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On June 11 2015 05:19 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 05:05 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 11 2015 05:04 Requizen wrote:On June 11 2015 05:01 onlywonderboy wrote:On June 11 2015 04:59 Requizen wrote:On June 11 2015 04:48 onlywonderboy wrote:On June 11 2015 04:38 Fusilero wrote:I love how the internet has brought back whataboutism. Between the return of whataboutism and Crimea it's like the Cold War never ended :> On June 11 2015 04:35 onlywonderboy wrote:
It looks so pretty
I've basically stopped using consoles and have no interest in buying the next generation of consoles. But if anything would convince me to drop the cash on one it's 100% ratchet and clank. PS4 totally worth it for Bloodborne, Last of Us (assuming you didn't play the PS3 version), Ratchet remake, and Uncharted 4 will probably be good. And eventually KH3, but I guess that'll be multiplat on XBOne as well. Speaking of games, Steam Sale tomorrow hype! I'm thinking that after this weekend I should have some time to start playing/streaming some of my library that I will likely add to during this sale. Nah, just continue the ever expanding back catalogue like the rest of us. Talking to Yango recently I'm pretty sure I'm told him there's like 5 games I want to play right now but haven't started yet. Also Witcher 3. That's also part of it. It's like, I want to play all of these games, but I don't know where to start and it's just so daunting and seems like it'll never end and oh look now I've been just watching Netflix for 4 hours because the stress of picking a game was too high. Brain is dumb. http://www.polygon.com/2015/1/2/7480745/how-to-be-a-happier-gamer-in-2015There's a point in there about joy being NOT indulging in Steam sales. I've begun meditating daily for at least ~15 minutes (either after work or before sleep, usually), and it's been a very positive experience for me.
I think that's reasonable. I remember there was a decent stretch of time during College that I was going to the chapel a few days a week to just sit in silent prayer or in Adoration. I know not everyone here is religious, but it's pretty similar to meditation and I remember being quite relaxed afterwards. Should make time for something like that.
On June 11 2015 05:40 Cixah wrote:
Guys,
My world of Warcraft tcg draft cube is almost complete. All thanks to Travis "doublelifts mom" gafford.
I don't really know what this means. Explan plz.
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On June 11 2015 05:56 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 05:19 jcarlsoniv wrote:On June 11 2015 05:05 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 11 2015 05:04 Requizen wrote:On June 11 2015 05:01 onlywonderboy wrote:On June 11 2015 04:59 Requizen wrote:On June 11 2015 04:48 onlywonderboy wrote:On June 11 2015 04:38 Fusilero wrote:I love how the internet has brought back whataboutism. Between the return of whataboutism and Crimea it's like the Cold War never ended :> On June 11 2015 04:35 onlywonderboy wrote:
It looks so pretty
I've basically stopped using consoles and have no interest in buying the next generation of consoles. But if anything would convince me to drop the cash on one it's 100% ratchet and clank. PS4 totally worth it for Bloodborne, Last of Us (assuming you didn't play the PS3 version), Ratchet remake, and Uncharted 4 will probably be good. And eventually KH3, but I guess that'll be multiplat on XBOne as well. Speaking of games, Steam Sale tomorrow hype! I'm thinking that after this weekend I should have some time to start playing/streaming some of my library that I will likely add to during this sale. Nah, just continue the ever expanding back catalogue like the rest of us. Talking to Yango recently I'm pretty sure I'm told him there's like 5 games I want to play right now but haven't started yet. Also Witcher 3. That's also part of it. It's like, I want to play all of these games, but I don't know where to start and it's just so daunting and seems like it'll never end and oh look now I've been just watching Netflix for 4 hours because the stress of picking a game was too high. Brain is dumb. http://www.polygon.com/2015/1/2/7480745/how-to-be-a-happier-gamer-in-2015There's a point in there about joy being NOT indulging in Steam sales. I've begun meditating daily for at least ~15 minutes (either after work or before sleep, usually), and it's been a very positive experience for me. I think that's reasonable. I remember there was a decent stretch of time during College that I was going to the chapel a few days a week to just sit in silent prayer or in Adoration. I know not everyone here is religious, but it's pretty similar to meditation and I remember being quite relaxed afterwards. Should make time for something like that. Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 05:40 Cixah wrote:
Guys,
My world of Warcraft tcg draft cube is almost complete. All thanks to Travis "doublelifts mom" gafford. I don't really know what this means. Explan plz.
He bought a bunch of old WoW TCG cards from esport's very own Travis Gafford.
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On June 11 2015 05:40 Cixah wrote:
Guys,
My world of Warcraft tcg draft cube is almost complete. All thanks to Travis "doublelifts mom" gafford.
pics bro.
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On June 11 2015 05:57 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 05:56 Requizen wrote:On June 11 2015 05:19 jcarlsoniv wrote:On June 11 2015 05:05 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 11 2015 05:04 Requizen wrote:On June 11 2015 05:01 onlywonderboy wrote:On June 11 2015 04:59 Requizen wrote:On June 11 2015 04:48 onlywonderboy wrote:On June 11 2015 04:38 Fusilero wrote:I love how the internet has brought back whataboutism. Between the return of whataboutism and Crimea it's like the Cold War never ended :> On June 11 2015 04:35 onlywonderboy wrote:
It looks so pretty
I've basically stopped using consoles and have no interest in buying the next generation of consoles. But if anything would convince me to drop the cash on one it's 100% ratchet and clank. PS4 totally worth it for Bloodborne, Last of Us (assuming you didn't play the PS3 version), Ratchet remake, and Uncharted 4 will probably be good. And eventually KH3, but I guess that'll be multiplat on XBOne as well. Speaking of games, Steam Sale tomorrow hype! I'm thinking that after this weekend I should have some time to start playing/streaming some of my library that I will likely add to during this sale. Nah, just continue the ever expanding back catalogue like the rest of us. Talking to Yango recently I'm pretty sure I'm told him there's like 5 games I want to play right now but haven't started yet. Also Witcher 3. That's also part of it. It's like, I want to play all of these games, but I don't know where to start and it's just so daunting and seems like it'll never end and oh look now I've been just watching Netflix for 4 hours because the stress of picking a game was too high. Brain is dumb. http://www.polygon.com/2015/1/2/7480745/how-to-be-a-happier-gamer-in-2015There's a point in there about joy being NOT indulging in Steam sales. I've begun meditating daily for at least ~15 minutes (either after work or before sleep, usually), and it's been a very positive experience for me. I think that's reasonable. I remember there was a decent stretch of time during College that I was going to the chapel a few days a week to just sit in silent prayer or in Adoration. I know not everyone here is religious, but it's pretty similar to meditation and I remember being quite relaxed afterwards. Should make time for something like that. On June 11 2015 05:40 Cixah wrote:
Guys,
My world of Warcraft tcg draft cube is almost complete. All thanks to Travis "doublelifts mom" gafford. I don't really know what this means. Explan plz. He bought a bunch of old WoW TCG cards from esport's very own Travis Gafford.
I remember that, but I'm unfamiliar with the concept of a "draft cube". The only TCG I know is Hearthstone, so I assume it's just terminology I'm not familiar with.
I'm just imagining Cixah having a big, clear, plastic cube filled perfectly with cards that randomly spits out a deck every now and then. It's amusing.
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For what it's worth I was thinking much the same thing Req. Only the cube had all the cards on the sides so you could look at them.
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On June 11 2015 05:56 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 05:19 jcarlsoniv wrote:On June 11 2015 05:05 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 11 2015 05:04 Requizen wrote:On June 11 2015 05:01 onlywonderboy wrote:On June 11 2015 04:59 Requizen wrote:On June 11 2015 04:48 onlywonderboy wrote:On June 11 2015 04:38 Fusilero wrote:I love how the internet has brought back whataboutism. Between the return of whataboutism and Crimea it's like the Cold War never ended :> On June 11 2015 04:35 onlywonderboy wrote:
It looks so pretty
I've basically stopped using consoles and have no interest in buying the next generation of consoles. But if anything would convince me to drop the cash on one it's 100% ratchet and clank. PS4 totally worth it for Bloodborne, Last of Us (assuming you didn't play the PS3 version), Ratchet remake, and Uncharted 4 will probably be good. And eventually KH3, but I guess that'll be multiplat on XBOne as well. Speaking of games, Steam Sale tomorrow hype! I'm thinking that after this weekend I should have some time to start playing/streaming some of my library that I will likely add to during this sale. Nah, just continue the ever expanding back catalogue like the rest of us. Talking to Yango recently I'm pretty sure I'm told him there's like 5 games I want to play right now but haven't started yet. Also Witcher 3. That's also part of it. It's like, I want to play all of these games, but I don't know where to start and it's just so daunting and seems like it'll never end and oh look now I've been just watching Netflix for 4 hours because the stress of picking a game was too high. Brain is dumb. http://www.polygon.com/2015/1/2/7480745/how-to-be-a-happier-gamer-in-2015There's a point in there about joy being NOT indulging in Steam sales. I've begun meditating daily for at least ~15 minutes (either after work or before sleep, usually), and it's been a very positive experience for me. I think that's reasonable. I remember there was a decent stretch of time during College that I was going to the chapel a few days a week to just sit in silent prayer or in Adoration. I know not everyone here is religious, but it's pretty similar to meditation and I remember being quite relaxed afterwards. Should make time for something like that.
I would say that prayer and meditation are quite different. In prayer you're thinking about something or having some sort of focus or purpose or reciting words or feelings, etc. In meditation, the practice is to continually bring your focus back to your breath (or your "anchor", I guess, but breath is the most universal and consistent "anchor"). Inevitably, while meditating, your mind wanders and you have other thoughts, but the intent is to observe those thoughts casually and allow them to pass, always returning to anchoring your focus. It becomes very much about letting your mind stay awake while your body rests.
Now, if you happened to be meditating at church, then cool. But I feel like they serve very different purposes and have different intents/processes.
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A cube is esentually a "custom" draft set filled with really powerful cards. Imagine you're opening a pack in hearthstone, but literally every card in you 30 card deck is legendary or really strong.
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On June 11 2015 06:05 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 05:56 Requizen wrote:On June 11 2015 05:19 jcarlsoniv wrote:On June 11 2015 05:05 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 11 2015 05:04 Requizen wrote:On June 11 2015 05:01 onlywonderboy wrote:On June 11 2015 04:59 Requizen wrote:On June 11 2015 04:48 onlywonderboy wrote:On June 11 2015 04:38 Fusilero wrote:I love how the internet has brought back whataboutism. Between the return of whataboutism and Crimea it's like the Cold War never ended :> On June 11 2015 04:35 onlywonderboy wrote:
It looks so pretty
I've basically stopped using consoles and have no interest in buying the next generation of consoles. But if anything would convince me to drop the cash on one it's 100% ratchet and clank. PS4 totally worth it for Bloodborne, Last of Us (assuming you didn't play the PS3 version), Ratchet remake, and Uncharted 4 will probably be good. And eventually KH3, but I guess that'll be multiplat on XBOne as well. Speaking of games, Steam Sale tomorrow hype! I'm thinking that after this weekend I should have some time to start playing/streaming some of my library that I will likely add to during this sale. Nah, just continue the ever expanding back catalogue like the rest of us. Talking to Yango recently I'm pretty sure I'm told him there's like 5 games I want to play right now but haven't started yet. Also Witcher 3. That's also part of it. It's like, I want to play all of these games, but I don't know where to start and it's just so daunting and seems like it'll never end and oh look now I've been just watching Netflix for 4 hours because the stress of picking a game was too high. Brain is dumb. http://www.polygon.com/2015/1/2/7480745/how-to-be-a-happier-gamer-in-2015There's a point in there about joy being NOT indulging in Steam sales. I've begun meditating daily for at least ~15 minutes (either after work or before sleep, usually), and it's been a very positive experience for me. I think that's reasonable. I remember there was a decent stretch of time during College that I was going to the chapel a few days a week to just sit in silent prayer or in Adoration. I know not everyone here is religious, but it's pretty similar to meditation and I remember being quite relaxed afterwards. Should make time for something like that. I would say that prayer and meditation are quite different. In prayer you're thinking about something or having some sort of focus or purpose or reciting words or feelings, etc. In meditation, the practice is to continually bring your focus back to your breath (or your "anchor", I guess, but breath is the most universal and consistent "anchor"). Inevitably, while meditating, your mind wanders and you have other thoughts, but the intent is to observe those thoughts casually and allow them to pass, always returning to anchoring your focus. It becomes very much about letting your mind stay awake while your body rests. Now, if you happened to be meditating at church, then cool. But I feel like they serve very different purposes and have different intents/processes.
There are different "types" of prayer. While I am in no way an expert on the subject, in my experience there are many disparate ways to pray depending on why you're doing it.
When a lot of people hear "prayer", they imagine someone sitting or kneeling while asking God for something or thanking him for something. Which is pretty much the "basic" way to pray. Prayer is often compared to a discussion, after all. Talking to God, listening for an answer, or waiting until you come to that conclusion.
Other times, though, it's different. In the Catholic Church, there's a type of thing called Eucharistic adoration. The priest will put a piece of Eucharist into a monstrance (a sort of fancy vessel) and leave it out for a period of time. People can then sit and observe, while meditating on the mystery of the Eucharist. It's actually sometimes called Eucharistic meditation. You're supposed to sit silently, focus on what is believed in the faith to be the ultimate sign of compassion, and meditate on what it means to you, among other things.
Christian meditation also has other aspects, such as reading a passage of the Gospel and contemplating it. In this way, it's different from traditional or Eastern meditation, which is about clearing your mind, but it is similar in that you focus on one idea and let all unrelated thoughts slip away, while relaxing your body and ignoring outside stimuli.
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On June 11 2015 06:08 Cixah wrote:
A cube is esentually a "custom" draft set filled with really powerful cards. Imagine you're opening a pack in hearthstone, but literally every card in you 30 card deck is legendary or really strong.
Ah, I see. So it's kind of like an Arena run but you can set the cards you draw from so you know there's no duds in there.
What's the size of a custom draft and the size of a deck? Is this a normal mode of play that a lot of people do?
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On June 11 2015 06:17 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 06:08 Cixah wrote:
A cube is esentually a "custom" draft set filled with really powerful cards. Imagine you're opening a pack in hearthstone, but literally every card in you 30 card deck is legendary or really strong. Ah, I see. So it's kind of like an Arena run but you can set the cards you draw from so you know there's no duds in there. What's the size of a custom draft and the size of a deck? Is this a normal mode of play that a lot of people do?
Wow tcg is very large. Currently 80 horde minions, 80 ally minions, 40 scryer, 40 aldor, 40 traitors, 40 argent crusade minions. Then 30 abilities for each class, except priest mage and lock who have 40. 80 quests, and every master hero. The next package I have coming Friday has every legendary equipment plus all the loot card equips from the raid decks.
Its a very big box.
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On June 11 2015 06:08 Cixah wrote:
A cube is esentually a "custom" draft set filled with really powerful cards. Imagine you're opening a pack in hearthstone, but literally every card in you 30 card deck is legendary or really strong.
Correction: It's only really powerful if you have the cash to buy a sufficient number of really powerful cards to put in it.
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you mean its a very big cube
aparently we arnt the only ones who think witcher is awesome / game of the year worthy
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On June 11 2015 06:20 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 06:08 Cixah wrote:
A cube is esentually a "custom" draft set filled with really powerful cards. Imagine you're opening a pack in hearthstone, but literally every card in you 30 card deck is legendary or really strong. Correction: It's only really powerful if you have the cash to buy a sufficient number of really powerful cards to put in it.
In magic yes.
In the wow tcg, the most expensive card is a 70 dollar "blizzard employee only" card that was given to them for xmas. I spent 50 dollars in eBay for 400 cards on Sunday for a game that isn't played anymore.
Tbh, this game has more depth to it than magic to me. The only difference is magic is still around.
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On June 11 2015 06:24 Cixah wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 06:20 TheYango wrote:On June 11 2015 06:08 Cixah wrote:
A cube is esentually a "custom" draft set filled with really powerful cards. Imagine you're opening a pack in hearthstone, but literally every card in you 30 card deck is legendary or really strong. Correction: It's only really powerful if you have the cash to buy a sufficient number of really powerful cards to put in it. In magic yes. In the wow tcg, the most expensive card is a 70 dollar "blizzard employee only" card that was given to them for xmas. I spent 50 dollars in eBay for 400 cards on Sunday for a game that isn't played anymore. Tbh, this game has more depth to it than magic to me. The only difference is magic is still around.
Yeah, I was about to ask how many people even still play it. I can't say I've seen a pack in years.
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On June 11 2015 06:15 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 06:05 jcarlsoniv wrote:On June 11 2015 05:56 Requizen wrote:On June 11 2015 05:19 jcarlsoniv wrote:On June 11 2015 05:05 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 11 2015 05:04 Requizen wrote:On June 11 2015 05:01 onlywonderboy wrote:On June 11 2015 04:59 Requizen wrote:On June 11 2015 04:48 onlywonderboy wrote:On June 11 2015 04:38 Fusilero wrote:
I love how the internet has brought back whataboutism. Between the return of whataboutism and Crimea it's like the Cold War never ended :>
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I've basically stopped using consoles and have no interest in buying the next generation of consoles. But if anything would convince me to drop the cash on one it's 100% ratchet and clank. PS4 totally worth it for Bloodborne, Last of Us (assuming you didn't play the PS3 version), Ratchet remake, and Uncharted 4 will probably be good. And eventually KH3, but I guess that'll be multiplat on XBOne as well. Speaking of games, Steam Sale tomorrow hype! I'm thinking that after this weekend I should have some time to start playing/streaming some of my library that I will likely add to during this sale. Nah, just continue the ever expanding back catalogue like the rest of us. Talking to Yango recently I'm pretty sure I'm told him there's like 5 games I want to play right now but haven't started yet. Also Witcher 3. That's also part of it. It's like, I want to play all of these games, but I don't know where to start and it's just so daunting and seems like it'll never end and oh look now I've been just watching Netflix for 4 hours because the stress of picking a game was too high. Brain is dumb. http://www.polygon.com/2015/1/2/7480745/how-to-be-a-happier-gamer-in-2015There's a point in there about joy being NOT indulging in Steam sales. I've begun meditating daily for at least ~15 minutes (either after work or before sleep, usually), and it's been a very positive experience for me. I think that's reasonable. I remember there was a decent stretch of time during College that I was going to the chapel a few days a week to just sit in silent prayer or in Adoration. I know not everyone here is religious, but it's pretty similar to meditation and I remember being quite relaxed afterwards. Should make time for something like that. I would say that prayer and meditation are quite different. In prayer you're thinking about something or having some sort of focus or purpose or reciting words or feelings, etc. In meditation, the practice is to continually bring your focus back to your breath (or your "anchor", I guess, but breath is the most universal and consistent "anchor"). Inevitably, while meditating, your mind wanders and you have other thoughts, but the intent is to observe those thoughts casually and allow them to pass, always returning to anchoring your focus. It becomes very much about letting your mind stay awake while your body rests. Now, if you happened to be meditating at church, then cool. But I feel like they serve very different purposes and have different intents/processes. There are different "types" of prayer. While I am in no way an expert on the subject, in my experience there are many disparate ways to pray depending on why you're doing it. When a lot of people hear "prayer", they imagine someone sitting or kneeling while asking God for something or thanking him for something. Which is pretty much the "basic" way to pray. Prayer is often compared to a discussion, after all. Talking to God, listening for an answer, or waiting until you come to that conclusion. Other times, though, it's different. In the Catholic Church, there's a type of thing called Eucharistic adoration. The priest will put a piece of Eucharist into a monstrance (a sort of fancy vessel) and leave it out for a period of time. People can then sit and observe, while meditating on the mystery of the Eucharist. It's actually sometimes called Eucharistic meditation. You're supposed to sit silently, focus on what is believed in the faith to be the ultimate sign of compassion, and meditate on what it means to you, among other things.Christian meditation also has other aspects, such as reading a passage of the Gospel and contemplating it. In this way, it's different from traditional or Eastern meditation, which is about clearing your mind, but it is similar in that you focus on one idea and let all unrelated thoughts slip away, while relaxing your body and ignoring outside stimuli.
Cool, TIL.
Obviously meditation is spiritual in nature, and shares many similarities with prayer inherently. I personally wouldn't use them synonymously, but for some people they can go hand in hand.
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On June 11 2015 06:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 06:15 Requizen wrote:On June 11 2015 06:05 jcarlsoniv wrote:On June 11 2015 05:56 Requizen wrote:On June 11 2015 05:19 jcarlsoniv wrote:On June 11 2015 05:05 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 11 2015 05:04 Requizen wrote:On June 11 2015 05:01 onlywonderboy wrote:On June 11 2015 04:59 Requizen wrote:On June 11 2015 04:48 onlywonderboy wrote:
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PS4 totally worth it for Bloodborne, Last of Us (assuming you didn't play the PS3 version), Ratchet remake, and Uncharted 4 will probably be good. And eventually KH3, but I guess that'll be multiplat on XBOne as well. Speaking of games, Steam Sale tomorrow hype! I'm thinking that after this weekend I should have some time to start playing/streaming some of my library that I will likely add to during this sale. Nah, just continue the ever expanding back catalogue like the rest of us. Talking to Yango recently I'm pretty sure I'm told him there's like 5 games I want to play right now but haven't started yet. Also Witcher 3. That's also part of it. It's like, I want to play all of these games, but I don't know where to start and it's just so daunting and seems like it'll never end and oh look now I've been just watching Netflix for 4 hours because the stress of picking a game was too high. Brain is dumb. http://www.polygon.com/2015/1/2/7480745/how-to-be-a-happier-gamer-in-2015There's a point in there about joy being NOT indulging in Steam sales. I've begun meditating daily for at least ~15 minutes (either after work or before sleep, usually), and it's been a very positive experience for me. I think that's reasonable. I remember there was a decent stretch of time during College that I was going to the chapel a few days a week to just sit in silent prayer or in Adoration. I know not everyone here is religious, but it's pretty similar to meditation and I remember being quite relaxed afterwards. Should make time for something like that. I would say that prayer and meditation are quite different. In prayer you're thinking about something or having some sort of focus or purpose or reciting words or feelings, etc. In meditation, the practice is to continually bring your focus back to your breath (or your "anchor", I guess, but breath is the most universal and consistent "anchor"). Inevitably, while meditating, your mind wanders and you have other thoughts, but the intent is to observe those thoughts casually and allow them to pass, always returning to anchoring your focus. It becomes very much about letting your mind stay awake while your body rests. Now, if you happened to be meditating at church, then cool. But I feel like they serve very different purposes and have different intents/processes. There are different "types" of prayer. While I am in no way an expert on the subject, in my experience there are many disparate ways to pray depending on why you're doing it. When a lot of people hear "prayer", they imagine someone sitting or kneeling while asking God for something or thanking him for something. Which is pretty much the "basic" way to pray. Prayer is often compared to a discussion, after all. Talking to God, listening for an answer, or waiting until you come to that conclusion. Other times, though, it's different. In the Catholic Church, there's a type of thing called Eucharistic adoration. The priest will put a piece of Eucharist into a monstrance (a sort of fancy vessel) and leave it out for a period of time. People can then sit and observe, while meditating on the mystery of the Eucharist. It's actually sometimes called Eucharistic meditation. You're supposed to sit silently, focus on what is believed in the faith to be the ultimate sign of compassion, and meditate on what it means to you, among other things.Christian meditation also has other aspects, such as reading a passage of the Gospel and contemplating it. In this way, it's different from traditional or Eastern meditation, which is about clearing your mind, but it is similar in that you focus on one idea and let all unrelated thoughts slip away, while relaxing your body and ignoring outside stimuli. Cool, TIL. Obviously meditation is spiritual in nature, and shares many similarities with prayer inherently. I personally wouldn't use them synonymously, but for some people they can go hand in hand.
I would agree that they're not the same, but the outcome can be similar between the two. I honestly think any form of relaxation that takes you away from negative stressors is good. Whether that be meditating, praying, walking (not for exercise, though I guess that could work too), or for some people doing mindless work/chores/etc.
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Pretty sure Double Down was worse for your health, but this is more creative imo.
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