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Smashcraft was really good, yeah, sadly the way Blizzard handled the different servers (and the lack of cross-server stuff for years) meant that the EU scene never really took off. Every time he had a new version of the map, he gave it so someone could put it up in the EU custom map thing too, but because the community was split like that it was way harder to get recognition (it was amongst the first pages when it first came out and quickly dropped to around page 4 in EU because of this) and to spread the word about the map.
It was basically a hero arena without items or levels, but 4 character archetypes (psions, eg. casters, tanks, supports, and whatever the name for fighters was) in a triangle relationship wrt bonus damage, some common moves (like a timing-based guard, a quick dash akin to a non-wall-jumping flash, and an "escape" specific to each character, ranging from a cleanse+cc reduction to cleanse+MS boost to ice block) and a fury bar used for big swings with ultimate move or tactically depleted to use buffed versions of standard moves.
Everything was hitscan, both ranged and melee attacks, short deathmatches with sudden death mechanism, fast-paced, and very easy to get into.
That was the shit. 
Edit: I guess tournaments banned the train map when it was in the pool because of the troll interaction with the tossing tauren tank? That was fun but pretty broken.
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City of Tempest was the other UMS I was trying to think of.
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Wasn't Nexus Word Wars a massive thing?
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Lag station got banned because of mostly how brutal it was on shitty computers. The trolly Tauren thing was pretty hilarious too though.
But it was really fun to explain to my friends playing it that there was no autoattack function. It was balanced as hell too, 100% skill game.
Raynor Party was another really fun custom game if you have a lot of people and you don't know what to do. The old Runling Run was pretty addicting as well. And the old Island Defense was really good until they just screwed around with it. Also, until the creator DarkRevenant went full asshole and gave people the ability to buy their way into administrative powers, Mafia was really fun. Of course now mods blacklist people just for winning, and makes it toxic as fuck to play.
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I just noticed chrome tabs now have a speaker icon on them if they're playing sound.
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Yeah it was, but like the others lost it's novelty after a few games. Not to mention if it got lategame it just lagged your game like none other.
It's like, you could invest yourself in the game or... play this other f2p that is just way more robust, rewarding and supported.
@Nos, I noticed that two days ago, pretty sure it's very recent.
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Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On January 23 2014 00:34 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 00:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:On January 23 2014 00:06 JonGalt wrote:
@soniv just say poser instead of hoser/hozer. sounds just as good, works in basically all the same social situations, AND is a real MURICA insult. except I'm not a douchey toolbag you're just a poser
this guy gets it.
On January 23 2014 00:41 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 00:41 jcarlsoniv wrote:On January 23 2014 00:34 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On January 23 2014 00:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:On January 23 2014 00:06 JonGalt wrote:
@soniv just say poser instead of hoser/hozer. sounds just as good, works in basically all the same social situations, AND is a real MURICA insult. except I'm not a douchey toolbag you're just a poser rather be a poser than the first half of a Cheeffles doesn't mean much coming from a poser
this guy DEFINITELY gets it.
On January 23 2014 00:20 Frudgey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 21:17 JonGalt wrote:
so now that I've beaten FE for gba, I'm moving on to crono trigger. I just finished the trial. I like it a lot so far. I'd already do anything for marle. straight up committed perjury to prove it. I have to say I'm like 100% in favor of the games you choose to play. First Fire Emblem on the GBA and then Chrono Trigger? You're doing god's work son. Hopefully you'll enjoy Chrono Trigger as much as I did. Game was amazing for me.
why thank you very much good sir.
On January 23 2014 02:53 Dandel Ion wrote:
My wallet is Africa
I don't get this. I tried. really hard. still lost.
On January 23 2014 04:27 mordek wrote:
You guys are all awesome. I just feel the need to say that from time to time.
^ 
yeah sc2 came at a point in my life where I had the Time to finally be competitive (college with no computer restrictions yaaaaaaay) and I was so excited for it because broodwar was sooooo much fun (lurker xyz, special forces, hero arena, choose your d) but now I was old enough (and had the time) for the awesome competitive strategy part too.
but then while sc2 isn't bad, I feel bw does pretty much everything better save for the game engine things (resolution, mbs, matchmaking, 12 unit selection, etc.). but units? bw. strategy/build diversity? bw. custom maps? bw. battle.net (does sc2 still feel lonely or did they add chat rooms? REAL chat rooms.) ?? probably bw and sc2 depending on the specifics.
people just expected... more. I mean I know lotv still comin out and maybe that's the fix (as I've understood it hots has made it better?) but I dunno. sc2 was good and pretty and allowed for an easy way to compete but bw is just plain more fun.
I wish I had been old enough slash had the computer time to play iccup and shit. first game I ever played on an LCD screen was broodwar. but fuck custom games were SOOOOO good.
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in BW and WC3 you could meet people by picking the custom games you joined, in sc2 its totally random which removes a huge social aspect of the game which is what mostly made it fun when you didnt want to ladder, and most ppl didnt spend most of their time doing ladder
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On January 23 2014 06:12 Slayer91 wrote:
in BW and WC3 you could meet people by picking the custom games you joined, in sc2 its totally random which removes a huge social aspect of the game which is what mostly made it fun when you didnt want to ladder, and most ppl didnt spend most of their time doing ladder
I'm not sure I understand, but if you mean like multiple lobbies in custom games, those all exist right now.
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Pootie too good!4331 Posts
also they got rid of the coolest units. like whose fucking idea was it to get rid of the lurker, defiler, reaver, and dark archon??
I've never enjoyed terran. no idea why. always hated them. I am a toss/zerg guy. toss back in the day but now mostly zerg. toss every once in a while.
AND THE ARBITER
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The reason why SC2 custom games failed is 100% because of the popularity based joining and the lack of game room names / password type things. It removes a huge social aspect of the game. I remember in BW/WC3 you would just remake the same custom game with the same people over and over, none of which is possible now without a lot of extra work.
I remember in SC2 you would try to make a game with an unpopular map and no matter how long you waited no one would ever join because it wasnt at the top of the list. Oh well, blizzards own fault they are retarded and now I am playing LoL instead.
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Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On January 23 2014 06:13 GhandiEAGLE wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 06:12 Slayer91 wrote:
in BW and WC3 you could meet people by picking the custom games you joined, in sc2 its totally random which removes a huge social aspect of the game which is what mostly made it fun when you didnt want to ladder, and most ppl didnt spend most of their time doing ladder I'm not sure I understand, but if you mean like multiple lobbies in custom games, those all exist right now.
he means you could choose the instance of the game you wanted.
oh xxxghandhislayer420xxx is hosting special forces, yeah fuck that guy. I'm joining CoffinDancer's game cause that books awesome. plus his ping doesn't suck.
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On January 23 2014 06:19 JonGalt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 06:13 GhandiEAGLE wrote:On January 23 2014 06:12 Slayer91 wrote:
in BW and WC3 you could meet people by picking the custom games you joined, in sc2 its totally random which removes a huge social aspect of the game which is what mostly made it fun when you didnt want to ladder, and most ppl didnt spend most of their time doing ladder I'm not sure I understand, but if you mean like multiple lobbies in custom games, those all exist right now. he means you could choose the instance of the game you wanted. oh xxxghandhislayer420xxx is hosting special forces, yeah fuck that guy. I'm joining CoffinDancer's game cause that books awesome. plus his ping doesn't suck.
Pretty sure you can do that now. Just use the Open Lobbies button.
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On January 23 2014 06:25 GhandiEAGLE wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 06:19 JonGalt wrote:On January 23 2014 06:13 GhandiEAGLE wrote:On January 23 2014 06:12 Slayer91 wrote:
in BW and WC3 you could meet people by picking the custom games you joined, in sc2 its totally random which removes a huge social aspect of the game which is what mostly made it fun when you didnt want to ladder, and most ppl didnt spend most of their time doing ladder I'm not sure I understand, but if you mean like multiple lobbies in custom games, those all exist right now. he means you could choose the instance of the game you wanted. oh xxxghandhislayer420xxx is hosting special forces, yeah fuck that guy. I'm joining CoffinDancer's game cause that books awesome. plus his ping doesn't suck. Pretty sure you can do that now. Just use the Open Lobbies button.
You are wrong you cant do that. You used to be able to name a game 1v1 LT NR 20 minutes. Now you join a random 1v1 LT game.
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On January 23 2014 06:13 GhandiEAGLE wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 06:12 Slayer91 wrote:
in BW and WC3 you could meet people by picking the custom games you joined, in sc2 its totally random which removes a huge social aspect of the game which is what mostly made it fun when you didnt want to ladder, and most ppl didnt spend most of their time doing ladder I'm not sure I understand, but if you mean like multiple lobbies in custom games, those all exist right now.
at least when i played, you picked the custom game you wanted, and it sent you into a random lobby, so it was basically like solo q except without the mmr
before you could see who hosted the game for exmaple
it might just a by product of increased activity to make the old system unviable, but i dunno
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I think I've got 2 2-drop, 1 smite and 1 Shadow Word: Pain in this draft... I got screwed over by the lack of low mana drops, but I drafted badly too, not gonna end well. 
Now I gotta pray I live to turn 6 and draw my 3 Holy Fire.
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Just believe in the heart of the cards. That's all there is to it!!
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On January 23 2014 06:10 JonGalt wrote:
but then while sc2 isn't bad, I feel bw does pretty much everything better save for the game engine things (resolution, mbs, matchmaking, 12 unit selection, etc.). but units? bw. strategy/build diversity? bw. custom maps? bw. battle.net (does sc2 still feel lonely or did they add chat rooms? REAL chat rooms.) ?? probably bw and sc2 depending on the specifics.
people just expected... more. I mean I know lotv still comin out and maybe that's the fix (as I've understood it hots has made it better?) but I dunno. sc2 was good and pretty and allowed for an easy way to compete but bw is just plain more fun.
This sort of hits the crux of it (and why I brought up the SS2/Bioshock comparison).
Is Bioshock a bad game? No. But what does it offer that is an improved experience upon System Shock 2? There are many things System Shock 2 does better, and most of the things Bioshock does well are at least in some respects rehashes of things done well in SS2. If I've played SS2 what should compel me to invest $X and Y hours into playing Bioshock when most of the compelling elements are things I've seen before? And if I haven't played SS2, what should compel me to play Bioshock over getting a cheaper/free copy of SS2 that has better community mod support thanks to being an older game other than it being newer and shinier?
Obviously there are people who are hugely turned off to a game that has graphics poorer than one generation old, but given that this subforum routinely discusses old console games and handhelds, I assume that doesn't apply.
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