This is not a discussion topic on whether you think women should run separate tournaments. This is a thread for the NESL Iron Lady events.
If you would like to sign up or wish them well or offer aid and support, this is the place. If you want to complain about the work they've put in or their message, don't. This is your warning. - Jibba 16:18PM EST / 05:18 KST
With much anticipation and some hard work, National Electronic Sports League (NESL) is proud to present our new Starcraft 2 section for female gamers: Iron Lady. It will be a place for high level tournament play and fun. Check all the latest news on up coming cups and leagues at ironladysc2.com or follow us on twitter @IronLadyESL!
The Vision To start off, some may be wondering, why a section only for girls? The vision behind the Iron Lady section is to provide a place for female gamers to thrive in a male dominated sport. The goal will be to provide the highest quality tournaments and leagues, so that the top female gamers can finally shine just as much as the top male gamers do with no intimidation. The idea was prompted to us by ESL EU Female Gaming in order to provide a tournament ground for western based female players. You have seen several successful cups from their end, and now we will provide the same.
Every month you will get to play in a cup and compete for cash prizes. They will run on Saturdays at an early afternoon time unless too many players are having an issue with the time. Top place finishes will receive the money prize and the recognition on the Iron Lady homepage. As popular and activity increases, more cups will be ran throughout the month. As the section grows you will find more events in higher frequency. Frequently check ironladysc2.com or subscribe to our forums to be the first to hear about any new upcoming events.
We can provide the system for you should you want to run your own female event! NESL Iron Lady can provide female cups, leagues, and ladders to anyone with a passion or a dream to run their own female event. If you request more information on this, please send an inquiry by clicking Here
The Community It is important that we build a community of motivated and strong gamers that is united. Our forums and events is not the only grounds for meeting up with the other female gamers of Starcraft 2. We invite you to like and join the facebook communities below to stay connected with other female gamers who share your passion and love of the game!
My name is Daniel Brooks, known as D4nny at NationalESL, and better known as pHaRSiDe.358 on battle.net. I head all SC2 operations at NESL. I am joined by Andrea Soto aka Yui , and is also known as Yui.183 on Battle.net. She is the Master League Admin of Iron Lady.
Not a female player but looking to help out? We are always looking for help! Join our staff by sending an application here
We are on the hunt for sponsor support and/or coverage partners for our organization. If your organization or company is looking to help out with prize support, merchandise support, or coverage please email me at D4nny@staff.esl-america.net
Nice to see female ESPORTS getting more attention. Especially with the ESL section and Facebook page you give easy access to Female gaming events with out to much hassle.
Western gender roles dictate that masculinity be expressed through competition. Competition, then, becomes the domain of men. Women who compete in sport must then be "father-didn't-love-me-enough" cases or "bull dykes" for the want for competition is not a quality seen as feminine. Men separate themselves from their peers through competition, women by cultivating and maintaining relationships. Video games have been, for the most part, designed by men for boys and men. If the goal is to grow the StarCraft 2 scene (read as: bigger market, more money, larger talent pool, mainstream exposure) beyond the typical demographic (teenaged/20 something males) then efforts must be made to reach out to those groups of people. Things like IronLady do just that.
Kind of stupid if you ask me. No offense to female gamers, but why should they get there own tournaments that exclude male players? Do tournaments exclude women from them? No. I think this is just meant to make female players stand out, but should they stand out if they aren't achieving results in normal tournaments?
On June 10 2011 06:12 Mikey wrote: Kind of stupid if you ask me. No offense to female gamers, but why should they get there own tournaments that exclude male players? Do tournaments exclude women from them? No. I think this is just meant to make female players stand out, but should they stand out if they aren't achieving results in normal tournaments?
Yeah, it's sad, but more tournaments is good I suppose, and it encourages female participation which the game does lack. I think it's sexist as hell, but oh well.
On June 10 2011 05:55 Zumm wrote: The few women playing professionally normally don't stand a chance against the male competitors.
That's not because men have a natural advantage though, they're probably just a lot more dedicated and practice more. This is not a game of physical strength or endurance, if women wanted to compete with men they could, however it seems like they'd rather not as the pro scene is highly competitive and requires an immense amount of dedication and training to get into in the first place.
Much like chess, this is more a game of the mind than it is of the body (Of course dexterity is very important aswell, but women aren't at a particular disadvantage there either.)
As jenze so eloquently stated above me, men are just generally more competitive than women and tend to put more time and effort into beating others and being the best, therefore these tournaments are created that are a little bit more casual and not so intimidating as some of the bigger events.
This is all just one opinion of stereotypes and gender roles that do not necessarily apply to the individual. I apologise if I have offended anyone with this statement / rant, I sincerely hope the Iron Lady succeeds and I wish it well.
On June 10 2011 06:12 Mikey wrote: Kind of stupid if you ask me. No offense to female gamers, but why should they get there own tournaments that exclude male players? Do tournaments exclude women from them? No. I think this is just meant to make female players stand out, but should they stand out if they aren't achieving results in normal tournaments?
Why is there a German only online SC2 league? Why shouldn't Swedes be allowed to play in it? I think it's just meant to make Germans stand out, but should they stand out if they aren't achieving results in tournaments that have Swedes?
On June 10 2011 06:12 Mikey wrote: Kind of stupid if you ask me. No offense to female gamers, but why should they get there own tournaments that exclude male players? Do tournaments exclude women from them? No. I think this is just meant to make female players stand out, but should they stand out if they aren't achieving results in normal tournaments?
Can you say with a straight face that there is a lack of open tournaments available to male gamers? Realize this is not meant for just excluding male gamers because their male, its about growing a community that is very small, but is there. You can't grow a female community in open cups because they are hidden behind the male gamers.
NESL, as well as ESL EU provides several open tournaments, including Go4SC2, and Dailymotion, as well as ladders. That is just ESL, now think of all the other tournaments available.
Please try to understand this, and not look at it from a selfish stand point
If roles were reversed and you had to deal with something like this : you would want a place to game freely as well :D
I think women esports should be compaired to golf, with the distance pentaly for man females are hitting the ball far enough (lets say a drive is +- 30 yards less for women). Their putting and and approaches should be onpar with the male competitors because that isnt all about power, but still the male competitors are putting wayyy better then the females. So i can totally understand the female competition instead of a mixed competition
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