EPTI'll just call him fatass.
Scip, don't be a fatass.
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
I'll just call him fatass. Scip, don't be a fatass. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35167 Posts
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
I'd say that she made a decision that she can't ethically back out of, and while you can do your best to help and keep constantly assuring her that it will get better, she needs to follow through. If you decide you really have to give the dog up, find another owner instead of returning it. It'll be a lot more work but it's the more responsible thing to do. That said, this is coming from the guy who only got engaged after making a clear statement that he would rather get a divorce than have children. Eeee I haven't seen her for two months she's coming home in like four hours I am going to diiiieeee. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Played mafia tonight. Accused somebody right, but got accused a bit in return. When we voted we killed my target who was scum, and an external condition killed her neighbour, who was accusing me (host adds some of these condition to speed up 20 people games so we have 3-4 per night). Around 5 people accused me, including the victim and somebody else we had suspicions on. Neighbour had a role that let her shoot someone when she dies, so she chose me to kill me anyway rather than the other suspicious person (who was scum too). RIP. (I turned out to be a townie with a rule that'd have basically ended the town had I been lynched too, I claimed it so obviously anyone voting against me without strong proofs to doubt the claim were likely scum.  ) | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On October 05 2017 07:36 Ketara wrote: and it's pretty easy to conceive a situation where the dogs life (because returning the dog to the shelter is potentially threatening it's life) is more important than your wife's happiness. Nope. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Look at it this way. If the dog was making the wife unhappy and it was not possible to move the dog into a new home, would it be morally justifiable to actually kill the dog so that the wife would be happy again? I mean some people would probably say yes, it depends on how you look at the rights of the dog, but I certainly wouldn't. All I'm saying is that because you've made a decision to support the animal, that then gives you a responsibility to do so. If you decide you're not capable of taking care of it, find somebody else who is rather than giving it back to the shelter. If that takes some extra time, suck it up and do it because you've chosen to have that responsibility. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
I think if you decide against it you have to find a different owner. The reality is that kennels are over full as it is. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On October 05 2017 10:26 Ketara wrote: There's a difference between an animal that you've chosen to take care of and an animal that you haven't, IMO. Look at it this way. If the dog was making the wife unhappy and it was not possible to move the dog into a new home, would it be morally justifiable to actually kill the dog so that the wife would be happy again? I mean some people would probably say yes, it depends on how you look at the rights of the dog, but I certainly wouldn't. All I'm saying is that because you've made a decision to support the animal, that then gives you a responsibility to do so. If you decide you're not capable of taking care of it, find somebody else who is rather than giving it back to the shelter. If that takes some extra time, suck it up and do it because you've chosen to have that responsibility. If you could make bacon out of dog this wouldn't even be a question | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
I may be simplifying a few things here, and it's probably a lot more complicated than just this | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
awful | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On October 05 2017 10:36 Scip wrote: If you could make bacon out of dog this wouldn't even be a question To be fair, I was just in the Philippines and they do eat dogs and this is EXACTLY what they do when they have a violent pet. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On October 05 2017 10:46 Ketara wrote: To be fair, I was just in the Philippines and they do eat dogs and this is EXACTLY what they do when they have a violent pet. WEOW it's almost as if the overly cynical Scip with his cruel views towards moral values of animal lives and no faith for goodwill of people has, in his ramblings, managed to capture transcendental truth of human behavior. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
A: The dog is violent. We need to kill the dog to keep the humans safe. B: Well the dog is dead now. We're not just gonna let it rot. Really, it does make pretty good sense. Scips next post is "I wonder why we don't eat human criminals." | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
I have a friend who is a firefighter who refuses to eat Bacon. Apparently it smells identical to burning people. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
If he would've led with the 'find another owner instead of returning to shelter' bit I'd have said nothing but the quoted part I can't agree with. Even if you don't give a fuck about his wife because you're on some Reddit trip about humans being awful, that dog is going to have a shit life being with an owner that basically hates it. It's not going to magically get better because they keep it to solve some ethical dilemma. A depressed owner is probably a negligent owner and possibly an outright abusive one. But sure cool you saved its life... | ||
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