On February 04 2011 00:33 vicariouscheese wrote: So I know I'm several months premature, but I've been looking at the "After Starting Strength" section (bodybuilding/hypertrophy; I don't play sports anymore and I really am just doing this for looks ) and the 20 rep squats looks awesomely intense.
Had my first miss ever yesterday. It was strange because it happened on my *first* set of squats (got 4 reps, missed 5th), so I was all wtfuuuu- then when the second set came around, I realized I actually put 240lbs instead of 230 -_- Proceeded to pound out 2x5, so I will increase to 235, but I think I might be hitting my first stall 5 weeks in. Awesome Might also be stalling on the press at 110lbs, depending on how the next 2 press workouts go.
Also excited to switch to the original SS workout with powercleans once my shoes arrive :D
You could do powerlifting...just saying. It helps for the looks aswell.
The 20 rep squat is a thing you try once and if you put the correct amount of weight on the bar you finish it but never ever want to do it again.
Don't worry about the stalling, just eat/sleep more and load up a bit more caffine and carbs pre-workout
On February 04 2011 00:33 vicariouscheese wrote: So I know I'm several months premature, but I've been looking at the "After Starting Strength" section (bodybuilding/hypertrophy; I don't play sports anymore and I really am just doing this for looks ) and the 20 rep squats looks awesomely intense.
Had my first miss ever yesterday. It was strange because it happened on my *first* set of squats (got 4 reps, missed 5th), so I was all wtfuuuu- then when the second set came around, I realized I actually put 240lbs instead of 230 -_- Proceeded to pound out 2x5, so I will increase to 235, but I think I might be hitting my first stall 5 weeks in. Awesome Might also be stalling on the press at 110lbs, depending on how the next 2 press workouts go.
Also excited to switch to the original SS workout with powercleans once my shoes arrive :D
You could do powerlifting...just saying. It helps for the looks aswell.
The 20 rep squat is a thing you try once and if you put the correct amount of weight on the bar you finish it but never ever want to do it again.
Don't worry about the stalling, just eat/sleep more and load up a bit more caffine and carbs pre-workout
No worries, I'm happy to be stalling- will make me focus more on food and rest. I'm pretty sure I'm not eating as much (or right ratios of protein:veggies:etc) as I should, will have to start with the fitday
If I do the 20rep squat program I would do a whole cycle- but yeah definitely sounds like doing suicides and such. Always had a love/hate relationship with those.
Honestly I'm not even sure I will be able to do powercleans at my gym(s) yet, as they're commercial with no bumper plates, and probably wouldn't be happy with the excessive dropping of weights that comes with powerlifting When I finish SS I will be considering powerlifting because I know I'd have fun doing it, but I will admit I'm not interested in looking like a tree trunk Seeing the people here doing olympic lifts has me dispelling that notion though, with proper eating and such.
My gym is a commercial dump hole, and I still do my power cleans, just try not to drop the weight from high up in the air, and you'll be fine.
That said, I'm thinking about changing gyms, too much douches and stuff there, and well, they take up 40mins into the squat rack to do pussy squats and to brag about how much they can squat, without actually squatting for shit.
Yesterday I saw a guy who's like ripped as shit and brags a lot, he did squats with 110kg. Using a belt, and with help, and not even going 3inches down, and I'm not even kidding. ;p.
bah. fuck commercial gyms, I'll start searching for bumper plates and buying my own squat rack and end this shit. POWERLIFTING FOR THE MOTHERFUCKING WIN.
On February 04 2011 02:42 funkie wrote: That said, I'm thinking about changing gyms, too much douches and stuff there, and well, they take up 40mins into the squat rack to do pussy squats and to brag about how much they can squat, without actually squatting for shit.
Hahaha, to be honest, the only person I have yet to see do a full proper squat in my gym has been a girl with 25's on the barbell. I see thick guys get under the vag pad all the time and slowly creep out a set of 10 going down maybe half a foot, with a nice rounded back. Disgusting. I can only assume what's going through their head: "Man, eff this. Give me my dumbbells, I got a straight half hour of curling to do."
I try and make a point of it by going in afterward, ripping off the pad and throwing it at the base of the mirror. I haven't spit on it yet, but it'd be the proper final touch imo.
On February 04 2011 02:42 funkie wrote: That said, I'm thinking about changing gyms, too much douches and stuff there, and well, they take up 40mins into the squat rack to do pussy squats and to brag about how much they can squat, without actually squatting for shit.
Hahaha, to be honest, the only person I have yet to see do a full proper squat in my gym has been a girl with 25's on the barbell. I see thick guys get under the vag pad all the time and slowly creep out a set of 10 going down maybe half a foot, with a nice rounded back. Disgusting. I can only assume what's going through their head: "Man, eff this. Give me my dumbbells, I got a straight half hour of curling to do."
I try and make a point of it by going in afterward, ripping off the pad and throwing it at the base of the mirror. I haven't spit on it yet, but it'd be the proper final touch imo.
rofl no shit.
Everytime I see the vag pad used, I take it off and kick it frontside of the squat rack. That'll show them..;D
Yesterday I gave tips to a dude, who was doing squats and whatnot, he wasn't deep squatting, but his knees were "closing" when he lifted, I told him to extend his stance and showed him the rippetoe way.
On February 04 2011 00:33 vicariouscheese wrote: So I know I'm several months premature, but I've been looking at the "After Starting Strength" section (bodybuilding/hypertrophy; I don't play sports anymore and I really am just doing this for looks ) and the 20 rep squats looks awesomely intense.
Had my first miss ever yesterday. It was strange because it happened on my *first* set of squats (got 4 reps, missed 5th), so I was all wtfuuuu- then when the second set came around, I realized I actually put 240lbs instead of 230 -_- Proceeded to pound out 2x5, so I will increase to 235, but I think I might be hitting my first stall 5 weeks in. Awesome Might also be stalling on the press at 110lbs, depending on how the next 2 press workouts go.
Also excited to switch to the original SS workout with powercleans once my shoes arrive :D
You could do powerlifting...just saying. It helps for the looks aswell.
The 20 rep squat is a thing you try once and if you put the correct amount of weight on the bar you finish it but never ever want to do it again.
Don't worry about the stalling, just eat/sleep more and load up a bit more caffine and carbs pre-workout
No worries, I'm happy to be stalling- will make me focus more on food and rest. I'm pretty sure I'm not eating as much (or right ratios of protein:veggies:etc) as I should, will have to start with the fitday
If I do the 20rep squat program I would do a whole cycle- but yeah definitely sounds like doing suicides and such. Always had a love/hate relationship with those.
Honestly I'm not even sure I will be able to do powercleans at my gym(s) yet, as they're commercial with no bumper plates, and probably wouldn't be happy with the excessive dropping of weights that comes with powerlifting When I finish SS I will be considering powerlifting because I know I'd have fun doing it, but I will admit I'm not interested in looking like a tree trunk Seeing the people here doing olympic lifts has me dispelling that notion though, with proper eating and such.
I'm too scared of my poor eating habits to start using fitday....
But going for a powerlifting oriented training has nothing to do with dropping plates. Just lower the weight carefully and focus on getting as strong as humanly possible.
If your back hurts excessively while squatting, then chances are good you aren't flexing your upper back muscles sufficiently to "pad" your skeleton. When you grip the bar, you must keep your hands in toward the body as closely as possible while gripping the bar BEFORE you unrack the bar and start squatting.
In other words, get under the bar, bring your hands in as closely as possible along the bar, grip the bar with a thumbless grip, lift your elbows back and up, and step under the weight. By keeping your hands close and your elbows back and up, the muscles of your entire shoulder girdle, as well as your trapezius muscles, will all "bunch/hunch up", which will provide significant padding for the bar. Ensure the bar is kept in the "low bar position" at the lower-rear portion of your traps and rear deltoids, and you should be fine.
The main problem with the pad, in addition to making you look like a wuss, is that it tends to throw the center of gravity off. For an experienced trainee, this won't be a problem, they can compensate (and they probably wouldn't ask to use a pad anyway). For a novice trainee, this can be VERY detrimental to proper technique and balance development inherent in the learning process of the squat. So, all joking aside, the pad might help your upper shoulders "feel better" while squatting, but once you get to heavy weight, that little pad won't do jack squat, except for throw off your technique! If you have a shoulder injury, then the pad won't help at all. Look into using a Buffalo Bar, a Safety Squat Bar, or a Manta Ray
On February 04 2011 08:17 RowdierBob wrote: I'm assuming the 'vag pad' is the thing you use on squats to cushion the bar?
I'm a vag pad user What's with all the hate? Is it really that bad?
Lets put it this way. I will bitch slap anyone I know using the vag pad because they don't deserve the amount of effort it would take for me to knock them out.
On February 04 2011 08:17 RowdierBob wrote: I'm assuming the 'vag pad' is the thing you use on squats to cushion the bar?
I'm a vag pad user What's with all the hate? Is it really that bad?
Yes it is that bad. Learn to place it on your posterior delts. (Read Starting Strength for example)
Did a restet on my flat bench and going to do 5x5 up to around 90-95kg and finally break the 100kg barrier. Today's workout:
BB Bench Press: 5 sets of 75kg x 5 Close-Grip BP: 2 sets of 60kg x 5, 2 sets of 70kg x 5 and 75kg x 4 reps. 4 reps is too low so I did it again and ripped out 6 reps. Pretty nice.
Finished up with Dragonflags (sooooo close to get it without a break in the hips!) and some dips. Will try to get a vid next time i do dragonflags .
EDIT:
@Decaf: 63-7 is bad...but so is copious amounts of beer post-workout.