• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 00:36
CET 06:36
KST 14:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book15Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)12Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker8PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)12Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2
StarCraft 2
General
Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth Mutation # 510 Safety Violation
Brood War
General
ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 Gypsy to Korea Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War Recent recommended BW games [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Sex and weight loss
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ADHD And Gaming Addiction…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2062 users

TL Health and Fitness Initiative 2011 - Page 682

Forum Index > Sports
Post a Reply
Prev 1 680 681 682 683 684 730 Next
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 18 2011 02:05 GMT
#13621
Whoever suggested to drink lots of chocolate milk for source of protein...

I drank 3 liters in two hours... I'm forced to stay at my house now for the day.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
November 18 2011 03:16 GMT
#13622
it is nice isnt it
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20143 Posts
November 18 2011 03:44 GMT
#13623
On November 18 2011 05:53 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 05:09 rEiGN~ wrote:
On November 18 2011 05:03 glurio wrote:
There is nothing wrong with high bar squats.


Apparently there is if you go down the low bar style which SS has taught me.

http://vimeo.com/4772650
That was a really good video. I used to always do high bar but after watching that video I think I'll switch to low-bar, I want more emphasis on my ass and hamstrings, I don't care about transfer to cleans/jerks and all that stuff.


a) don't you dare talk shit about my beloved high bar squats just cause i like putting the bar on my big traps i got from oly lifting
b) ass and hamstrings...comes from deadlifts
c) care more about clean/jerks. they are awesome and basically define athleticism (apart from maybe vertical rise and raw speed) if i could do one lift for the rest of my life it would be clean and jerk.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
November 18 2011 04:48 GMT
#13624
On November 18 2011 12:44 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 05:53 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
On November 18 2011 05:09 rEiGN~ wrote:
On November 18 2011 05:03 glurio wrote:
There is nothing wrong with high bar squats.


Apparently there is if you go down the low bar style which SS has taught me.

http://vimeo.com/4772650
That was a really good video. I used to always do high bar but after watching that video I think I'll switch to low-bar, I want more emphasis on my ass and hamstrings, I don't care about transfer to cleans/jerks and all that stuff.


a) don't you dare talk shit about my beloved high bar squats just cause i like putting the bar on my big traps i got from oly lifting
b) ass and hamstrings...comes from deadlifts
c) care more about clean/jerks. they are awesome and basically define athleticism (apart from maybe vertical rise and raw speed) if i could do one lift for the rest of my life it would be clean and jerk.


a) Yes sir.
b) Note taken. When I'm on the lock-out phase of the deadlift am I supposed to squeeze my glutes to the point where I could crack open a walnut?
c) I don't care much about athleticism since I don't do boxing or wrestling anymore, I just want to get muscular and strong. Also I'm surprised clean and jerk is your favorite, I thought it was known that bear-fighting is the best?
I <3 Plexa.
Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
November 18 2011 04:58 GMT
#13625
I don't have enough time since a few days ago for my hour long runs and I was also thinking of doing some strength training instead (since it uses more energy/builds muscle) but I don't own any exercise equipment and don't have easy access to a gym, what would be the best way to do this?
LOUD NOISES!!!
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
November 18 2011 05:37 GMT
#13626
On November 17 2011 09:49 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 09:44 decafchicken wrote:
On November 17 2011 09:35 eshlow wrote:
OMG I'm soooooo happy I'm almost done with my book. lol. Almost a weight off my shoulders


Pun intended? :D

Can't wait for it!!


lol, I'm not sure if any of you guys wanna buy it though. It's about bodyweight training and it's gonna be about 529 pages long and 50 bucks on amazon

So you pretty much really need to be invested in bodyweight training to want to buy it.... unless you just wanna support me. :p (which I would gratefully accept of course)

More information here if you guys wanna check out table of contents and whatnot:

http://eatmoveimprove.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=54


wow congratz!
does Appendix B: Exercise pictorial descriptions, techniques, & tips 275 also show the progressions for each of them?
eg for like complete noobies who want to learn how to do the manna.
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
November 18 2011 07:22 GMT
#13627
On November 18 2011 13:58 Lorken wrote:
I don't have enough time since a few days ago for my hour long runs and I was also thinking of doing some strength training instead (since it uses more energy/builds muscle) but I don't own any exercise equipment and don't have easy access to a gym, what would be the best way to do this?

Gym/barbell is really mindblowingly good. If this REALLY isn't an option, you could look into bodyweight training. A honored member of le community is finishing up his book; it's about 50$ and deals with absolutely everything you need to know to get into bodyweight training.

Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 09:56:08
November 18 2011 09:55 GMT
#13628
On November 18 2011 16:22 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 13:58 Lorken wrote:
I don't have enough time since a few days ago for my hour long runs and I was also thinking of doing some strength training instead (since it uses more energy/builds muscle) but I don't own any exercise equipment and don't have easy access to a gym, what would be the best way to do this?

Gym/barbell is really mindblowingly good. If this REALLY isn't an option, you could look into bodyweight training. A honored member of le community is finishing up his book; it's about 50$ and deals with absolutely everything you need to know to get into bodyweight training.



Hmm I might have to look into getting a barbell when I move into a bigger house. Also, is cardio not very good when you want to gain muscle? I tend to do a lot these days (cut back on running) but last week I did: 2km swim one day and 12km run four days. The only strength training I get is press ups/crunches on alternating days and do pull ups after my run, which doesn't feel like very much compared to all the deadlifts/squats/etc. that everyone else here does.

Might have to try some planches this week but I feel like I'm not strong enough for stuff like that . Need more motivation.
LOUD NOISES!!!
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
November 18 2011 10:06 GMT
#13629
On November 18 2011 07:37 GoTuNk! wrote:
Above picture seems a good bar position.

Today's workout:

Squat: 165kg x2x2 (PR)
BP: 97,5x2x2, 107,5x2x2, 117,5kg x1 (PR)

So today I did 2 PR, and also fixed the issue of my ass going up during Bench Presses. Powerlifting meet is next saturday, can't wait. I'll be really happy if I can deadlift bodyweight x3 (225kg) (also if I win, I need like 530-580kg total for that though).

My quad pain, which seemed to be severe, turned out to be nothing. My right knee feels a bit weird last 10 days or so but fuck it, i'll deload and fix that next week.

Also on Squats i'm wearing knee wraps, dunno if we should count them on the PR thread. Here are the videos:

Squat:
+ Show Spoiler +



BP:



dude you are so freaking strong!
I failed 110kg fs last wednesday and then only went for 160kg deadlift... bad nutrition and lack of sleep seems to catch up with me (also, I've gained a bit of weight even though I feel like I hardly ever eat probably should clean up my diet again as i've kinda fell off the paleo wagon too)
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 10:15:47
November 18 2011 10:11 GMT
#13630
On November 18 2011 07:37 GoTuNk! wrote:
Above picture seems a good bar position.

Today's workout:

Squat: 165kg x2x2 (PR)
BP: 97,5x2x2, 107,5x2x2, 117,5kg x1 (PR)

So today I did 2 PR, and also fixed the issue of my ass going up during Bench Presses. Powerlifting meet is next saturday, can't wait. I'll be really happy if I can deadlift bodyweight x3 (225kg) (also if I win, I need like 530-580kg total for that though).

My quad pain, which seemed to be severe, turned out to be nothing. My right knee feels a bit weird last 10 days or so but fuck it, i'll deload and fix that next week.

Also on Squats i'm wearing knee wraps, dunno if we should count them on the PR thread. Here are the videos:

Squat:
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZLNqZf_n1Y

BP:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nyFBtzTsTI


dude you are so freaking strong! mad props. youre probably gonna totally RAPE at that competition best of luck!

I failed 110kg fs last wednesday and then only went for 160kg deadlift... bad nutrition and lack of sleep seem to catch up with me (also, I've gained a bit of weight even though I feel like I hardly ever eat probably should clean up my diet again as i've kinda fell off the paleo wagon too)

On November 18 2011 18:55 Lorken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 16:22 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
On November 18 2011 13:58 Lorken wrote:
I don't have enough time since a few days ago for my hour long runs and I was also thinking of doing some strength training instead (since it uses more energy/builds muscle) but I don't own any exercise equipment and don't have easy access to a gym, what would be the best way to do this?

Gym/barbell is really mindblowingly good. If this REALLY isn't an option, you could look into bodyweight training. A honored member of le community is finishing up his book; it's about 50$ and deals with absolutely everything you need to know to get into bodyweight training.



Hmm I might have to look into getting a barbell when I move into a bigger house. Also, is cardio not very good when you want to gain muscle? I tend to do a lot these days (cut back on running) but last week I did: 2km swim one day and 12km run four days. The only strength training I get is press ups/crunches on alternating days and do pull ups after my run, which doesn't feel like very much compared to all the deadlifts/squats/etc. that everyone else here does.

Might have to try some planches this week but I feel like I'm not strong enough for stuff like that . Need more motivation.


no, cardio is not very good when you want to gain muscle. thats what SS and GOMAD are there for.
planches are pretty hard, so dont feel too bad if you cant do one. if you are interested in that kinda stuff, there is some good information about bodyweight exercises in the OP and the general training thread.
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
November 18 2011 10:21 GMT
#13631
On November 18 2011 09:43 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 08:40 sJarl wrote:
Solid stuff GoTunk! Only thing I'd point out is that your back leans so much forward in your squat...

But GL on the meet! What openers are you going to post?

Also, knee wraps are allowed in (most) raw federations so I don't see why they should be a problem on your PR board


Ya, I tend to squat-morning really heavy stuff. Gonna work on that for next cycle (and after a bunch of front squats I have never done)

I wanna open with 170 on SQ, 120 on BP and 210 on deadlift (that way I can try 225 on 2nd attempt and go for the miracle on the 3rd)


Wouldn't going for 120 opener on the BP a bit optimistic? Would suck so hard if you bombed out on it and wouldn't get a total...
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
November 18 2011 11:12 GMT
#13632
Sick bench press... GoTunk!
http://www.twitch.tv/advocadosc2
rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
November 18 2011 12:02 GMT
#13633
High bar squat, basically no hip drive.

TL.net Stream Viewer Count http://goo.gl/ahf1E
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
November 18 2011 13:27 GMT
#13634
On November 18 2011 21:02 rEiGN~ wrote:
High bar squat, basically no hip drive.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy7ySniQAR8


much more impressive video here:
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
November 18 2011 15:40 GMT
#13635
man i feel so fuckin ill and tired all the time grrrrr, any food makes me feel sick at the thought, i went and bought chips and waffles and pizzas the other day just coz the shitty artificially enhanced taste of them was the only thing i could bare to eat. just turned the lights off and collapsed face-down on my bed sinking into oblivion, then started fantasising about a girl, made her come several times, then started thinking about power cleans, now im back up 5 mins later ready to hit the gym (or at least a lot more ready than i was ) . feel weak as SHITTTT but here we go motherfuckers
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
November 18 2011 15:45 GMT
#13636
Got a question for all y'all who have experience with 5/3/1. Hopefully someone does!

Am I supposed to be basing my lifts off 90% of my 1RM or basing it off 95% of my 1RM after the first four starting weeks?

I'm finding conflicting advice; some say to go 90% the entire time your own 5/3/1, and others are saying that after the first four weeks, you switch to 95% of your 1RM.
Victory Loves Preparation
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20143 Posts
November 18 2011 16:39 GMT
#13637
lol @ ffg
On November 18 2011 22:27 Zafrumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 21:02 rEiGN~ wrote:
High bar squat, basically no hip drive.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy7ySniQAR8


much more impressive video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=3xFm9q1HBKY&feature=fvwp


he did 800 here
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
November 18 2011 17:11 GMT
#13638
On November 19 2011 00:45 Catch wrote:
Got a question for all y'all who have experience with 5/3/1. Hopefully someone does!

Am I supposed to be basing my lifts off 90% of my 1RM or basing it off 95% of my 1RM after the first four starting weeks?

I'm finding conflicting advice; some say to go 90% the entire time your own 5/3/1, and others are saying that after the first four weeks, you switch to 95% of your 1RM.


Test your max, take 90% of it and use that as your working max => you calculate all your working weights from that number.

After each cycle (4 weeks) add 2,5/5kg to that total and recalculate.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 18 2011 17:39 GMT
#13639
On November 18 2011 14:37 jjhchsc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 09:49 eshlow wrote:
On November 17 2011 09:44 decafchicken wrote:
On November 17 2011 09:35 eshlow wrote:
OMG I'm soooooo happy I'm almost done with my book. lol. Almost a weight off my shoulders


Pun intended? :D

Can't wait for it!!


lol, I'm not sure if any of you guys wanna buy it though. It's about bodyweight training and it's gonna be about 529 pages long and 50 bucks on amazon

So you pretty much really need to be invested in bodyweight training to want to buy it.... unless you just wanna support me. :p (which I would gratefully accept of course)

More information here if you guys wanna check out table of contents and whatnot:

http://eatmoveimprove.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=54


wow congratz!
does Appendix B: Exercise pictorial descriptions, techniques, & tips 275 also show the progressions for each of them?
eg for like complete noobies who want to learn how to do the manna.


Yes. Pictures and progressions
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
November 18 2011 18:19 GMT
#13640
On November 18 2011 19:21 sJarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 09:43 GoTuNk! wrote:
On November 18 2011 08:40 sJarl wrote:
Solid stuff GoTunk! Only thing I'd point out is that your back leans so much forward in your squat...

But GL on the meet! What openers are you going to post?

Also, knee wraps are allowed in (most) raw federations so I don't see why they should be a problem on your PR board


Ya, I tend to squat-morning really heavy stuff. Gonna work on that for next cycle (and after a bunch of front squats I have never done)

I wanna open with 170 on SQ, 120 on BP and 210 on deadlift (that way I can try 225 on 2nd attempt and go for the miracle on the 3rd)


Wouldn't going for 120 opener on the BP a bit optimistic? Would suck so hard if you bombed out on it and wouldn't get a total...


Ya gonna decide on that on monday, when I do 117,5 again. However that PR single was done after my bench wrokout, so I think I won't have any problem .

I also noticed than my shins are almost vertical at the bottom of the squat, making me squat-morning though.
Prev 1 680 681 682 683 684 730 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
HomeStory Cup 28 - Group B
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
PianO 242
Leta 193
zelot 24
Icarus 12
League of Legends
JimRising 762
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King76
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor89
Other Games
summit1g8460
C9.Mang0572
WinterStarcraft412
Tasteless141
RuFF_SC2115
ViBE71
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Diggity2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1092
• Rush1064
• Stunt494
Upcoming Events
Escore
4h 25m
LiuLi Cup
5h 25m
Serral vs Zoun
Cure vs Classic
Big Brain Bouts
11h 25m
ByuN vs GgMaChine
Serral vs Jumy
RSL Revival
21h 25m
RSL Revival
1d 2h
LiuLi Cup
1d 5h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 6h
RSL Revival
1d 12h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
LiuLi Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
OSC
3 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-10
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Escore Tournament S1: W8
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.