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On October 04 2017 04:20 Scip wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2017 04:16 iCanada wrote:On October 04 2017 04:05 mordek wrote:If you're thinking about having kids stick it out  Yeah, dog is like a quarter the work with similar emotional payout to a kid in first 6 months as a kid is for first 3 or 4 years. LOL similar emotional payoff gtfo of here man lmao
You ever had a puppy? Thing loves you unconditionally and achieves growth milestones every two hours.
It's obviously not the same, but I said similar not identical.
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
Yea I did but admittedly I was a kid back then
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On October 04 2017 04:40 killerdog wrote: If your getting a first dog, especially with people who aren't used to dogs, why get a shetler?
Much much easier to train/deal with a puppy, plus it's cuter and will end up much closer to you, than dealing with a fully grown dog who by the sounds of it isn't even properly house trained? Very disagree. I don't have time to take a puppy out every 2 hours (even at night) or housebreak/crate train it. Working with existing issues on an already trained dog that knows how to hold its pee and can sleep the night in a crate without breaking down is much easier imo.
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On October 04 2017 04:05 mordek wrote:If you're thinking about having kids stick it out  .... Yeah mordek thought of the first thing that popped into my head here.
Taking care of a dog is a lot of work, but then there's kids. You guys will have to have that conversation as well I imagine...
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On October 04 2017 05:46 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2017 04:40 killerdog wrote: If your getting a first dog, especially with people who aren't used to dogs, why get a shetler?
Much much easier to train/deal with a puppy, plus it's cuter and will end up much closer to you, than dealing with a fully grown dog who by the sounds of it isn't even properly house trained? Very disagree. I don't have time to take a puppy out every 2 hours (even at night) or housebreak/crate train it. Working with existing issues on an already trained dog that knows how to hold its pee and can sleep the night in a crate without breaking down is much easier imo. Also I'm not 100% sure that's the case. Puppy training is absolutely some work but it many cases it can be easier than dealing with a dog with emotional/social problems from being abused/abandoned or poorly trained. If being housebroken is your major concern then sure I guess, but there's often just just lot more to it with older dogs.
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On October 04 2017 07:57 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2017 04:05 mordek wrote:If you're thinking about having kids stick it out  .... Yeah mordek thought of the first thing that popped into my head here. Taking care of a dog is a lot of work, but then there's kids. You guys will have to have that conversation as well I imagine... Oh yes I realize that. I'm already extremely worried, I think it's gonna be a lot of work... if it happens at all now.
Hence the stress.
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what the hell dogs aren't a lot of work at all you feed them a few times a day a couple of walks let them out to pee and thats it
you just need a second dog to play with so they dont demand your attention much at all
getting only 1 dog especially if you live in a city doesn't seem like an amazing idea since you're the only fun they get all day plus work and stuff
well if you have a wife and kids staying at home its fine but otherwise idk
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On October 04 2017 08:08 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2017 05:46 Requizen wrote:On October 04 2017 04:40 killerdog wrote: If your getting a first dog, especially with people who aren't used to dogs, why get a shetler?
Much much easier to train/deal with a puppy, plus it's cuter and will end up much closer to you, than dealing with a fully grown dog who by the sounds of it isn't even properly house trained? Very disagree. I don't have time to take a puppy out every 2 hours (even at night) or housebreak/crate train it. Working with existing issues on an already trained dog that knows how to hold its pee and can sleep the night in a crate without breaking down is much easier imo. Also I'm not 100% sure that's the case. Puppy training is absolutely some work but it many cases it can be easier than dealing with a dog with emotional/social problems from being abused/abandoned or poorly trained. If being housebroken is your major concern then sure I guess, but there's often just just lot more to it with older dogs. Plus puppies are cute enough that they're literally impossible to not like. Makes any issues they cause much easier to deal with :p
And they're guaranteed to trust and love you unconditionally within a month. Seems like much less work than trying to rehabilitate an older dog. Heard way too many shelter horror stories. 
From personal experience, most people I know who learned to love dogs did so by being seduced by a cute fluffy puppy.
Nippiness can be a bit overwhelming for some larger breeds though
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On October 04 2017 08:21 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2017 07:57 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 04 2017 04:05 mordek wrote:If you're thinking about having kids stick it out  .... Yeah mordek thought of the first thing that popped into my head here. Taking care of a dog is a lot of work, but then there's kids. You guys will have to have that conversation as well I imagine... Oh yes I realize that. I'm already extremely worried, I think it's gonna be a lot of work... if it happens at all now. Hence the stress. don't worry women get chemically forced to love their kid while it exits their birth canal (and for a bit after birth) so she really won't have much of a choice there.
fun fact that's mostly the reason c-sections still aren't the norm even after most other side-effects have been successfully eliminated.
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On October 04 2017 22:46 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2017 08:21 Requizen wrote:On October 04 2017 07:57 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 04 2017 04:05 mordek wrote:If you're thinking about having kids stick it out  .... Yeah mordek thought of the first thing that popped into my head here. Taking care of a dog is a lot of work, but then there's kids. You guys will have to have that conversation as well I imagine... Oh yes I realize that. I'm already extremely worried, I think it's gonna be a lot of work... if it happens at all now. Hence the stress. don't worry women get chemically forced to love their kid while it exits their birth canal (and for a bit after birth) so she really won't have much of a choice there. fun fact that's mostly the reason c-sections still aren't the norm even after most other side-effects have been successfully eliminated. Also helped if the mother doesn't have any pain meds during the birth either.
Pain based sunk cost fallacy, saving the human race.
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She was warming up to him yesterday, I think our talk helped her to look more at the positives than negatives. Plus doggo has been pretty chill the last couple days and is getting used to the schedule. Really hoping it continues to get better from here.
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
Unconditional love is overrated, even when coming from animals. If it's unconditional, then what's the point?
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On October 05 2017 00:13 Scip wrote: Unconditional love is overrated, even when coming from animals. If it's unconditional, then what's the point? I can't believe they took away my ability to report your stupid fucking posts like this one.
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On October 05 2017 00:13 Scip wrote: Unconditional love is overrated, even when coming from animals. If it's unconditional, then what's the point?
Ya scip is looking for true love on a solid foundation of 'the implication.' I mean not that he would actually do it but, you know... just the implication.
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Not sure why that post deserves a report, it's just scrip being scrip... That one doesn't even make sense lol
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On October 04 2017 22:46 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2017 08:21 Requizen wrote:On October 04 2017 07:57 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 04 2017 04:05 mordek wrote:If you're thinking about having kids stick it out  .... Yeah mordek thought of the first thing that popped into my head here. Taking care of a dog is a lot of work, but then there's kids. You guys will have to have that conversation as well I imagine... Oh yes I realize that. I'm already extremely worried, I think it's gonna be a lot of work... if it happens at all now. Hence the stress. don't worry women get chemically forced to love their kid while it exits their birth canal (and for a bit after birth) so she really won't have much of a choice there. fun fact that's mostly the reason c-sections still aren't the norm even after most other side-effects have been successfully eliminated. Also I know this is pretty facetious but I have to comment anyway, post partum depression is also chemicals at work, and it's no joke.
Obviously req you're going to make your family decisions on your own and you don't need to consider what any of us nerds have to say about your life, I just want to make sure that's out there.
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Ya req, you do you. None of us nerds know what the fuck we're doing, or should do. Much less you. (Well, I don't, maybe these other guys do idk.)
Were just bullshitting from personal experience.
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
To be fair though if you're away 12 hours a day and she does most of the looking after of the dog I think you should be weighing her opinion slightly above yours too.
That's if it doesn't work out for her. Don't be one of those jerks that pushes her enough so she "changes her mind".
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On October 05 2017 02:25 Holyflare wrote: To be fair though if you're away 12 hours a day and she does most of the looking after of the dog I think you should be weighing her opinion slightly above yours too.
That's if it doesn't work out for her. Don't be one of those jerks that pushes her enough so she "changes her mind". Yeah I'm with you on that. But I don't want her to make a snap judgement and then regret it, I don't think the shelter will be ok if we're like "I know we just returned this dog but we decided we actually want to keep him, sorry". If she's really out I'll be behind her, but she also made a decision so we're just going to see it through, at least for a little bit.
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
On October 05 2017 00:23 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2017 00:13 Scip wrote: Unconditional love is overrated, even when coming from animals. If it's unconditional, then what's the point? I can't believe they took away my ability to report your stupid fucking posts like this one. weow fam, and I didn't even think I said anything controversial. what part of my statement would you consider stupid and what part would you consider fucking?
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