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4thHatchery
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Finland125 Posts
August 12 2011 10:01 GMT
#9861
Sometimes I feel so sorry for all the helpful people here.
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
August 12 2011 12:01 GMT
#9862
On August 12 2011 09:10 Fortis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 09:07 eshlow wrote:
On August 12 2011 08:33 Fortis wrote:
On August 12 2011 08:28 eshlow wrote:
On August 12 2011 08:22 Fortis wrote:
On August 12 2011 08:16 eshlow wrote:
Phyre112 reaffirmed my understanding that I must fix my diet to help gain definition in the ab area. I don't count calories but I honestly don't eat much. I have started eating much healthier starting last week. My usual diet is milk + cereal (not the unhealthy sort) in the morning, usually a meat like sausage with salad in the evening, and snacks of raw vegetables or fruit in between. My weaknesses are the occasional vitaminwater and I usually have ice cream 2-3 times a week >> but overall I'd say my calorie intake is below 2000 daily, if I had to take a guess.


What cereal is healthy? lol. Cereals are all sugars.

Ditch the cereal, eat more protein. Eggs are a good option. Eat protein every meal.

Ditch all drinks except water, tea, coffee, and milk if you are not allergic.


We tell you to lift heavy because it will add stimulus for muscle. Combined with a solid diet this can help you drop fat/add muscle at the same time.

People want to look for "defined and toned" both of which are garbage words. Getting more "toned" or ripped or whatever you want to call it is composed of either gaining muscle or losing fat. So.... you tell me what is going to work?

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/08/the-relationship-between-diet-and-exercise/


P.S. Ignore charts based on BMI. Everyone is different and will have different goals... although being super skinny with abs isn't really appealing to look at nor is being super huge I guess.... although the super huge football players don't look half bad either

Like... those sugarless musli(?) I think they are called? No? Nuuuu ): Cereal is the only way I can handle milk vv;

I don't eat eggs... Can I have meat instead? If not, what should I eat instead?

But, how is lifting heavy different from lifting less weight more often? Would it not help achieve my goal? If not, what would be considered 'heavy' for my weight. or is it a trial-and-error type situation?

I read the link you posted when I first read this thread ^^; From it I got that I must eat healthy to achieve my goal of maintaining my weight. But, your question right before it is what I have been trying to say - I guess I would rather lose fat than gain muscle? So, from what I've read, I should do more cardio and maintain a healthy diet yes?

About your edit, like I said I am not 'super-skinny' and I think I would definitely benefit from having nicer abs and wouldn't look like a barrel of bones ^^ thanks!


Meat works.... meat, birds, fish,... whatever type of dead animals float your boat.

Lifting heavier weights = stimulus for muscle, and helps you lose minimal amounts of fat.
Lifting lighter weights = endurance... which helps you gain minimal muscle, and lose minimal amounts of fat
Cardio helps you lose minimal amounts of fat.

Remember, Losing/gaining weight IS IN THE KITCHEN!

To improve body composition you want to gain muscle and/or lose fat. Both are done in the kitchen, and lifting heavier weights is easier to add muscle with

"How heavy" about 5-8 repetitions are considered about optimal for adding muscle mass.

Starting Strength in the OP utilizes a 3x5 set/rep scheme with constantly adding weight to help you gain muscle.

Okay, so I have to eat protein with every meal now, got it. Eating meat that isn't bacon is weird for breakfast, would a protein shake/supplement work? If yes, which would you recommend?

Thanks for the lifting/diet explanation btw.

5-8 reps in 1 set? Or 3 sets of 8 like I am doing now?

EDIT: Just caught your edit, yes I do have those beliefs. In terms of 'cereal', this is similar to what I eat:

http://www.seitenbacher.com/Seitenbacher_Muesli_Organic/MUESLI-ORGANIC.htm

What is wrong with this cereal would you say? Do I really have to stop eating it for best effect?

Thanks for answering my many many noob questions!


If you have to eat it it's on the better side of things but yeah... I prefer no grains. Go grain free for 30 days and see if you feel better.

Get strong with core lifts man.... I think you would do well on SS.

Okay thank you, I will see how I am doing in a week or two (it is too early to judge my progress after only 5 days of new diet xD) and then if anything I know where to turn (: Thanks a lot to everyone for your help!

@phyre112 thanks for your help and responses as well, like I said above I will see how my progress is with what I am doing now after the listed recommendations and if it's not working out I will definitely try SS.


if your bodyfat percentage is really below 10% (which somehow I doubt if you dont have a defined 6 pack ) you might want to consider this article as well: http://www.leangains.com/2010/06/intermittent-fasting-and-stubborn-body.html

gl!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Fortis
Profile Joined August 2011
Estonia63 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 13:33:55
August 12 2011 13:33 GMT
#9863
On August 12 2011 21:01 Zafrumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 09:10 Fortis wrote:
On August 12 2011 09:07 eshlow wrote:
On August 12 2011 08:33 Fortis wrote:
On August 12 2011 08:28 eshlow wrote:
On August 12 2011 08:22 Fortis wrote:
On August 12 2011 08:16 eshlow wrote:
Phyre112 reaffirmed my understanding that I must fix my diet to help gain definition in the ab area. I don't count calories but I honestly don't eat much. I have started eating much healthier starting last week. My usual diet is milk + cereal (not the unhealthy sort) in the morning, usually a meat like sausage with salad in the evening, and snacks of raw vegetables or fruit in between. My weaknesses are the occasional vitaminwater and I usually have ice cream 2-3 times a week >> but overall I'd say my calorie intake is below 2000 daily, if I had to take a guess.


What cereal is healthy? lol. Cereals are all sugars.

Ditch the cereal, eat more protein. Eggs are a good option. Eat protein every meal.

Ditch all drinks except water, tea, coffee, and milk if you are not allergic.


We tell you to lift heavy because it will add stimulus for muscle. Combined with a solid diet this can help you drop fat/add muscle at the same time.

People want to look for "defined and toned" both of which are garbage words. Getting more "toned" or ripped or whatever you want to call it is composed of either gaining muscle or losing fat. So.... you tell me what is going to work?

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/08/the-relationship-between-diet-and-exercise/


P.S. Ignore charts based on BMI. Everyone is different and will have different goals... although being super skinny with abs isn't really appealing to look at nor is being super huge I guess.... although the super huge football players don't look half bad either

Like... those sugarless musli(?) I think they are called? No? Nuuuu ): Cereal is the only way I can handle milk vv;

I don't eat eggs... Can I have meat instead? If not, what should I eat instead?

But, how is lifting heavy different from lifting less weight more often? Would it not help achieve my goal? If not, what would be considered 'heavy' for my weight. or is it a trial-and-error type situation?

I read the link you posted when I first read this thread ^^; From it I got that I must eat healthy to achieve my goal of maintaining my weight. But, your question right before it is what I have been trying to say - I guess I would rather lose fat than gain muscle? So, from what I've read, I should do more cardio and maintain a healthy diet yes?

About your edit, like I said I am not 'super-skinny' and I think I would definitely benefit from having nicer abs and wouldn't look like a barrel of bones ^^ thanks!


Meat works.... meat, birds, fish,... whatever type of dead animals float your boat.

Lifting heavier weights = stimulus for muscle, and helps you lose minimal amounts of fat.
Lifting lighter weights = endurance... which helps you gain minimal muscle, and lose minimal amounts of fat
Cardio helps you lose minimal amounts of fat.

Remember, Losing/gaining weight IS IN THE KITCHEN!

To improve body composition you want to gain muscle and/or lose fat. Both are done in the kitchen, and lifting heavier weights is easier to add muscle with

"How heavy" about 5-8 repetitions are considered about optimal for adding muscle mass.

Starting Strength in the OP utilizes a 3x5 set/rep scheme with constantly adding weight to help you gain muscle.

Okay, so I have to eat protein with every meal now, got it. Eating meat that isn't bacon is weird for breakfast, would a protein shake/supplement work? If yes, which would you recommend?

Thanks for the lifting/diet explanation btw.

5-8 reps in 1 set? Or 3 sets of 8 like I am doing now?

EDIT: Just caught your edit, yes I do have those beliefs. In terms of 'cereal', this is similar to what I eat:

http://www.seitenbacher.com/Seitenbacher_Muesli_Organic/MUESLI-ORGANIC.htm

What is wrong with this cereal would you say? Do I really have to stop eating it for best effect?

Thanks for answering my many many noob questions!


If you have to eat it it's on the better side of things but yeah... I prefer no grains. Go grain free for 30 days and see if you feel better.

Get strong with core lifts man.... I think you would do well on SS.

Okay thank you, I will see how I am doing in a week or two (it is too early to judge my progress after only 5 days of new diet xD) and then if anything I know where to turn (: Thanks a lot to everyone for your help!

@phyre112 thanks for your help and responses as well, like I said above I will see how my progress is with what I am doing now after the listed recommendations and if it's not working out I will definitely try SS.


if your bodyfat percentage is really below 10% (which somehow I doubt if you dont have a defined 6 pack ) you might want to consider this article as well: http://www.leangains.com/2010/06/intermittent-fasting-and-stubborn-body.html

gl!

I have a 5-pack... 4 on top, pouch on the bottom (what he says here: "Stubborn fat is the fat you need to lose for a good four-and-a-half-pack to turn into a six-pack.") T-T; I read the article but I didn't quite understand, he talked about a lot of numbers and hour ranges... From what I understood, 12-16 hour fasting schedules work to help me get rid of this stubborn fat... What I did not understand is:

Do I still work out during the first 12 hours of this fast or after the 16 hours as I usually do or do I not need to bother? He recommends walking/doing certain reps in the 12-16 hour zone but is that the only exercise I should do that day, or should I do more later?

Anyways, this is pretty much exactly what I was looking for. As I said to others, I will see if what I am doing now yields any progress, and then I will try this, probably before SS because it seems more direct to my needs and is also close to my grasp (I have a habit of not eating much sometimes x_x;).

Thank you!

On August 12 2011 19:01 4thHatchery wrote:
Sometimes I feel so sorry for all the helpful people here.

Yea... I came in here thinking that it was probably over and done but so much drama o_o;
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
August 12 2011 15:42 GMT
#9864
@Fortis: Should answer what you need to know

http://www.leangains.com/2010/04/leangains-guide.html

I Follow the "eat one meal before, workout, then eat, then fast"

This will give you an outline of multiple types of IF and even some other fasting protocols (eat stop eat, warrior diet, ect) can be found in the "brief primer" link at the start of the article. The one I believe most recommend by martin is fasted training in the morning (BCAAs taken beforehand) and then eat followed by a fast; repeat.
Victory Loves Preparation
Fortis
Profile Joined August 2011
Estonia63 Posts
August 12 2011 16:13 GMT
#9865
On August 13 2011 00:42 Catch wrote:
@Fortis: Should answer what you need to know

http://www.leangains.com/2010/04/leangains-guide.html

I Follow the "eat one meal before, workout, then eat, then fast"

This will give you an outline of multiple types of IF and even some other fasting protocols (eat stop eat, warrior diet, ect) can be found in the "brief primer" link at the start of the article. The one I believe most recommend by martin is fasted training in the morning (BCAAs taken beforehand) and then eat followed by a fast; repeat.

Awesome! Thanks a lot, sorry I'm a noob at finding what I need because I don't understand what any of these terms are (they are mostly artificial words like 'leangain' I think...).

I read up on BCAAs, they sound legit and something I'd be willing to purchase. What are your (and anyone else's) recommendations in terms of brands/types? I see many many available online, I have no clue what to choose. Author recommends 'Xtend' and 'Purple Wraath'.

I also read his suggested pills or whatever, my friend has been taking omega-3, fish-oil, calcium and vitamin d supplements for a while so I think I'll jump on those as well. Thanks for the help!
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 16:44:17
August 12 2011 16:42 GMT
#9866
On August 13 2011 01:13 Fortis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 00:42 Catch wrote:
@Fortis: Should answer what you need to know

http://www.leangains.com/2010/04/leangains-guide.html

I Follow the "eat one meal before, workout, then eat, then fast"

This will give you an outline of multiple types of IF and even some other fasting protocols (eat stop eat, warrior diet, ect) can be found in the "brief primer" link at the start of the article. The one I believe most recommend by martin is fasted training in the morning (BCAAs taken beforehand) and then eat followed by a fast; repeat.

Awesome! Thanks a lot, sorry I'm a noob at finding what I need because I don't understand what any of these terms are (they are mostly artificial words like 'leangain' I think...).

I read up on BCAAs, they sound legit and something I'd be willing to purchase. What are your (and anyone else's) recommendations in terms of brands/types? I see many many available online, I have no clue what to choose. Author recommends 'Xtend' and 'Purple Wraath'.

I also read his suggested pills or whatever, my friend has been taking omega-3, fish-oil, calcium and vitamin d supplements for a while so I think I'll jump on those as well. Thanks for the help!


"Leangains" is a term for his specific program of eating - it's a subset within a style called "intermittent Fasting" which as the name implies, means you fast for a little while, and then eat for a little while. There are other systems like the "warrior diet" which iirc is just eating one meal a day.

I got a tub of the Xtend stuff in a deal at a local store a while back - I don't personally train fasted though, so when I take it I don't notice any difference at all. There's no extra energy, no "pump" like most people describe other more expensive pre workout formulas. What it does have, is a great taste (blue raspberry) and, according to the label a large amount of BCAA's for pretty cheap. So if that's what you're looking for to start on leangains, try it out.

I'll also note that the leangains guy definitely recommends working out... he's posted in this thread even, hundreds of pages ago. Full body 3x/week (SS), eating soon after you workout and taking BCAA's before.
Fortis
Profile Joined August 2011
Estonia63 Posts
August 12 2011 17:10 GMT
#9867
On August 13 2011 01:42 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 01:13 Fortis wrote:
On August 13 2011 00:42 Catch wrote:
@Fortis: Should answer what you need to know

http://www.leangains.com/2010/04/leangains-guide.html

I Follow the "eat one meal before, workout, then eat, then fast"

This will give you an outline of multiple types of IF and even some other fasting protocols (eat stop eat, warrior diet, ect) can be found in the "brief primer" link at the start of the article. The one I believe most recommend by martin is fasted training in the morning (BCAAs taken beforehand) and then eat followed by a fast; repeat.

Awesome! Thanks a lot, sorry I'm a noob at finding what I need because I don't understand what any of these terms are (they are mostly artificial words like 'leangain' I think...).

I read up on BCAAs, they sound legit and something I'd be willing to purchase. What are your (and anyone else's) recommendations in terms of brands/types? I see many many available online, I have no clue what to choose. Author recommends 'Xtend' and 'Purple Wraath'.

I also read his suggested pills or whatever, my friend has been taking omega-3, fish-oil, calcium and vitamin d supplements for a while so I think I'll jump on those as well. Thanks for the help!


"Leangains" is a term for his specific program of eating - it's a subset within a style called "intermittent Fasting" which as the name implies, means you fast for a little while, and then eat for a little while. There are other systems like the "warrior diet" which iirc is just eating one meal a day.

I got a tub of the Xtend stuff in a deal at a local store a while back - I don't personally train fasted though, so when I take it I don't notice any difference at all. There's no extra energy, no "pump" like most people describe other more expensive pre workout formulas. What it does have, is a great taste (blue raspberry) and, according to the label a large amount of BCAA's for pretty cheap. So if that's what you're looking for to start on leangains, try it out.

I'll also note that the leangains guy definitely recommends working out... he's posted in this thread even, hundreds of pages ago. Full body 3x/week (SS), eating soon after you workout and taking BCAA's before.

Ah, it all comes together now. I feel much enlightened. Thank you once again! I'll post in here in a few weeks after I check my progress.
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
August 12 2011 17:17 GMT
#9868
On August 13 2011 01:13 Fortis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 00:42 Catch wrote:
@Fortis: Should answer what you need to know

http://www.leangains.com/2010/04/leangains-guide.html

I Follow the "eat one meal before, workout, then eat, then fast"

This will give you an outline of multiple types of IF and even some other fasting protocols (eat stop eat, warrior diet, ect) can be found in the "brief primer" link at the start of the article. The one I believe most recommend by martin is fasted training in the morning (BCAAs taken beforehand) and then eat followed by a fast; repeat.

Awesome! Thanks a lot, sorry I'm a noob at finding what I need because I don't understand what any of these terms are (they are mostly artificial words like 'leangain' I think...).

I read up on BCAAs, they sound legit and something I'd be willing to purchase. What are your (and anyone else's) recommendations in terms of brands/types? I see many many available online, I have no clue what to choose. Author recommends 'Xtend' and 'Purple Wraath'.

I also read his suggested pills or whatever, my friend has been taking omega-3, fish-oil, calcium and vitamin d supplements for a while so I think I'll jump on those as well. Thanks for the help!


No problem, always willing to help out people who want to change and are willing to listen as well. I don't take BCAAs nor have I read anything on them since I don't take them. I'd listen to phyree and the author (martin's) recommendation, they won't lead you wrong. Personally I know many people here take fish oil and vitamin D. I took vitamin D myself and never felt better, but no fish oil. So it is up to you.

Yeah, some of it is confusing. One thing I hate about nearly any industry is how hard it is to just find the basics and then go out from there. Which is why I love the communities like this.

The TLHF will get you fit, mofoooooo.
Victory Loves Preparation
DimmuKlok
Profile Joined June 2010
United States225 Posts
August 12 2011 17:29 GMT
#9869
On June 18 2011 05:52 DimmuKlok wrote:
Hello everyone!

I reached my weight loss goal that I set for myself when I originally posted in this thread(Although I forgot to be specific). My goal was to reach 250lbs by June and I'm at 247lbs as of today. That's 33lbs lost since I started posting here and 63lbs lost total.

Since I've reached my initial goal and I'm still not satisfied yet, I'm going to make my next goal to be 220lbs before September.


Hello everyone, I'm back again with another update.

I quoted my last update for convenience. As of today I am 219.5lbs, meaning I reached my goal of hitting 220 by September! I'm very happy about this achievement. That's 90.5lbs lost so far from when I started in mid December at 310lbs.

I'm still not quite done, though. My next goal is to be 200lbs by Jan 1st of 2012. This goal I wasn't even sure could happen. When I first started losing weight I really only wanted to see if I could get to 250lbs, and if I could, then try to get to 230. Here I am at 219.5 and I'm looking at 200 being the ultimate goal. I have no idea what I'll look like when I do reach 200 because I've been overweight for so many years, but I'm eager to find out.

As for pictures, I don't have any right this moment but I do plan on uploading some. I will probably upload some before my next update (200 lbs) and for sure by Nov when everyone's supposed to post pictures. ^^

Thanks for reading everyone, and good luck with your own goals!
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
August 12 2011 17:34 GMT
#9870
On August 13 2011 02:29 DimmuKlok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 05:52 DimmuKlok wrote:
Hello everyone!

I reached my weight loss goal that I set for myself when I originally posted in this thread(Although I forgot to be specific). My goal was to reach 250lbs by June and I'm at 247lbs as of today. That's 33lbs lost since I started posting here and 63lbs lost total.

Since I've reached my initial goal and I'm still not satisfied yet, I'm going to make my next goal to be 220lbs before September.


Hello everyone, I'm back again with another update.

I quoted my last update for convenience. As of today I am 219.5lbs, meaning I reached my goal of hitting 220 by September! I'm very happy about this achievement. That's 90.5lbs lost so far from when I started in mid December at 310lbs.

I'm still not quite done, though. My next goal is to be 200lbs by Jan 1st of 2012. This goal I wasn't even sure could happen. When I first started losing weight I really only wanted to see if I could get to 250lbs, and if I could, then try to get to 230. Here I am at 219.5 and I'm looking at 200 being the ultimate goal. I have no idea what I'll look like when I do reach 200 because I've been overweight for so many years, but I'm eager to find out.

As for pictures, I don't have any right this moment but I do plan on uploading some. I will probably upload some before my next update (200 lbs) and for sure by Nov when everyone's supposed to post pictures. ^^

Thanks for reading everyone, and good luck with your own goals!

Congratulations mate :D Keep going strong, you can do it!
Sup.
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
August 12 2011 17:40 GMT
#9871
Curious if anyone has any experience/knowledge of this;
Whenever i do straight barbell curls with heavy weights (still strict form) i get this really sharp pain in my left forearm, right between elbow and wrist (I believe it's called the Ulna bone?), in the bone at the opposite side of my thumb.
I had this issue a few months ago, but it was WAY more intense back then and the most severe right after I put the weight down. I got rid of it by just not doing curls for a few weeks and have now worked my way back up.
The pain I have now is not that bad, and haven't been getting worse since I felt it again, but I'm really worried It'll get back since it fucked up my progress by a lot. Oh, and It's only with barbell curls, not with dumbbells.
I've been thinking, since It's only my left arm and my right arm is a lot stronger than my left (trying to fix this), it might be because the muscles in my left forearm is not able to handle the weight, and therefore puts unnecessary strain on the bone itself. Also, when it was really bad before I got rid of it it was at a lower weight than what I lift now, so something must have changed.

Any other thoughts or should I just try to workout my left forearm more?
Thanks
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
August 12 2011 17:45 GMT
#9872
On August 13 2011 02:40 Sneakyz wrote:
Curious if anyone has any experience/knowledge of this;
Whenever i do straight barbell curls with heavy weights (still strict form) i get this really sharp pain in my left forearm, right between elbow and wrist (I believe it's called the Ulna bone?), in the bone at the opposite side of my thumb.
I had this issue a few months ago, but it was WAY more intense back then and the most severe right after I put the weight down. I got rid of it by just not doing curls for a few weeks and have now worked my way back up.
The pain I have now is not that bad, and haven't been getting worse since I felt it again, but I'm really worried It'll get back since it fucked up my progress by a lot. Oh, and It's only with barbell curls, not with dumbbells.
I've been thinking, since It's only my left arm and my right arm is a lot stronger than my left (trying to fix this), it might be because the muscles in my left forearm is not able to handle the weight, and therefore puts unnecessary strain on the bone itself. Also, when it was really bad before I got rid of it it was at a lower weight than what I lift now, so something must have changed.

Any other thoughts or should I just try to workout my left forearm more?
Thanks

If you think there is an imbalance avoid biceps curls for now and focus on strengthening your wrists, ESPECIALLY your extensors.

Might not be a bad idea to self massage the forearm muscles to break up any scar tissues or adhesions that may be there
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Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
August 12 2011 18:16 GMT
#9873
Hm. How important is glycemic index when it comes to carbs and pre-workout nutrition. This handy dandy infographic (http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1abSvj/www.greatist.com/health/the-complete-guide-to-workout-nutrition) seems to place a big emphasis on it, but I've never really read anything on it.

So basically, Ideally you want a high GI carb during barbell work so that you have constant levels of energy from the glucose being released?

Or does it not really even matter that much?
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glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
August 12 2011 18:31 GMT
#9874
On August 13 2011 02:45 eshlow wrote:
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On August 13 2011 02:40 Sneakyz wrote:
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Curious if anyone has any experience/knowledge of this;
Whenever i do straight barbell curls with heavy weights (still strict form) i get this really sharp pain in my left forearm, right between elbow and wrist (I believe it's called the Ulna bone?), in the bone at the opposite side of my thumb.
I had this issue a few months ago, but it was WAY more intense back then and the most severe right after I put the weight down. I got rid of it by just not doing curls for a few weeks and have now worked my way back up.
The pain I have now is not that bad, and haven't been getting worse since I felt it again, but I'm really worried It'll get back since it fucked up my progress by a lot. Oh, and It's only with barbell curls, not with dumbbells.
I've been thinking, since It's only my left arm and my right arm is a lot stronger than my left (trying to fix this), it might be because the muscles in my left forearm is not able to handle the weight, and therefore puts unnecessary strain on the bone itself. Also, when it was really bad before I got rid of it it was at a lower weight than what I lift now, so something must have changed.

Any other thoughts or should I just try to workout my left forearm more?
Thanks

If you think there is an imbalance avoid biceps curls for now and focus on strengthening your wrists, ESPECIALLY your extensors.

Might not be a bad idea to self massage the forearm muscles to break up any scar tissues or adhesions that may be there


^ This.
I got the same thing, stretching the wrist also helped. Never got rid of it completely though.
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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
August 12 2011 19:12 GMT
#9875
Here is a good video on how to eat healthy:
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
August 12 2011 19:54 GMT
#9876
I'll start working on my wrists right away, thanks eshlow and glurio .
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
bdictkam
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada155 Posts
August 12 2011 20:22 GMT
#9877
On August 12 2011 17:42 Malinor wrote:
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On August 12 2011 15:36 bdictkam wrote:
In my opinon body shock value is were its at, its best to do some weeks with high reps that reach fatigue in a decent timeframe, and some weeks with low reps that reach fatigue.

Its my hypothesis that people that just do low reps never get the hardest kind of looking muscle cause they body gets used to it, and people who jsut do high reps never get beyond a platue because of the same effect. Shocking your body is probably the highest important thing! This is just an educated guess... Works for cardio so why not weight training

esholw your link is someone asking peoples opinons, the link i posted is a scientific cycle that was done... lol the most scientific thing in yours was "tension in the muscle creates need for more".. which is what u can accomplish by reaching fatigue and the whole idea of your link is that you need to add weight periodicly or you wont gain, which is the same thing as shocking your system.

So idealy i think you should, change up rep counts, and every so often try to add a little weight :D thats the opinon ive gained from multiple perspectives ive learned, take it or leave it, i am not a pro


You linked a 3 minute video with a pretty graph and a hot chick in it for christs sake

"Body shock value"
"fatigue"
"hardest kind of looking muscle"

All you do is broscience here. You spill some shitty terms around like if they would mean anything. You just lack any decent understanding of what you are talking about, and the way you disregarded eshlow's link is speaking volumes.
I am not saying everything you are saying is wrong. I.e. high reps/low reps can complement each other pretty well and both can be used efficiently. So changing things up is always good, but that is so trivial that it actually should go without saying.
In other words, you have to do more research before you claim to know anything in here. And acefitness.org is probably not the place where you should start looking.


Pretty graph and hot chick? You are ignorant as shit. Ive done tons of research, and u can plz dont claim to know how much research ive been doing and if u want to downplay an actual scientist compared to your sheeps view of how things are go ahead. If anything you lack understanding. And ace fitness just had that reported linked/reported you complete numbskull, doesnt mean it was carried out by them. Narrowminded.

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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20078 Posts
August 12 2011 20:26 GMT
#9878
eshlow..I've had a shooting pain in my left trap/upper back when I do random things, reaching down to pick shit up and other things. it goes away pretty quick though and I've been able to do Olympic lifting without too much inconvenience. it feels muscular and pretty sure it happened when I ran the ball into a couple guys playing rugby a couple weeks ago, figured it'd be gone by now. should I just rice it?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
August 12 2011 20:28 GMT
#9879
On August 13 2011 05:22 bdictkam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 17:42 Malinor wrote:
On August 12 2011 15:36 bdictkam wrote:
In my opinon body shock value is were its at, its best to do some weeks with high reps that reach fatigue in a decent timeframe, and some weeks with low reps that reach fatigue.

Its my hypothesis that people that just do low reps never get the hardest kind of looking muscle cause they body gets used to it, and people who jsut do high reps never get beyond a platue because of the same effect. Shocking your body is probably the highest important thing! This is just an educated guess... Works for cardio so why not weight training

esholw your link is someone asking peoples opinons, the link i posted is a scientific cycle that was done... lol the most scientific thing in yours was "tension in the muscle creates need for more".. which is what u can accomplish by reaching fatigue and the whole idea of your link is that you need to add weight periodicly or you wont gain, which is the same thing as shocking your system.

So idealy i think you should, change up rep counts, and every so often try to add a little weight :D thats the opinon ive gained from multiple perspectives ive learned, take it or leave it, i am not a pro


You linked a 3 minute video with a pretty graph and a hot chick in it for christs sake

"Body shock value"
"fatigue"
"hardest kind of looking muscle"

All you do is broscience here. You spill some shitty terms around like if they would mean anything. You just lack any decent understanding of what you are talking about, and the way you disregarded eshlow's link is speaking volumes.
I am not saying everything you are saying is wrong. I.e. high reps/low reps can complement each other pretty well and both can be used efficiently. So changing things up is always good, but that is so trivial that it actually should go without saying.
In other words, you have to do more research before you claim to know anything in here. And acefitness.org is probably not the place where you should start looking.


Pretty graph and hot chick? You are ignorant as shit. Ive done tons of research, and u can plz dont claim to know how much research ive been doing and if u want to downplay an actual scientist compared to your sheeps view of how things are go ahead. If anything you lack understanding. And ace fitness just had that reported linked/reported you complete numbskull, doesnt mean it was carried out by them. Narrowminded.

Do you claim to know how much research the other posters in this thread have done? ^_^
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
bdictkam
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada155 Posts
August 12 2011 20:29 GMT
#9880
On August 13 2011 02:29 DimmuKlok wrote:
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On June 18 2011 05:52 DimmuKlok wrote:
Hello everyone!

I reached my weight loss goal that I set for myself when I originally posted in this thread(Although I forgot to be specific). My goal was to reach 250lbs by June and I'm at 247lbs as of today. That's 33lbs lost since I started posting here and 63lbs lost total.

Since I've reached my initial goal and I'm still not satisfied yet, I'm going to make my next goal to be 220lbs before September.


Hello everyone, I'm back again with another update.

I quoted my last update for convenience. As of today I am 219.5lbs, meaning I reached my goal of hitting 220 by September! I'm very happy about this achievement. That's 90.5lbs lost so far from when I started in mid December at 310lbs.

I'm still not quite done, though. My next goal is to be 200lbs by Jan 1st of 2012. This goal I wasn't even sure could happen. When I first started losing weight I really only wanted to see if I could get to 250lbs, and if I could, then try to get to 230. Here I am at 219.5 and I'm looking at 200 being the ultimate goal. I have no idea what I'll look like when I do reach 200 because I've been overweight for so many years, but I'm eager to find out.

As for pictures, I don't have any right this moment but I do plan on uploading some. I will probably upload some before my next update (200 lbs) and for sure by Nov when everyone's supposed to post pictures. ^^

Thanks for reading everyone, and good luck with your own goals!


That is awsome and inspirational, what to write up a bit how youve done it? I am on a simliar road to you just didnt start nearly as fat haha..
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