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On March 01 2010 14:29 Robinsa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2010 14:24 PanN wrote:On March 01 2010 11:42 Spo0ky wrote: weed smokers get out...you are hurting these people trying to stop. fuck off. ======================================================== and yes weed does cause memory loss, lowers libido, and fucks with your psychological state.
No it doesn't. I don't appreciate lying. Short term memory loss when being high, yes. But there is no evidence it permanently destroys your ability to retain information. About libido, nope. I get hornier than hell when high, so do multiple friends of mine. Yeah, sure fucks up your psychological state alright, I went from suicidal depression to having a great life. God, marijuana is so terrible I wish I was poor, unhappy, and friendless again. "weed smokers get out...you are hurting these people trying to stop. fuck off." I disagree, smoking marijuana is far healthier, and makes sense (it actually does something.) Plus, you can vaporize marijuana reducing the combustion by 98 - 99%. I wish all these people can quit, my father person is currently trying to quit, and my mother quit by smoking pot. So, um... yeah. I can only speak for myself but I wanna QUIT smoking, not replace it with something else. I don't see how I would be able to continue my life smoking pot 14 times a day for that matter either if I were to replace it.. ^^
I don't suggest it as an alternative or an idea, I simply know it worked for my mother. I suggest trying your best, thats all I can really say.
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you know they give pot to cancer patients. and its proven that weed has things that help prevent cancer? am i right? and you wont beable to smoke pot 14 times a day.. 2-3 depends on person i maybe do 1 bowl every two days.
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On March 01 2010 14:30 CaucasianAsian wrote: fuck i want to quit, but i just bought a carton. Why dont you just throw it then? I can personally only avoid to smoke during the day if I don't have ANY cigarette in the morning. If you don't think you can stop tonight take like 1 or2 cigarettes out of the box and throw the rest and then start with us tomorrow!?
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i successfully quit shortly after i learned that smoking decreases your overall mental speed, aside from the small boost you get shortly after smoking. lasts that way 1-2 months after quitting. so if you feel you have some excess brain power and want to bring it down to a more humble level then smoking is the answer for you.
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Dominican Republic463 Posts
smoked 1 today, about to smoke the other one before bed. I smoke on average, 10 a day. But have been looking to quit these last few weeks after I got a bad cold and just couldnt smoke for a few days. Had 2 days without smoking this weekend.. pretty sure I can quit if I can do this sporadically~~ gogo me! Gonna try these next 3-4 days no smoke see how it goes.s..
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UPDATE: Day 1
Only smoked 3 today. I can't say this is a great accomplishment. I resisted a few times, but my GF was over this weekend and i didn't want to be all moody and shit. Tomorrow or today, since its 1208 PST i'm going hardcore
How is everyone else doing?
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I've been smoke free for a month and a week now. I read Allen Carr's "The Easy Way To Stop Smoking" and it was actually easier than I thought to quit.
I would recommend this book to anyone trying to quit.
EDIT: You may ask me any questions and I will answer them, this book has rid me of the evil nicotine monster and it can do the same for you.
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I've quit after 2 years of smoking and I haven't touched a cigarette nor had any temptation to do so for over a year.
Although I'm constantly around ppl that smoke. And I didn't even quit because of my health or anything, 'cause I couldn't care less about that, but I just felt stupid that there was sth else controlling me other than myself. I've also quit drinking and smoking weed because of that.
It's really just about the mindset and determination. If you want to stop, you can, you just have to remind you that you want to stop and that you're the one that's controlling what you do/think/feel etc.
What your "opponent" is, are thoughts that make you change your opinion about the Goal to quit smoking, like: - "Well, It's not THAT important to quit smoking" OR - "I never really wanted to quit anyways"
Also, you could maybe convince yourself, that not smoking interferes with another Goal: - "I need to smoke because otherwise I can't concentrate and fail at my job" OR - "If I don't smoke, I can't go out with my friends anymore because they all smoke and I can't quit when everybody else smokes.... ikki ikki wääh wääh."
Sometimes you think you just HAVE TO SMOKE, but that's not the case - just do sth else and you'll notice that after a while, you're not thinking those things that much anymore, until you don't think about it at all.
Another important thing is, that you set specific goals, that you make plans for different scenarios that could be a problem etc. For example: - You know that your friends will be smoking and that this will tempt you to smoke as well. So, what are you gonna do in those Situations? Will you avoid them (not a good thing IMO, because sooner or later, you'll be confronted with sm1 that smokes near you) or will you distract yourself from the need to smoke with engaging in a interesting conversation or chewing a gum or sth like that.
It's mostly about breaking the habit and learning that in Situations you used to smoke, you don't have to smoke anymore. This is maybe the hardest part but just a matter of time and determination.
But I think, if sm1 wants to stop, he can, without nikotin-gum, some sort of bogus-hypnotherapy or avoiding any sort of temptation.
For me as a Psychology-Student, it mostly was about the experience. I didn't succomb the the feelings and thoughts of having to smoke a cigarette, because I knew that this stuff would happen and that there are strategies to deal with that, so I kinda looked at it from a distance, like an explorer that watches a devious wizard trying to make sm1 else do sth with cheap tricks. It really sometimes was amusing to see what "addiction" had in store for me next, to keep me smoking. ^^'
Oh and another thing: Forget about 12-stepping or anything. Every motivation-group that pretty much starts with saying: "admit that you don't have control over yourself" is extremely dangerous. Thats sth that is called "learned self-helplessness" in psychology and it leads to a very low success-rate in getting rid of the addiction and also it just replaces one addiction (drinking) with another addiction (going to these meetings for help, because you've learned in those meeting, that you're helpless if you try it alone).
So to conclude: Quitting smoking is all about YOU and YOU ALONE! I don't say you can't get advice from someone else or sth, but:
YOU ARE NOT DEPENDING ON OTHER PEOPLE OR OTHER DRUGS TO QUIT SMOKING!
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On March 01 2010 17:55 kickinhead wrote: I've quit after 2 years of smoking and I haven't touched a cigarette nor had any temptation to do so for over a year.
Although I'm constantly around ppl that smoke. And I didn't even quit because of my health or anything, 'cause I couldn't care less about that, but I just felt stupid that there was sth else controlling me other than myself. I've also quit drinking and smoking weed because of that.
It's really just about the mindset and determination. If you want to stop, you can, you just have to remind you that you want to stop and that you're the one that's controlling what you do/think/feel etc.
What your "opponent" is, are thoughts that make you change your opinion about the Goal to quit smoking, like: - "Well, It's not THAT important to quit smoking" OR - "I never really wanted to quit anyways"
Also, you could maybe convince yourself, that not smoking interferes with another Goal: - "I need to smoke because otherwise I can't concentrate and fail at my job" OR - "If I don't smoke, I can't go out with my friends anymore because they all smoke and I can't quit when everybody else smokes.... ikki ikki wääh wääh."
Sometimes you think you just HAVE TO SMOKE, but that's not the case - just do sth else and you'll notice that after a while, you're not thinking those things that much anymore, until you don't think about it at all.
Another important thing is, that you set specific goals, that you make plans for different scenarios that could be a problem etc. For example: - You know that your friends will be smoking and that this will tempt you to smoke as well. So, what are you gonna do in those Situations? Will you avoid them (not a good thing IMO, because sooner or later, you'll be confronted with sm1 that smokes near you) or will you distract yourself from the need to smoke with engaging in a interesting conversation or chewing a gum or sth like that.
It's mostly about breaking the habit and learning that in Situations you used to smoke, you don't have to smoke anymore. This is maybe the hardest part but just a matter of time and determination.
But I think, if sm1 wants to stop, he can, without nikotin-gum, some sort of bogus-hypnotherapy or avoiding any sort of temptation.
For me as a Psychology-Student, it mostly was about the experience. I didn't succomb the the feelings and thoughts of having to smoke a cigarette, because I knew that this stuff would happen and that there are strategies to deal with that, so I kinda looked at it from a distance, like an explorer that watches a devious wizard trying to make sm1 else do sth with cheap tricks. It really sometimes was amusing to see what "addiction" had in store for me next, to keep me smoking. ^^'
Oh and another thing: Forget about 12-stepping or anything. Every motivation-group that pretty much starts with saying: "admit that you don't have control over yourself" is extremely dangerous. Thats sth that is called "learned self-helplessness" in psychology and it leads to a very low success-rate in getting rid of the addiction and also it just replaces one addiction (drinking) with another addiction (going to these meetings for help, because you've learned in those meeting, that you're helpless if you try it alone).
So to conclude: Quitting smoking is all about YOU and YOU ALONE! I don't say you can't get advice from someone else or sth, but:
YOU ARE NOT DEPENDING ON OTHER PEOPLE OR OTHER DRUGS TO QUIT SMOKING!
darn, i was hoping you'd kick the habit for me
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Russian Federation4235 Posts
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On February 28 2010 18:00 nttea wrote:swedish snus! alot healthier than smoking.
+ Show Spoiler +
I tried snus once when I was drunk. It tasted pretty good and I felt "cool". However the day after I wanted more and the inside of my lip was burning (where you put the snus).
I wouldn't say I got addicted, but I liked it and wanted more and that's bad enough.
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On March 01 2010 02:18 Piste wrote: after 11 years I can't quit anymore. Well anyone can but I don't have enough motivation. :/ Gl to you tho.
My grandmother had smoked since she was 18 or younger and she stoped at the age of 70.
Don't give me that crap, man up dude
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I was able to stop smoking when I lived in Japan by putting a pack on a small table in the corner where I set up my futon every night. I had smoked (chain-smoking at times) for about 8 years. By putting it so close to me, I made it an issue of willpower. It was always there and I had to see it and remind myself that I wasn't doing this anymore. I did this when I was with company, when my wife was nearby, and when I was alone. Those were the hardest times to resist. In the end, by being able to resist and not smoke, when it would be so easy... when it was subtly in my face all the time, I became able to resist anytime anywhere.
I'm writing all this here because I'm hoping to inspire by example, and suggest a successful strategy.
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in a fraternity at UMASS with a lot of smokers.. so you can imagine how hard it is for me.. question before i start quitting.. is it ok to smoke pot? x_X
if not imma break the rules RIGHT NOW. wake and bake is my fav.
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On March 01 2010 10:12 sMi.MeOw wrote: is it just me or does nicotine gums make you wana poop? Regular chewing gum has a laxative effect so I imagine these ones do too if they are just regular gum but with something added.
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i heard you tend to sweat a lot more if you chew nicotine gum/ do snus
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Ever once in a while I have this crazy dream that I'm chain smoking and the rush of hot air is warming my chest comfortably. Which is weird 'cause I've never smoked a cigarette in my life.
It's okay, smokers can die from cancer, but I'll die six years before any of them because I'm certain my arteries are clogged anyway.
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Ok, I failed and had 2 cigarettes today. I had them in right after eachother so it was in one sitting so to speak. I've conciously avoided every trap possible today not to smoke and it worked until around 17.00 when I accidentally ran into a friend standing in a smoking area. I don't think theres much more to add than that I'll have to do better tomorrow! ^^
Anyone thought of a good way to communicate yet? Maybe someone of us could create a blog so we that we don't bump this thread every day. I don't know how to make blogs so I have to entrust it to someone else! ^^
On March 01 2010 21:55 Truenappa wrote: I was able to stop smoking when I lived in Japan by putting a pack on a small table in the corner where I set up my futon every night. I had smoked (chain-smoking at times) for about 8 years. By putting it so close to me, I made it an issue of willpower. It was always there and I had to see it and remind myself that I wasn't doing this anymore. I did this when I was with company, when my wife was nearby, and when I was alone. Those were the hardest times to resist. In the end, by being able to resist and not smoke, when it would be so easy... when it was subtly in my face all the time, I became able to resist anytime anywhere.
I'm writing all this here because I'm hoping to inspire by example, and suggest a successful strategy. I read this and the first thing that came to mind was: "OH, sounds great! Maybe I should go and buy a pack.. I guess it doesn't matter if I smoke one before I put it in the corner".... guess I'm not ready for that stuff yet !
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On March 01 2010 22:24 Robinsa wrote:Ok, I failed and had 2 cigarettes today. I had them in right after eachother so it was in one sitting so to speak. I've conciously avoided every trap possible today not to smoke and it worked until around 17.00 when I accidentally ran into a friend standing in a smoking area. I don't think theres much more to add than that I'll have to do better tomorrow! ^^ Anyone thought of a good way to communicate yet? Maybe someone of us could create a blog so we that we don't bump this thread every day. I don't know how to make blogs so I have to entrust it to someone else! ^^ Show nested quote +On March 01 2010 21:55 Truenappa wrote: I was able to stop smoking when I lived in Japan by putting a pack on a small table in the corner where I set up my futon every night. I had smoked (chain-smoking at times) for about 8 years. By putting it so close to me, I made it an issue of willpower. It was always there and I had to see it and remind myself that I wasn't doing this anymore. I did this when I was with company, when my wife was nearby, and when I was alone. Those were the hardest times to resist. In the end, by being able to resist and not smoke, when it would be so easy... when it was subtly in my face all the time, I became able to resist anytime anywhere.
I'm writing all this here because I'm hoping to inspire by example, and suggest a successful strategy. I read this and the first thing that came to mind was: "OH, sounds great! Maybe I should go and buy a pack.. I guess it doesn't matter if I smoke one before I put it in the corner".... guess I'm not ready for that stuff yet !
I made a blog for us to post our daily updates...
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=114263
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If you're really serious about quitting you should instantly start using nicotine gums instead. They won't help you get rid of the nicotine addiction but they will stop the nasty biproducts that cigarettes contain from poisoning your body.
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