On January 07 2011 19:23 undyinglight wrote:
Are there any reviews for this yet written by high level players?

That is something I would like to see.

First couple of top tier players to PM me or post here asking will get a free copy as long as they agree to tell me what they think

That said, some serious reviews are coming. Review copies are just now being received (I didn't time this well, I agree!

), so hopefully over the next week we'll get some weighted opinions in.

ajabberwok

United States59 Posts

January 07 2011 14:02 GMT

#106

I bought the pdf version, and I'm happy so far to have such a large amount of stories and information collected into one place. It's very interesting. I'm glad to support this effort.

That said, I'm glad I didn't pay for the physical book.

The Starcraft Bible looks like it simply is a copy and paste of text into a Word document. That is to say, the Stacraft Bible doesn't look very good - like an actual book.

To improve the Starcraft Bible as far as book format:

* Use "justified" text, which is flushed both left and right. Right now the Starcraft Bible it's flushed left, but ragged right. See Justification.

* The "optimal" width of text (as determined by typographers) is closer to 65 characters (including spaces). This is for legibility purposes. Right now the Starcraft Bible uses closer to 80 characters width. http://www.creativepro.com/blog/typetalk-there-optimum-line-length

* Put in page numbers.

A lot of the formatting problems could by solved by using LaTeX rather than Word (or whatever was used). LaTeX is to documents like html is to web pages. It is standard and used by many people (mostly in academia).

An example of a book written in latex that also gives an introduction to LaTeX is here:
The Not So Short Introduction to LaTeX2ε

With the use of a few LaTeX tags here and there, and simply using a lot of LaTeX format defaults, the Starcraft Bible could have the format similar to most other books. I'm very familiar with LaTeX myself and it is quite powerful. (I'd also be willing to help out in putting the book in latex format, if anyone is interested).

chobopeon

United States7342 Posts

January 07 2011 14:41 GMT

#107

Thank you for the tips! Really, I appreciate that. At the end of the book, I acknowledge that my formatting abilities are nonexistent. I will be looking over your tips in more detail soon and hopefully in the future everything can look much, much nicer. Thank you

Vinck

England20 Posts

January 07 2011 20:09 GMT

#108

Ordered from Amazon.com to the UK. anyone else interested on pricing:

Book works out to be around £15 here or there
Shipping for 2-3 weeks is around £5, shipping for 4-6 weeks is around £3.
The super fast 2-3 days shipping is like £20 so yeah monkeys to that.

Ignore their broad descriptions on the shipping options, those are the figures quoted to me once you've placed your order (You can go back through and change the shipping speed after you've placed the other to play around and see what happens).

I opted for the 2-3 week. It's only £2 dearer than the default option and you get it quite a bit sooner. Remember you can also use your Amazon.co.uk (and probably .de etc I suppose) account information to log into .com and all of your billing and shipping address information is retained.

Happy buying!

edit: Also note that I tried ordering for a friend too, but they seem to judge shipping on consignment weight or quantity as you can't order more than one copy on a single delivery costing. So it's easier to just order individually than try to dodge the shipping costs.

FishFuzz99

United States152 Posts

January 07 2011 21:35 GMT

#109

Will it always be paper back? I want a leather bound hard back version. =p

chobopeon

United States7342 Posts

January 07 2011 23:07 GMT

#110

On January 08 2011 06:35 FishFuzz99 wrote:
Will it always be paper back? I want a leather bound hard back version. =p

Wouldn't that be awesome? No plans yet but hey, here's to hoping.

utyske

Denmark185 Posts

January 08 2011 00:02 GMT

#111

I agree with ajabberwok about the formatting, and I have to wonder why some content are repeated, to be precise, I'm thinking about some of the interview with Day9. That part of the book could have been handled a bit differently, to avoid repetition.

But that aside, I really enjoyed the book, some parts almost play out like a really good documentary, and I was really touched by some of the stories, especially the story about sAviOr.

Being a veteran (and sucky) StarCraft player, but a totalt n00b, when it comes to the community, eSports and such, I enjoyed the history lesson.

I might even buy the paperback, if/when it pops up on the EU version of Amazon, instead of "just" having the PDF.

chobopeon

United States7342 Posts

January 08 2011 00:36 GMT

#112

On January 08 2011 09:02 utyske wrote:
I agree with ajabberwok about the formatting, and I have to wonder why some content are repeated, to be precise, I'm thinking about some of the interview with Day9. That part of the book could have been handled a bit differently, to avoid repetition.

But that aside, I really enjoyed the book, some parts almost play out like a really good documentary, and I was really touched by some of the stories, especially the story about sAviOr.

Being a veteran (and sucky) StarCraft player, but a totalt n00b, when it comes to the community, eSports and such, I enjoyed the history lesson.

I might even buy the paperback, if/when it pops up on the EU version of Amazon, instead of "just" having the PDF.

I'm glad you enjoyed the content :D

I will be working on the format in any future releases/projects. I apologize for the mistakes this time around!

Mindflow

Korea (South)320 Posts

January 08 2011 07:26 GMT

#113

Pretty sure you forgot Jinro in that. =(

CooDu

Australia899 Posts

January 08 2011 16:13 GMT

#114

Just bought a copy on PDF, looking forward to reading this immensely.

MrMedic

Canada452 Posts

January 08 2011 21:27 GMT

#115

Ordered my book the day it came out. I can not wait for it to come =)

crudo

Germany36 Posts

January 08 2011 22:54 GMT

#116

looks very interesting

HardCorey

United States709 Posts

January 09 2011 02:21 GMT

#117

This is awesome. I love getting e-sports and Starcraft out to the mainstream. Best of luck and I may pick up a copy of this to give as a gift.

IrT4nkz

229 Posts

January 09 2011 15:37 GMT

#118

It would be nice if somebody could do a better cover for the paperback version =)I Hope an updated version will come out soon.

bITt.mAN

Switzerland3689 Posts

January 09 2011 19:21 GMT

#119

I just realized:

The picture you have as a banner has NOTHING to do with your book!

Too much arm-hair(kk foreigners but still) + energy drink + recent, but NON-LOGITECH MINI OPTICAL + no mousecord bungee (that's not so recent no?)

My guess: Dreamhack, or some other lan

Mindtwist

Lithuania108 Posts

January 09 2011 20:25 GMT

#120

I respect what you have done. I may pickup the pdf version, but i dislike reading books on my pc.

Also I like your timing :p A lot of newcomers came to TL after sc2 release and some of them maybe interested in sc history as a whole. Props on that too.