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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 23 2014 04:35 Requizen wrote: There need to be like, 2 hour bans for silly posting. + Show Spoiler + oh God I would have so many it's not even funny Only because you and GhandiEAGLE can't keep your banter to a medium where people actually care. Seriously all your warnings in this thread are because you two don't realize that nobody else wants to read the shitty one-liners you write to each other. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
Class has started up, and it is time to set aside the DS and go back to Steam. Guacamelee, Deadly Premonition, Dark Souls here I come! | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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Frudgey
Canada3367 Posts
I mean, me myself appreciates both games but It's just that I prefer Starcraft II over Brood War. And I know to most of you here that this is heresy, but hear me out. I was never good at Brood War. For starters I was 5 when Starcraft 1 came out, and I was about 12 years old when I first played Brood War. So I obviously could not appreciate the competitive balance and genius that was present in the game way back then. I simply wasn't old enough. The most I did with Brood War was play through the campaign several times. Fast forward to when Starcraft II comes out. I get Starcraft II the day it comes out and I have a blast with it. Here is a game with shiny graphics, an amazing physics engine (At least compared to anything else that I was used to) and the campaign was one of the best game play experiences that I've had yet. Furthermore, this is also the point where I'm making the jump to competitive multi-player when I play video games. So for me when I play Starcraft II online for the first time, I get this amazing experience of what it is like to butt heads with other people online. And because I've never played Brood War, I've never experienced what good multi-player is like. So I don't know any better! So then I suppose you could say that I should go back and give Brood War another chance. I could, but I've never been a die hard Starcraft fan. (I also don't think that Brood War aged that well from a mechanical perspective) Sure I enjoy it, but I can't see myself grinding the ladder to become a better player. It's just not my style. For me it's more important to be able to select more than 12 units in one box drag then to experience what some people would call the pinnacle of competitive gaming. I'm a casual. And I think for the casual audience Starcraft II is without a doubt better. But for the hardcore? Sure Brood War might be better. I wouldn't know as I've never scratched the layers of multi-player for that game. I guess the purpose of this post was to try and let you guys know why I like Starcraft II more than Brood War. I think both are fine games for different reasons. For the record though, the story telling in Brood War was much better than Starcraft II. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
@Frudgey, the problem with SC2 for the casual audience is that the map editor and custom games suck compared to BW/War3. After a couple iterations, custom games in Star2 suck a LOT less than they did at SC2's release, but the editor still sucks compared to War3's. Like, it's not just that Star2 appeals to "casuals", it's that you have to be a part of a pretty small narrow casual audience to want to play just ladder games and not care that the custom game system is ass compared to BW/War3. Because in past Blizzard games, that's virtually where all the casual multiplayer life-blood of the game lies. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
Partially because newbies never knew how to play the maps and thus would do shit like suicide the Fellowship to Mordor and lead to Good losing in the first 2 minutes of the games or failing basic unit micro, but still. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On January 23 2014 04:45 TheYango wrote: Only because you and GhandiEAGLE can't keep your banter to a medium where people actually care. Seriously all your warnings in this thread are because you two don't realize that nobody else wants to read the shitty one-liners you write to each other. YANGO PLS IM A CHANGED MAN | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21245 Posts
you're like 16 sit the fuck down son | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
You're Chris Brown? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On January 23 2014 05:06 TheYango wrote: @Frudgey, the problem with SC2 for the casual audience is that the map editor and custom games suck compared to BW/War3. After a couple iterations, custom games in Star2 suck a LOT less than they did at SC2's release, but the editor still sucks compared to War3's. Like, it's not just that Star2 appeals to "casuals", it's that you have to be a part of a pretty small narrow casual audience to want to play just ladder games and not care that the custom game system is ass compared to BW/War3. Because in past Blizzard games, that's virtually where all the casual multiplayer life-blood of the game lies. Mind explaining yourself about the SS/BS comparison? Haven't played any of the 2 so my only experience is some context (as in how SS2 blew people's minds in a way that would only get shrugs now because at the time it was new) but I'm pretty curious. Also, since you're talking about the War3 map editor and I've been reading DotA 2 GD today (as in, today I read the pages from early december where a notyango bait ended up in a real discussion about mechanics), how much of War3 map editor was hacking (in the css sense, not the pirating sense) compared to innate stuff? I remember playing around a bit with triggers but not any of the elaborate stuff like triggers on particular spell cast or damage occurrence, and that several maps couldn't be loaded in the editor because it gave a message saying they had been modified in ways foreign to the editor. Was it because of the lock (so people couldn't edit their maps)? Reading the DotA 2 GD thread the editor seemed much more powerful than I'd have thought at the time, so their wasn't the need for any external tools to edit the maps like the message seemed to imply. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
you still spell Gandhi wrong | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On January 23 2014 05:30 mordek wrote: Yango is dead-on as usual. I spent hours and hours in BW and WC3 custom maps. Literally all I played with my brothers on the computer before WoW came out. SC2 custom maps were unremarkable since last I checked. Only game I came close to enjoying was starstrikers, some dota rip-off, and some 3v3 arena, and that lasted like a few days. They were so unremarkable I'm still trying to remember the names or at least something to google. Basically there's no LANability. SMASHCRAFT Bonus points for using BlazBlue tracks. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21245 Posts
On January 23 2014 05:33 Nos- wrote: I liked the 6v6 ship battle UMS, forget the name though It was just called "Star Battle" lol. | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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