EPTTL Health and Fitness Initiative 2011 - Page 19
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terr13
United States298 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20163 Posts
On January 11 2011 10:49 terr13 wrote: What's wrong with soy-based products like tofu? They promote estrogen. Probably other stuff that i could google but thats the main one i've heard. | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9376 Posts
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
5'8''- 137 lbs 180 lb deadlift (not max, just training weight) ------ By 5/1/2011 150 lbs 225 deadlift | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On January 11 2011 11:25 decafchicken wrote: They promote estrogen. Probably other stuff that i could google but thats the main one i've heard. I drink quite a bit of soy milk, so I'm interested in this as well. This article is pro-soy; it outlines some of the proposed dangers and reproves each point: http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/soymessina | ||
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decafchicken
United States20163 Posts
On January 11 2011 12:03 Jerubaal wrote: 1/10/2011 5'8''- 137 lbs 180 lb deadlift (not max, just training weight) ------ By 5/1/2011 150 lbs 225 deadlift You'll hit that by the end of the month on starting strength. By may you could ez be at 275-300 | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
On January 11 2011 12:05 decafchicken wrote: You'll hit that by the end of the month on starting strength. By may you could ez be at 275-300 That would be nice, but I'm not starting off fresh and grip is going to be a major issue. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On January 11 2011 12:41 Jerubaal wrote: That would be nice, but I'm not starting off fresh and grip is going to be a major issue. Mixed grip and chalk, grip will never be an issue again  | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On January 11 2011 12:05 Cambium wrote: I drink quite a bit of soy milk, so I'm interested in this as well. This article is pro-soy; it outlines some of the proposed dangers and reproves each point: http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/soymessina Soy is classed in legumes which Paleo eschews. Like wheat and other plants they have proteins in them with potential autoimmune activity and such. http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=235 That's obviously not to mention the phytoestrogens. I think the verdicts are still inconclusive on phytoestrogens but it's probably best to avoid those in general just in case. Heavily processed soy products aren't like the fermented stuff they would eat in asian countries.... and most asian country people don't eat that much soy anyway | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On January 11 2011 09:09 Cambium wrote: I have about one hour every day, which is not enough for me on some days. Are there advantages for working out three times a week (SS) versus, say, five times a week: same (if not more) amount of exercises just more spread out? Well, it's best to use recovery days as recovery. It's possible to spread it out fine but I would go more towards a 4x a week schedule and do maybe 2 of the lifts each day and on a MTRF schedule or something like that if you can. If that's too low volume maybe add in an extra lift or practice for something you want to learn like oly | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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TheBoogeyMan
United States17 Posts
Just eat it, it won't make you get female hormones or any bullshit. It has a very good protein/carb ratio, but not a ton of calories. If you are trying to lose weight, it is very good. If you are trying to gain weight, you are better off drinking a ton of milk or something similar. | ||
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unknown.sam
Philippines2701 Posts
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Horrde
Canada302 Posts
On January 11 2011 10:02 Liquid`Tyler wrote: This is pretty far down the line for you but... I think that once you get going, you should focus on running faster, not farther. 5k and 10k are good distances to race at and to train for. There are two dimensions to running, speed and endurance. 5k is a decent combo of both. 10k is getting kinda slow for any runner who isn't really serious about their training (pro 10k runners can run fast as hell) but 5k is a bit too short to really feel like an endurance race. So doing some of both is a good compromise. A half marathon, and especially a marathon, are just completely lacking speed. Basically the only thing going for marathons is the baseless popular opinion of "running longer is better". Training for 5k/10k is better for overall fitness imo, it's more challenging and diverse training, and they're more fun races. There are people that should run marathons because it's truly their personal preference. But if that's not you, don't do them! Once you've been training for 5k/10k for a while, you can pop out 26.2 one day without much inconvenience anyway, just to say you've done it. Or you can run a marathon ASAP, then recover and start training for a faster 5k/10k, not a faster marathon. I mostly disagree a lot with this post. I've competed in countless 5ks, 10ks, half marathons, and soon to be 6 marathons. Focusing on distance is often emphasized first before speed when beginning training, either coming from "a couch method" or from the off-season. 5ks and 10ks are generally more fun to run, especially among youths, because it's easier mentally while not too draining at the end. Many people will often not even consider a mental or strategic side to running. There definitely is, and this usually gets more complex the longer the run. It should be right up there with your speed and endurance dimensions. What I really disagree with is that half and full marathons are completely lacking speed. I can't believe you would say some of these things. A world class 10ker will finish in sub 28 minutes. Do you know how much world class marathoners finish their races? Sub 2 hr 10 minutes. Often their first 10k (less than a quarter of their race) is paced at 30 minutes! It really looks like your making excuses for marathons simply because they cannot compete with a 10ker, so they went to a farther distance to train for in hopes of success. "Popping out" a marathon while only training for 5ks/10ks? Have you tried this? With 5k and 10k training, the body will be heavily depleted by the 25k or the 30k mark, and your dogging it the final 12k or more. Go to any mass running event that are open to the public and you will see the half marathon (21.1k) is often the most popular for this reason. You can train for smaller distances, complete it, and finish without the mental battle a full marathon will give. I really don't think you've practiced what you preach. It's all in training: 5 and 10's are normally run on track and require a heavy emphasis on Fartlek training for speed, flexibility, and half track timings. Marathons are run on roads and terrain, with hill training, distance emphasis, and some Fartlek for small overall speed increases. If fitness is a concern, I'd stick with the 10k, but it is in no way more or less challenging. When getting serious, you cannot train for a 5k/10k and a marathon at the same time. Widespread Rule #1 for the marathon: don't run one ASAP! | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9376 Posts
On January 11 2011 21:35 unknown.sam wrote: had no idea there were so many links in the OP lol. finally i'll be able to form some sort of foundation with regards to diet/nutrition. at least now i won't be so bored at work. Really it should be mandatory for all of us posting in this thread to at least take a good glimpse a those articles. They´ll make you smarter :D | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On January 11 2011 22:37 Horrde wrote: I mostly disagree a lot with this post. I've competed in countless 5ks, 10ks, half marathons, and soon to be 6 marathons. Focusing on distance is often emphasized first before speed when beginning training, either coming from "a couch method" or from the off-season. 5ks and 10ks are generally more fun to run, especially among youths, because it's easier mentally while not too draining at the end. Many people will often not even consider a mental or strategic side to running. There definitely is, and this usually gets more complex the longer the run. It should be right up there with your speed and endurance dimensions. What I really disagree with is that half and full marathons are completely lacking speed. I can't believe you would say some of these things. A world class 10ker will finish in sub 28 minutes. Do you know how much world class marathoners finish their races? Sub 2 hr 10 minutes. Often their first 10k (less than a quarter of their race) is paced at 30 minutes! It really looks like your making excuses for marathons simply because they cannot compete with a 10ker, so they went to a farther distance to train for in hopes of success. "Popping out" a marathon while only training for 5ks/10ks? Have you tried this? With 5k and 10k training, the body will be heavily depleted by the 25k or the 30k mark, and your dogging it the final 12k or more. Go to any mass running event that are open to the public and you will see the half marathon (21.1k) is often the most popular for this reason. You can train for smaller distances, complete it, and finish without the mental battle a full marathon will give. I really don't think you've practiced what you preach. It's all in training: 5 and 10's are normally run on track and require a heavy emphasis on Fartlek training for speed, flexibility, and half track timings. Marathons are run on roads and terrain, with hill training, distance emphasis, and some Fartlek for small overall speed increases. If fitness is a concern, I'd stick with the 10k, but it is in no way more or less challenging. When getting serious, you cannot train for a 5k/10k and a marathon at the same time. Widespread Rule #1 for the marathon: don't run one ASAP! When you're a seasoned cross country runner like Tyler was in college with likely 12-13 years of training behind you it's pretty easy to pop off a marathon after you have countless 5k/10ks behind you because they have the huge aerobic base and training behind them. But in general, yeah, most of the people just starting up will not be able to do this. I don't think he sad anything about marathons et al lacking speed. 5k/10k/half mara/etc. are all extremely aerobic and 5k time is a good predictor of marathon time if you have the aerobic base behind you. That's why runners like Gebrselassie can come within a minute or two of WR times in each of the distances.... For people looking to get into distance running I would definitely suggest 5king max. | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
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Horrde
Canada302 Posts
A half marathon, and especially a marathon, are just completely lacking speed. That's the line that made me question his post in reason. Haile Gebrselassie... what to say about this man, he is an absolute horse. I had the pleasure of watching him run live a while ago and he is quite a monster, both physically and strategically. But he doesn't pick an event and run it, he focus trains for it beforehand. It's not like he runs 5k one day, and then a marathon the next week. Not if he wants to get close to his past times. The difference between world class A standard for a marathon compared to world class B standard is 4 minutes (I think), sub 2:10:00 to sub 2:14:00, but don't quote me on that. So even in a marathon, a minute or two difference is a pretty big time. A minute or two difference for a 5ker or 10ker? That's like a top dog in the event compared not being invited to race. Even so, his adaptability is pretty amazing. | ||
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EventHorizoN
Germany101 Posts
Age: 16|| Height: 185cm || Weight: 90kg (but 13% body fat) Starting Date: 2/12/2010 || Goal Date: 2/12/2011 Weight goals -- [Do the 75kg at the benche press (50 atm)] Training goals -- [] Nutrition goals -- [Stay in "The Zone" like in Barry Sears publications.] Misc goals -- [Get back into swimming, and getting as fit as i've never been before.] | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
Push Press: 50kg x 8, 60kg x 6 and 67,5kg x 7 Lateral Raises: 3 sets of 10kg x 8 DB Press: 15kg x 8 and 21kg x 7 BB Curl: 3 sets of 40kg x 6 Not the best workout ever but regarding my last days (heavy drinking, little eating and getting wisdom teeth pulled out yesterday) I can only be content. | ||
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