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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
April 23 2011 16:40 GMT
#3881
On April 24 2011 01:35 Levistus wrote:
can i use the lat pulldown bar for chin ups? like chin ups width and chin ups hold position? cause i don't have a chin up bar.


You can usually chin on a squat rack or deck or tree branch or something like that.

Lat pulldown is inferior to chins/pullups
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
April 23 2011 16:41 GMT
#3882
Red meat super meta analysis

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-3010.2010.01871.x/full

Lots of confounding factors in a lot of the studies (like not differentiating between processed and unprocessed meat which obviously makes a difference).

Overall though,

"There is no evidence that a moderate intake of lean red meat, when consumed as part of a healthy balanced diet, has any negative health effects."

And at least the vege/vegan thread went away.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Levistus
Profile Joined December 2009
1134 Posts
April 23 2011 16:44 GMT
#3883
On April 24 2011 01:40 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 01:35 Levistus wrote:
can i use the lat pulldown bar for chin ups? like chin ups width and chin ups hold position? cause i don't have a chin up bar.


You can usually chin on a squat rack or deck or tree branch or something like that.

Lat pulldown is inferior to chins/pullups

can i do chin ups on a bar set in squat height? i don't have a squat rack that has a chin up bar.
hey man just curious
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
April 23 2011 18:47 GMT
#3884
On April 24 2011 01:44 Levistus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 01:40 eshlow wrote:
On April 24 2011 01:35 Levistus wrote:
can i use the lat pulldown bar for chin ups? like chin ups width and chin ups hold position? cause i don't have a chin up bar.


You can usually chin on a squat rack or deck or tree branch or something like that.

Lat pulldown is inferior to chins/pullups

can i do chin ups on a bar set in squat height? i don't have a squat rack that has a chin up bar.


Sure....

but can't you just use the top of the squat rack frame to do pullups? Most cage squat racks have a bar up top or at least part of the frame you can hold onto?
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 19:43:52
April 23 2011 19:34 GMT
#3885
Did first set yesterday. Was amazing. Will start again on monday

I'm doing standard SS without powercleans (physician)

barbell rows are acceptable: what exercise should I replace the powercleans with?
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 20:08:27
April 23 2011 20:07 GMT
#3886
FUK, failed today.

Squat - 275lbs (+10): 4-3-3
Deadlift - 305lbs (+10): 2-1-1-1-1

Didn't feel the strength to do benches so wussed out

Dumbell Flies: 35lbsx10, 40lbsx5, 40lbsx5
Dumbell Press: 40lbsx5
Pullups: BWx8 (+4)

Factors contributing to failure:
1) Lack of rest (been getting ~5 hours of sleep the last few days)
2) Lack of recovery (Maxing out on Powercleans on thursday midnight)
3) Lack of proper shoes (inexcusable)
4) Being in a rack I hate - the one below, b/c I don't feel freedom of movement in it.
[image loading]


Gonna think about taking a light week to recover, or soemthing along those lines...
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
April 23 2011 20:13 GMT
#3887
I hate those racks too. For some reason with my exact height and bar positioning I either have to stand almost on tip-toes or bend down too much to put the bar back. It's so awkward.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
April 23 2011 20:33 GMT
#3888
I don't feel any soreness. Should I at all?
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
April 23 2011 20:40 GMT
#3889
For the 20th time: no, you shouldnt worry about soreness. All that matters is the weight on the bar.
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
April 23 2011 21:20 GMT
#3890
Soreness is not indicative of progress, either by you having it or not hving it. The only way you'll be able to tell you are making progress is if you lift more next week than you did this week.

Pain is another matter. Distinguish between the two, and if you feel actual pain rather than fatigue/soreness, stop immediately and get it checked out.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 23 2011 21:22 GMT
#3891
What should I do if I'm starting to feel pain in my wrists from SS?
Slithe
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States985 Posts
April 23 2011 21:42 GMT
#3892
On April 24 2011 06:22 thedeadhaji wrote:
What should I do if I'm starting to feel pain in my wrists from SS?


RICE to start. I know that eshlow's site has recommendations for wrist strengthening, but you might want to rest them for a little bit before endeavoring in such things.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
April 23 2011 21:42 GMT
#3893
Depends on what the pain resulted from. Maybe it is something that has to do with your form.

My wrists hate me on pressing days since I suck at keeping them steady.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
April 23 2011 22:14 GMT
#3894
I am training in the same rack as haji basically... and god, I hate this thing. If you wanna use the safety of the rack you have like 10cm in both directions, or you are squatting outside the cage/ hitting the pins in front of you with the plates. And the pins are at a very unfortunate height for me, have to perform a quarter squat everytime to get the bar out of there. The next higher pin is like 2cm to high for me. Ah well, what can you do, I guess I have to move to another place with a better gym nearby^^

Squat 155x3x5 today (very hard) and Deadlift 160x5 (decent). So all in all a good workout. Tried to Bench with the Smith Machine, but my shoulder was not convinced. I have been doing a lot of shoulder dislocations lately and I felt that they helped quite a bit, but if so, it's not enough until now to bench again. At least Dips are possible, that's a start.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
sawedust
Profile Joined December 2010
United States506 Posts
April 23 2011 22:38 GMT
#3895
On April 24 2011 01:35 Levistus wrote:
can i use the lat pulldown bar for chin ups? like chin ups width and chin ups hold position? cause i don't have a chin up bar.


What I used to do was find a doorway and hold on to the frame for chinups. Alternatively you can find a horizontal pole (like one to hang clothes on), go to a playground with bars, etc.
Kojaimea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom277 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 23:08:39
April 23 2011 23:07 GMT
#3896
I'm interested. My fitness regime consists of 80% cardio/fatburn/interval exercises on my bike, or in the gym on the rower and cross trainer, and only 20% weight training. This thread seems geared heavily towards an emphasis on weight training, and specifically free weights which I almost entirely ignore...

What are the advantages and disadvantages of the regimes outlined in this thread, compared to my current one?
The riverbed, dried-up, half full of leaves. Us, listening to a river in the trees.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
April 23 2011 23:11 GMT
#3897
On April 24 2011 08:07 Kojaimea wrote:
I'm interested. My fitness regime consists of 80% cardio/fatburn/interval exercises on my bike, or in the gym on the rower and cross trainer, and only 20% weight training. This thread seems geared heavily towards an emphasis on weight training, and specifically free weights which I almost entirely ignore...

What are the advantages and disadvantages of the regimes outlined in this thread, compared to my current one?


What exactly are you doing currently?

what people refer to as "cardio" and "intervals" can have drastically different meanings
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
April 23 2011 23:14 GMT
#3898
You actually end up looking muscular instead of skinny when using "our" program.

Fat loss is mainly reached in the kitchen and while cardio certainly helps out it doesn't give anything for building muscle.

Weightlifting on the other hand will build muscle and with certain lifts (or added cardio sessions) plus a good diet you get all three: muscles, good cardio-vascular fitness and leanness.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 23:15:22
April 23 2011 23:15 GMT
#3899
ketogenic diet reversing kidney failure for diabetics?

http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0018604


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13134292

lol@ BBC article jabs at ketogenic diet

"Diabetes UK said it was "questionable" whether humans could sustain the diet."

"The highly controlled diet, which is 87% fat, mimics the effect of starvation and should not be used without medical advice."

"Dr Iain Frame, director of research at Diabetes UK, said: "This research was carried out in mice so it is difficult to see how these results would translate into any real benefits for people with diabetes at this stage.

"It is too simple to say that kidney failure could be prevented by diet alone and it is also questionable whether the diet used in this model would be sustainable for humans, even in the short term."


Funnily enough... ketogenic can reverse diabetes altogether IF the damage done to various organs is not too severe. But these comments are pretty hilarious since it's like the "diabetes organizations" didn't know about ketogenic diets beforehand?

Come on now. It's just ignorance. The traditional diabetes diets actually probably cause diabetes.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Maxwell3
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States88 Posts
April 23 2011 23:19 GMT
#3900


Must watch for all the oly lifters!
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