (mentioned in OP I think) to supplement your other activity will do you well Thank you for the reply! I have tried to cut down the amount of food i eat bit by bit, when i eat. As i mentioned, nothing massive though. I already lost few kilos since i started exercising regularly, but thats most likely just all the fluids/liquids in my body. I'll take a look at the calories, calculators and that stuff for sure! Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 00:37 solidbebe wrote:
Are you saying sometimes your first meal of the day is at 4-5PM? Sounds crazy, but yes. I mean, I've never been into breakfast. Sure, right now i don't have much to do during the day, so i might wake up between 9am-11am or bit later, so I don't really feel that hungry. What i mean by that is that if i'd have a regular schedule of school or work for example, i would probably need to eat something. But right now, i don't feel like i have to. But as i said, sometimes i do eat fruit or few eggs. I have been trying to keep up with a decent sleeping schedule lately though. I've been thinking of making a veggie or berry smoothie in the morning and start the day with that. Guess that wouldn't hurt? Thanks for the comments, much appreciated!
It would be better to eat a quarter stick of grass fed butter than drink a smoothie. Smoothie will just spike your insulin and make you hungrier earlier in the day. Butter will make you metabolically adapted for using and burning fat, provide a good source of natural CLA, and provide energy for your brain.
I also eat my first meal late in the day after the gym.
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You know you've gone off the deep end about your body-image when you eat a fucking butter ingot.
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On December 13 2013 08:31 SixStrings wrote:
You know you've gone off the deep end about your body-image when you eat a fucking butter ingot.
Why's that? You don't like the taste? Stir it in some coffee or tea?
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butter tastes so fucking good. mmmmmmmm
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grass fed butter? i put that shit on everything. chicken. bacon. vegetables. coffee. oatmeal.
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I mean I love butter, but that is just gross. Coffee?
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