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Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
August 22 2012 01:50 GMT
#1721
2-3 pounds of lobster? I know stuff like chicken has around 80 grams of protein per single pound, and since fish is the same way, I'd double check.

I've never had lobster though. So I can't tell you for sure :D
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ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
August 22 2012 05:06 GMT
#1722
hey all, been keeping up with this forum quite a bit in the past 2 or 3 months. i finally got all my shit together, so i've managed to make a regular routine out of weight training. right now, i'm a total beginner when it comes to barbell weightlifting, but i've had several years of athletic training (table tennis with a bit of swimming). and because of that, i've always done a lot of bodyweight training as recommended by my coach. throughout the years, i've mainly been gettin my exercise by training table tennis (3-4 times a week, 3-4 hours each with small breaks) and bodyweight training (doing sets of pushups, situps/crunches, pullips/chinups).

of course, reading through this forum really made me want to supplement my current routine with weight training. my gym doesn't have a barbell, but it does have dumbbells and a chinup/pullup bar that i can use. it also has a bunch of machines, but i'll avoid those if i have the dumbbells

so what i want to do is create a weekly routine that will fit into my schedule. it'd be great to hear some feedback from you guys about it. again, i'll be doing my exercises with dumbbells simply becausemy gym doesn't have a barbell.

goals:
1. get a strong core.probably the most important goal, having read this forum a lot. i want to achieve this through a modified starting strength routine.
2. get a really cut, atheletic body. this is gonna be the hard part. lowering my bodyfat percent down to around 10-12% is gonna come from having a stricter diet, rather than in the gym, though it helps. right now, i'm have a pretty slim build with some muscle, but i also have some bellyfat that i wanna get rid of. i'm 5' 11' 165 pounds, btw, though most of my muscles are in my legs from having trained table tennis for so long.
3. later on, i want to be able to do 10 muscleups. i just think these are pretty badass and wanna be able to do them.

schedule:
right now, i'm playing table tennis 2 nights a week, although it doesn't matter which day i play. i should be able to supplement this with 2 night a week of weighlifting.

routine 1
warm up with some running
2x5 deadlift
5x5 squat
5x5 bench
3x8 pullups

routine 2
warm up with running
5x5 squat
5x5 press
5x5 rows? they're the things where you put one knee and one hand on a bench, bend over, and pull a dumbbell from the groud to your shoulder.
3x8 pullups
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
August 22 2012 17:45 GMT
#1723
As for the muscle ups, you are going to have to go to the bodyweight training thread for help with that :D I am just getting into BW training, or else I'd help you.

Anyways. If there is really a way for you to get a gym with a barbell I would highly recommend it, even if you have to switch gyms. The reason being that dumbbells are higher jumps than 1.25/2.5 plates that you can use. Also, the dumbbells you use for say squat/DL will quickly become obsolete. It is easy to put on 100 lbs in these two in a few weeks.

That being said, your routine looks fine. It is just a modified SS. I don't know if you mean the same weight across for your 5x5,but I would be careful with all that volume at first; I personally have problems with high volume routines so just make sure you can handle it before going balls deep.
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 22 2012 20:59 GMT
#1724
On August 22 2012 14:06 ieatkids5 wrote:
3. later on, i want to be able to do 10 muscleups. i just think these are pretty badass and wanna be able to do them.

http://www.beastskills.com/the-muscle-up/
I found this helpful. Jim is a boss.
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ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
August 23 2012 01:59 GMT
#1725
On August 23 2012 02:45 Catch wrote:
As for the muscle ups, you are going to have to go to the bodyweight training thread for help with that :D I am just getting into BW training, or else I'd help you.

Anyways. If there is really a way for you to get a gym with a barbell I would highly recommend it, even if you have to switch gyms. The reason being that dumbbells are higher jumps than 1.25/2.5 plates that you can use. Also, the dumbbells you use for say squat/DL will quickly become obsolete. It is easy to put on 100 lbs in these two in a few weeks.

That being said, your routine looks fine. It is just a modified SS. I don't know if you mean the same weight across for your 5x5,but I would be careful with all that volume at first; I personally have problems with high volume routines so just make sure you can handle it before going balls deep.

the problem is, i can't really afford a membership at a real gym right now. the gym im using is the one at the apartment i live in, so it's already paid for in my monthly dues.

continuing on with this problem is exactly what you mentioned - dumbbells just don't have enough weight. not to mention that they're much more difficult to squat and deadlift with than a bar... i can barely hold two 50lb dumbbells up on my shoulders for squats, and my arms and hands get tired from that more quickly than my legs or back do. which then leaves me with more difficulty doing benches and ohp....

i guess this is the best i have to work with right now though, so i can't complain. i'll make do with what i have. right now, i've realized that with dumbbells, i can't do my routine actually, simply because i can't hold 2 big dumbbells with enough weight for 5x5 reps. right now, i can do something more like 5x8 or 5x10 with squats.

in the end, i'kk probably just end up doing more reps...
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
August 23 2012 02:05 GMT
#1726
On August 23 2012 10:59 ieatkids5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 02:45 Catch wrote:
As for the muscle ups, you are going to have to go to the bodyweight training thread for help with that :D I am just getting into BW training, or else I'd help you.

Anyways. If there is really a way for you to get a gym with a barbell I would highly recommend it, even if you have to switch gyms. The reason being that dumbbells are higher jumps than 1.25/2.5 plates that you can use. Also, the dumbbells you use for say squat/DL will quickly become obsolete. It is easy to put on 100 lbs in these two in a few weeks.

That being said, your routine looks fine. It is just a modified SS. I don't know if you mean the same weight across for your 5x5,but I would be careful with all that volume at first; I personally have problems with high volume routines so just make sure you can handle it before going balls deep.

the problem is, i can't really afford a membership at a real gym right now. the gym im using is the one at the apartment i live in, so it's already paid for in my monthly dues.

continuing on with this problem is exactly what you mentioned - dumbbells just don't have enough weight. not to mention that they're much more difficult to squat and deadlift with than a bar... i can barely hold two 50lb dumbbells up on my shoulders for squats, and my arms and hands get tired from that more quickly than my legs or back do. which then leaves me with more difficulty doing benches and ohp....

i guess this is the best i have to work with right now though, so i can't complain. i'll make do with what i have. right now, i've realized that with dumbbells, i can't do my routine actually, simply because i can't hold 2 big dumbbells with enough weight for 5x5 reps. right now, i can do something more like 5x8 or 5x10 with squats.

in the end, i'kk probably just end up doing more reps...


Your proposed routine is fine.

There is also bodyweight strength training:

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/03/the-fundamentals-of-bodyweight-strength-training/
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 06:30:45
August 26 2012 06:30 GMT
#1727
Whenever I straighten my left arm completely, my hand starts to go numb and tingle. wtf is going on? I understand its a pinched nerve, but why? Is it carpal tunnel (left handed mouse user)? Why only when I straighten my arm?

If it is CTS, what can I do about it? Do I need surgery?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
August 26 2012 12:27 GMT
#1728
On August 26 2012 15:30 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Whenever I straighten my left arm completely, my hand starts to go numb and tingle. wtf is going on? I understand its a pinched nerve, but why? Is it carpal tunnel (left handed mouse user)? Why only when I straighten my arm?

If it is CTS, what can I do about it? Do I need surgery?


See the nerve gliding exercises:

http://www.handhealthresources.com/Solutions Pages/Exercises.htm

And figure out which one it is (medial, radial, ulnar).

ALso, massage from your neck all of the muscles on the back and front side, and your arm, and your forearm. That will help loosen everything up.

Also, look at your posture when using the computer.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
August 26 2012 19:20 GMT
#1729
On August 26 2012 21:27 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 15:30 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Whenever I straighten my left arm completely, my hand starts to go numb and tingle. wtf is going on? I understand its a pinched nerve, but why? Is it carpal tunnel (left handed mouse user)? Why only when I straighten my arm?

If it is CTS, what can I do about it? Do I need surgery?


See the nerve gliding exercises:

http://www.handhealthresources.com/Solutions Pages/Exercises.htm

And figure out which one it is (medial, radial, ulnar).

ALso, massage from your neck all of the muscles on the back and front side, and your arm, and your forearm. That will help loosen everything up.

Also, look at your posture when using the computer.


Damn eshlow, what don't you have a resource for? Lol totally stealing that website.
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
August 27 2012 00:45 GMT
#1730
On August 27 2012 04:20 Catch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 21:27 eshlow wrote:
On August 26 2012 15:30 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Whenever I straighten my left arm completely, my hand starts to go numb and tingle. wtf is going on? I understand its a pinched nerve, but why? Is it carpal tunnel (left handed mouse user)? Why only when I straighten my arm?

If it is CTS, what can I do about it? Do I need surgery?


See the nerve gliding exercises:

http://www.handhealthresources.com/Solutions Pages/Exercises.htm

And figure out which one it is (medial, radial, ulnar).

ALso, massage from your neck all of the muscles on the back and front side, and your arm, and your forearm. That will help loosen everything up.

Also, look at your posture when using the computer.


Damn eshlow, what don't you have a resource for? Lol totally stealing that website.


I have websites for almost everything... :p
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
August 27 2012 00:53 GMT
#1731
On August 26 2012 21:27 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 15:30 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Whenever I straighten my left arm completely, my hand starts to go numb and tingle. wtf is going on? I understand its a pinched nerve, but why? Is it carpal tunnel (left handed mouse user)? Why only when I straighten my arm?

If it is CTS, what can I do about it? Do I need surgery?


See the nerve gliding exercises:

http://www.handhealthresources.com/Solutions Pages/Exercises.htm

And figure out which one it is (medial, radial, ulnar).

ALso, massage from your neck all of the muscles on the back and front side, and your arm, and your forearm. That will help loosen everything up.

Also, look at your posture when using the computer.

Thanks

Appears to be my ulnar since it was my pinky and ring finger that was mostly numbed/tingling.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
August 28 2012 01:36 GMT
#1732
On August 27 2012 09:53 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 21:27 eshlow wrote:
On August 26 2012 15:30 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Whenever I straighten my left arm completely, my hand starts to go numb and tingle. wtf is going on? I understand its a pinched nerve, but why? Is it carpal tunnel (left handed mouse user)? Why only when I straighten my arm?

If it is CTS, what can I do about it? Do I need surgery?


See the nerve gliding exercises:

http://www.handhealthresources.com/Solutions Pages/Exercises.htm

And figure out which one it is (medial, radial, ulnar).

ALso, massage from your neck all of the muscles on the back and front side, and your arm, and your forearm. That will help loosen everything up.

Also, look at your posture when using the computer.

Thanks

Appears to be my ulnar since it was my pinky and ring finger that was mostly numbed/tingling.


Nerve floss and glide,

Massage from your brachial plexus down in the inner arm and forearm as well.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 01 2012 03:36 GMT
#1733
TL, one simple question for you. What's your breathing pattern when working out?
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kastoob
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia153 Posts
September 01 2012 08:27 GMT
#1734
On September 01 2012 12:36 Xiphos wrote:
TL, one simple question for you. What's your breathing pattern when working out?


I think the majority of us just follow this advice:

I take big breaths between each rep between each rep.
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 10:27:10
September 01 2012 09:44 GMT
#1735
On September 01 2012 17:27 kastoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 12:36 Xiphos wrote:
TL, one simple question for you. What's your breathing pattern when working out?


I think the majority of us just follow this advice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkeN_fkXrdE
I take big breaths between each rep between each rep.

I sometimes feel like taking a breath between each rep slows me down too much, so I take one big breath and see if I can do 2 or 3 reps with it. My current squat pattern, for example, is 2-2-1 (at least until the last set when my legs get tired, where it's more like 2-1-1-1). But yeah, Rippetoe's advice on breathing is very useful for keeping everything tight.
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
September 04 2012 01:07 GMT
#1736
Are traditional bicep curls and hammer bicep curls basically the same? I've been only doing hammer curls (for 3 years). When I was young I broke my wrist and didn't do the necessary excercises while it was healing, so I can't fully turn my left hand over.

For a visual, put both your arms straight infront of you, level with the ground, palms down, and turn your hands so your palms are facing up. Your hands should be rotating 180 degrees - my left hand can only golike 115 degrees.

So traditional curls aren't really possible for my left hand, and I'm wondering if I'm not working out a particular muscle by exclusively using the hammer curl.
Refer to my post.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 04 2012 01:22 GMT
#1737
On September 04 2012 10:07 Zenbrez wrote:
Are traditional bicep curls and hammer bicep curls basically the same? I've been only doing hammer curls (for 3 years). When I was young I broke my wrist and didn't do the necessary excercises while it was healing, so I can't fully turn my left hand over.

For a visual, put both your arms straight infront of you, level with the ground, palms down, and turn your hands so your palms are facing up. Your hands should be rotating 180 degrees - my left hand can only golike 115 degrees.

So traditional curls aren't really possible for my left hand, and I'm wondering if I'm not working out a particular muscle by exclusively using the hammer curl.


Work on improving your supination...

Also, it doesn't matter significantly with biceps curls

However most of your routine should be compound exercises like pullups, rows, etc. and then the icing on top if the curls.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
September 04 2012 03:30 GMT
#1738
Having never heard or seen that word in my life.. looked it up. My bones were fused as a result of not doing the exercises, it's not something I can work on
Refer to my post.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 04 2012 04:19 GMT
#1739
On September 04 2012 12:30 Zenbrez wrote:
Having never heard or seen that word in my life.. looked it up. My bones were fused as a result of not doing the exercises, it's not something I can work on


Surgically fused? Or did they fuse and you have an X-ray that shows that? Or are you just assuming they're fused because? What did your doctor say?
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
September 04 2012 05:47 GMT
#1740
It's been 11 years, so I don't quite remember what my dictor said. I do remember them considering intentionally breaking my wrist again so it could heal correctly, so I'll just assume that went along with them agreeing they were fused. Not surgically, the bones were touching as they were healing or something, if that makes sense.. I know nothing on the subject.

My brother is a massage therapist, focuses on injuries and whatnot. A few months ago he gave me a treatment, and he spent like 10 minutes feeling my wrist because he said it's so weird, something hes never felt before
Refer to my post.
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