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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-07 16:11:05
February 07 2018 16:10 GMT
#36661
My rib injury has improved maybe 5% the last 4-5 days. >_<

On the positive side, it only really hurts when I twist my torso, bend, or use my left arm repetitively (clearing snow off my car has been quite painful). If I'm just sitting around I barely notice it. Lying down is probably the most painful thing I do.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-08 01:02:14
February 08 2018 01:02 GMT
#36662
I'd expect a contusion to heal(well, improve) a decent amount faster than that, did you get an x-ray when you first hurt it?
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-08 05:49:19
February 08 2018 05:44 GMT
#36663
Nah. The pain was super slow in onset (like 4-5 hours), and the 2nd day it felt manageable. Surprisingly bruised ribs take 3-4 weeks to heal, so I suppose this is normal. I just expected the amount of pain would go from like 100%->50%->20% given how the first few days went, but that seems to have been overly optimistic. 45% of day 1 pain is manageable, it's just really inconvenient.

Also it is possible I tore some cartilage- the pain is really deep and the surface level stuff healed almost immediately. Regardless, of the diagnosis- bruise, fracture, or break- all you can do is suffer!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
February 08 2018 12:20 GMT
#36664
Yeah, rib stuff takes forever because they're constantly moving even if you're taking it easy.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 08 2018 13:00 GMT
#36665
Just gotta stop breathing, then it'll heal ok.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
February 08 2018 15:59 GMT
#36666
On February 08 2018 14:44 zer0das wrote:
Nah. The pain was super slow in onset (like 4-5 hours), and the 2nd day it felt manageable. Surprisingly bruised ribs take 3-4 weeks to heal, so I suppose this is normal. I just expected the amount of pain would go from like 100%->50%->20% given how the first few days went, but that seems to have been overly optimistic. 45% of day 1 pain is manageable, it's just really inconvenient.

Also it is possible I tore some cartilage- the pain is really deep and the surface level stuff healed almost immediately. Regardless, of the diagnosis- bruise, fracture, or break- all you can do is suffer!


I would highly doubt you tore cartilage without an actual fracture of the ribs and that's a unique feeling that wouldn't have gone away in a few days. I was thinking more like an oblique strain to go with your rib contusion but that would mean something more than just like 'I got elbowed hard in the ribs' happened too.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
February 08 2018 16:55 GMT
#36667
Now that you mention it, the pain is located near my external oblique at the edge of lowest rib on the left side. So that's a definite possibility.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 08 2018 18:38 GMT
#36668
I alway forget you guys can't just go to the doctor for stuff like that. So weird to me... be better America. Look after each other.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-08 18:50:37
February 08 2018 18:48 GMT
#36669
I'm super depressed. I had an urge to get back into pokemon but I only have a DS and heart gold or soul silver that i wanted are like 70 dollars and I'm pretty broke.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
February 08 2018 18:55 GMT
#36670
Do you have a moral objection to pirating them and playing on an emulator? Because that's what I'd do.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
February 08 2018 19:10 GMT
#36671
I generally avoid emulating games unless they are either fan-translated games you can't really obtain otherwise or things I actually own (or in some cases, once owned).
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 08 2018 20:00 GMT
#36672
On February 09 2018 03:38 iCanada wrote:
I alway forget you guys can't just go to the doctor for stuff like that. So weird to me... be better America. Look after each other.


I had this like crazy epiphany moment about just how stupid US healthcare is a while back, not sure if I told you guys this story.

I'mma spoiler this shit.

+ Show Spoiler +

So, I was at work on a Saturday and crazy stressed, which is a side story in and of itself. Basically a special needs student at school was being bullied and harassed by his peers, and the school was refusing to do anything about it and the parents were all in denial, because Asia is really bad about mental health issues. I don't want to go into detail about that, or rather I do but I shouldn't because privacy and ethics, but basically it had been a really bad week for this student and I was trying to help him and being unsuccessful.

The point is this issue took so much of my time that that week I hadnt really gotten much work done, so I had to go to school on Saturday to do lesson plans and catch up. We also had a school sports day on Sunday, and had had an education fair the weekend prior, so I was looking at a straight 19 days of work.

I was also really stressing hard over this school issue, because who wouldn't, and because I was really taking it personally due to my own history with depression at school and being bullied etc.

So I was in the office on a Saturday and really stressed out.

And I started having chest pains.

And I was like WTF, I can't be having a heart attack, that is not possible, I'm 32, have a good diet, low blood pressure, exercise more than most people and had a physical just like half a year ago with no issues. So I kept working.

Then like an hour later my left arm started hurting.

And I'm telling all this to my then girlfriend now fiance and she's like GO TO THE DOCTOR.

And I'm all like naw I need to work there's no way this is a heart attack I'm not at risk of that at all.

And she's like YOU ARE FUCKING STUPID GO TO THE FUCKING DOCTOR RIGHT THE FUCK NOW.

So I drove myself to the doctor, and they did some sort of test and told me no my heart was perfectly healthy and they thought I was just stressed the fuck out and I needed to go home and relax, gave me a note so I could take the next day off work, and I went home and watched cartoons and the pain went away basically immediately. Doctors visit was free and I was only in there about 20 minutes.


Anyway the moral of the story is I realized later that if this had happened in USA I wouldn't have gone to the doctor, just flat out. There's absolutely no way I would have gone. And not only that, not going to the doctor would have been the correct decision, because I was right in my self diagnosis and would have avoided a big pointless bill.

But in that situation in USA I could have made the correct decision to not go to the doctor and then died of a heart attack.

So not only did a single payer healthcare system turn out to be really helpful and preventative there, but I felt like it also showed how growing up in the US system taught me a logical process in regards to my health that is basically ass fucking backwards, while my fiance had a much more sensible rationale towards the whole thing.

I think we all realize that the US medical system encourages you to not go to the doctor and that that's stupid as fuck, but basically this really brought home and crystalized for me just exactly how stupid it truly is.

It's pretty fucking stupid.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 08 2018 20:09 GMT
#36673
+ Show Spoiler [Healthcare stuff] +
Our health stuff is a bit of a mess. Tend to go to private mostly myself but a visit to the doctor which I went end of last year cost me like R200. Which converted would be around 15$. In terms of big Macs it's about 5. Never quite understood why it's so expensive over there even if it's a bit of a mess.

I've never been in situation where felt "I can't see the doctor" and never really heard anyone say that. Mostly about going to the clinic(Which is free) over going to private.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
February 08 2018 20:20 GMT
#36674
On February 09 2018 05:00 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 03:38 iCanada wrote:
I alway forget you guys can't just go to the doctor for stuff like that. So weird to me... be better America. Look after each other.


I had this like crazy epiphany moment about just how stupid US healthcare is a while back, not sure if I told you guys this story.

I'mma spoiler this shit.

+ Show Spoiler +

So, I was at work on a Saturday and crazy stressed, which is a side story in and of itself. Basically a special needs student at school was being bullied and harassed by his peers, and the school was refusing to do anything about it and the parents were all in denial, because Asia is really bad about mental health issues. I don't want to go into detail about that, or rather I do but I shouldn't because privacy and ethics, but basically it had been a really bad week for this student and I was trying to help him and being unsuccessful.

The point is this issue took so much of my time that that week I hadnt really gotten much work done, so I had to go to school on Saturday to do lesson plans and catch up. We also had a school sports day on Sunday, and had had an education fair the weekend prior, so I was looking at a straight 19 days of work.

I was also really stressing hard over this school issue, because who wouldn't, and because I was really taking it personally due to my own history with depression at school and being bullied etc.

So I was in the office on a Saturday and really stressed out.

And I started having chest pains.

And I was like WTF, I can't be having a heart attack, that is not possible, I'm 32, have a good diet, low blood pressure, exercise more than most people and had a physical just like half a year ago with no issues. So I kept working.

Then like an hour later my left arm started hurting.

And I'm telling all this to my then girlfriend now fiance and she's like GO TO THE DOCTOR.

And I'm all like naw I need to work there's no way this is a heart attack I'm not at risk of that at all.

And she's like YOU ARE FUCKING STUPID GO TO THE FUCKING DOCTOR RIGHT THE FUCK NOW.

So I drove myself to the doctor, and they did some sort of test and told me no my heart was perfectly healthy and they thought I was just stressed the fuck out and I needed to go home and relax, gave me a note so I could take the next day off work, and I went home and watched cartoons and the pain went away basically immediately. Doctors visit was free and I was only in there about 20 minutes.


Anyway the moral of the story is I realized later that if this had happened in USA I wouldn't have gone to the doctor, just flat out. There's absolutely no way I would have gone. And not only that, not going to the doctor would have been the correct decision, because I was right in my self diagnosis and would have avoided a big pointless bill.

But in that situation in USA I could have made the correct decision to not go to the doctor and then died of a heart attack.

So not only did a single payer healthcare system turn out to be really helpful and preventative there, but I felt like it also showed how growing up in the US system taught me a logical process in regards to my health that is basically ass fucking backwards, while my fiance had a much more sensible rationale towards the whole thing.

I think we all realize that the US medical system encourages you to not go to the doctor and that that's stupid as fuck, but basically this really brought home and crystalized for me just exactly how stupid it truly is.

It's pretty fucking stupid.


That this story exists and I 100% agree with your conclusions is depressing AF.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 08 2018 20:23 GMT
#36675
Yeah thinking about it now that I'm going back in two weeks (was literally looking up the price of elementalist Lux yesterday), I'm confident that if it happened again in USA I still wouldn't go to the doctor and it would still be the right decision.

I guess the conclusion should be that the best way to take care of my health is to leave USA again.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
February 08 2018 20:33 GMT
#36676
I have no idea how good and why healthcare is where you live, but here public hc is such a fucking mess that I would also choose not to go to a doctor in same circumstances as you had, even though it would cost me nothing - I just think it would be a waste of time and if I was really about to have a heart attack then I would just die in the waiting room. Although that might just be my preconception and I could be wrong idk.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-08 21:28:22
February 08 2018 21:25 GMT
#36677
idk about poland specifically but there are good and bad doctors everywhere. Which is why it is a good idea to find the good ones, ideally before you really need them.

There is also value in building a relationship with a doctor. Even if you think they should treat everyone the same, in the end they are just people like everyone else.
Off-season = best season
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
February 08 2018 23:06 GMT
#36678
The problems with the US system are pretty apparent at basically every level, but I think it starts to get really bad once you get beyond a basic preventative health/routine visit.

Like, it will vary based on insurance, but a trip because of a worry like Ketara had to your general practice physicians/NPs is going to run somewhere from free to a $60 copay depending on your insurance. Again, still potentially a problem, but it's not crazy yet, right? Maybe they heard a heart murmur, and saw a blip in his rhythm, and needed to follow up with something else though. Perhaps he just hit the 40% copay or straight out of pocket expense territories, I can't say for sure because I'm a PT not an MD/NP so I don't know what the next step would actually be here, but it seems totally plausible that patient Ketara leaves this visit with a solid couple hundred owed/not covered by insurance just to confirm that it's nothing; he drank too much coffee and not enough water combined with a really stressful workday following a bad night of sleep, but not anything worth worrying about.

Phew, you can't put a price tag on that kind of mental relief though right, clean bill of health! But no, really, that'll be $250 please see the clerk at the front desk.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 08 2018 23:22 GMT
#36679
Patient Ketara hasn't had insurance in USA in about 10 years tho.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5006 Posts
February 09 2018 00:37 GMT
#36680
I'm pretty positive I've had hives on my body a few weeks back when I was stressing out about exams. A few rounds of short/no sleep + stress gave me random itchy bumps at different spots each time, coming and going. They would subside over the course of the day and come back after "night rest". One morning my face and hands were all swollen up, thinking I might go in anaphylactic shock (or just suffocate) if I went to bed again.. Was pretty scary shit (simply because I'm literally never sick and this shit looked so dramatic). Decided to go to my exam instead of a doctor because priorities lol.
Few days later it hadn't reappeared. Truly weird shit what stress (at least I think it was stress in my case) can do to your body man.
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