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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 21:41:51
January 14 2014 21:41 GMT
#18721
Listening to a Smite talk youtube video - this past week's guest was Squiddish (a community content dude). Someone asked him a question about balance, and his answer was:

"I think Smite is in a fairly good spot right now. There will always be gods that are slightly better or worse than others. Just look at League, how long has that game been out? There are still champs that are pretty trash, and then there's...Riven"
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
January 14 2014 21:42 GMT
#18722
On January 15 2014 06:41 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Listening to a Smite talk youtube video - this past week's guest was Squiddish (a community content dude). Someone asked him a question about balance, and his answer was:

"I think Smite is in a fairly good spot right now. There will always be gods that are slightly better or worse than others. Just look at League, how long has that game been out? There are still champs that are pretty trash, and then there's...Riven"


I mean, I could disagree, but we'd all be lying to ourselves.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 22:00:06
January 14 2014 21:57 GMT
#18723
On January 15 2014 03:13 Alaric wrote:
Ogre Battle will destroy you far harder than FFTA's law system, though.
I'm still stuck at the battle including a NPC-Selye in the neutral route of Tactics Ogre, had I known I'd rather have restarted battles thrice rather than get most people to level 22, she may only be 2 levels lower but every single level has such a huge impact in Tactics Ogre that having the enemies scale with my party's in this battle makes her so hard to save. Dammit


Yeah, I can pretty vividly imagine that. I did play tactics ogre for awhile and it's possible I might have stopped at that mission for that reason, given my love of random leveling. In FFTA2 it's not so much that the law system destroys me, it's that I accidental break the law and have to restart to get my phat lewt. Oops, I decided to cure my charmed dude by hitting him with a stick and there's a no-blunt-weapons law. The worst battle by far though was one where I couldn't target any adjacent squares. It was not strategically difficult (I had plenty of ranged options) but I restarted at least 10 times because unlike the blunt weapons one you really could screw it and forget yourself in so many different ways, but I really wanted the extra loot because it unlocked more weapons -> more abilities.

Also, pretty sure the game is racist against the nu mou people because they were the only race I ever saw laws against using them and that law cropped up 3-4 times. That's the thing about the law system. If I want to play through the campaign with a team of nu mou, a team of warriors, or whatever other crazy idea I got, just let me try, please, I'm only doing it cause its fun.

FFT for PS1 certainly had its share of flaws but I'm just surprised that, well, it seems like there isn't a proper successor.

edit: I did not read all of last page... that explains why tactics ogre was like FFT, doesn't it. huh.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
January 14 2014 21:59 GMT
#18724
On January 15 2014 06:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:
FF Tactics $15 on iphone

not worth right now

$10 on PS store for the original, $10 for the PSP version (which you probably want because in retrospect the translation for the original is pretty awful).
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
January 14 2014 22:02 GMT
#18725
On January 15 2014 06:59 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 06:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:
FF Tactics $15 on iphone

not worth right now

$10 on PS store for the original, $10 for the PSP version (which you probably want because in retrospect the translation for the original is pretty awful).


When I first played the original I didn't think there were translation problems but then somewhere in act 2-3 I lost my understanding of the plot. Then the ending didn't make sense. Then again it was an FF game.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
January 14 2014 22:02 GMT
#18726
On January 15 2014 06:59 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 06:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:
FF Tactics $15 on iphone

not worth right now

$10 on PS store for the original, $10 for the PSP version (which you probably want because in retrospect the translation for the original is pretty awful).


ain't got no PSP

I've never owned a Sony product, always been a Nintendo kid
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 14 2014 22:02 GMT
#18727
On January 15 2014 06:41 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Listening to a Smite talk youtube video - this past week's guest was Squiddish (a community content dude). Someone asked him a question about balance, and his answer was:

"I think Smite is in a fairly good spot right now. There will always be gods that are slightly better or worse than others. Just look at League, how long has that game been out? There are still champs that are pretty trash, and then there's...Riven"

Soniv always used to tell me how Riven was the height of balance and how he enjoys seeing her in games. It's the one thing he misses from League.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 14 2014 22:04 GMT
#18728
Streaming some Smite~

http://www.twitch.tv/requizen
It's your boy Guzma!
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
January 14 2014 22:07 GMT
#18729
On January 15 2014 07:02 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 06:59 kainzero wrote:
On January 15 2014 06:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:
FF Tactics $15 on iphone

not worth right now

$10 on PS store for the original, $10 for the PSP version (which you probably want because in retrospect the translation for the original is pretty awful).


When I first played the original I didn't think there were translation problems but then somewhere in act 2-3 I lost my understanding of the plot. Then the ending didn't make sense. Then again it was an FF game.

I think FF8 was monumental in terms of localization, and starting with FF10 they actually had a localization team sit down with the story writers as they were writing the story in order to get better understanding of what they were trying to accomplish.

It's actually amazing when you consider how bad many games in the PS era were horribly localized, and even more amazing when some of these series after good localization end up even worse. (Off the top of my head, the Mana series.)
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
January 14 2014 22:12 GMT
#18730
On January 15 2014 07:02 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 06:41 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Listening to a Smite talk youtube video - this past week's guest was Squiddish (a community content dude). Someone asked him a question about balance, and his answer was:

"I think Smite is in a fairly good spot right now. There will always be gods that are slightly better or worse than others. Just look at League, how long has that game been out? There are still champs that are pretty trash, and then there's...Riven"

Soniv always used to tell me how Riven was the height of balance and how he enjoys seeing her in games. It's the one thing he misses from League.

It amuses me when people complain about Riven.
Jaedong :3
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
January 14 2014 22:27 GMT
#18731
On January 15 2014 07:02 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 06:41 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Listening to a Smite talk youtube video - this past week's guest was Squiddish (a community content dude). Someone asked him a question about balance, and his answer was:

"I think Smite is in a fairly good spot right now. There will always be gods that are slightly better or worse than others. Just look at League, how long has that game been out? There are still champs that are pretty trash, and then there's...Riven"

Soniv always used to tell me how Riven was the height of balance and how he enjoys seeing her in games. It's the one thing he misses from League.


trufax, she's the fox news of league
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 14 2014 22:31 GMT
#18732
On January 15 2014 07:12 ReketSomething wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 07:02 Requizen wrote:
On January 15 2014 06:41 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Listening to a Smite talk youtube video - this past week's guest was Squiddish (a community content dude). Someone asked him a question about balance, and his answer was:

"I think Smite is in a fairly good spot right now. There will always be gods that are slightly better or worse than others. Just look at League, how long has that game been out? There are still champs that are pretty trash, and then there's...Riven"

Soniv always used to tell me how Riven was the height of balance and how he enjoys seeing her in games. It's the one thing he misses from League.

It amuses me when people complain about Riven.

Released riven was balanced. Then they overtuned her numbers
liftlift > tsm
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 14 2014 22:41 GMT
#18733
SONIV

GOLDEN HEL
GOLDEN AMC

THE PATCH IS JUST FOR US HALLELUJAH
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 14 2014 22:46 GMT
#18734
Release Riven was a design mess.

On January 15 2014 07:02 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 06:59 kainzero wrote:
On January 15 2014 06:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:
FF Tactics $15 on iphone

not worth right now

$10 on PS store for the original, $10 for the PSP version (which you probably want because in retrospect the translation for the original is pretty awful).


When I first played the original I didn't think there were translation problems but then somewhere in act 2-3 I lost my understanding of the plot. Then the ending didn't make sense. Then again it was an FF game.

The story's actually very well-written and flows pretty smoothly when you've got the key pieces, however there is a huge amount of backstory and geopolitical information that can make it hard to get into. It's a bit like LoL : you can understand the process behind pushing and stuff pretty easily once you've got the basis covered, but when you first start you're all "what does my dude do? What's last-hitting? Why do all the little minions attack me?" etc.
The translation's good enough for all I can say as a non-native English speaker, the thing that may put people off are names like the Nanten and the Hokuten that don't stick as easily when you have to recognize the different factions.

FFT has a more crowded backstory than Tactics Ogre, however the "current political situation" is more entangled in Tactics Ogre, what with the foreign intervention within a country populated by 3 ethnic groups in uneven proportions. I think the writer said he wanted it to resonate a bit like what happened in the Balkans a few years earlier (the Bosnian War).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
January 14 2014 22:50 GMT
#18735
req that was a short stream. i am presently queueing up to smite some newbs
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 14 2014 22:51 GMT
#18736
I was getting lag spikes, didn't know what was causing it so I just killed the whole thing.

I'll probably get on after food.
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 14 2014 23:01 GMT
#18737
@alaric. How was released riven a design mess?
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 14 2014 23:05 GMT
#18738
AD-scaling shield on a champion who's made to stack AD because of her whole kit (and the way her passive plays on a kit which ratios are already on par with AD assassins like Talon, while her ult synergises so hugely with it) was a recipe for disaster.
The amout of synergy was huge too, and she also came with 2 hard-cc and enough mobility to outrun people while bootless. She's got a bit of everything (except sustain and range, and even then her reach and mobility and "long-term" mobility too are still big) and she went bonkers in most of these domains. A creeper.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
January 14 2014 23:16 GMT
#18739
On January 14 2014 19:31 Cixah wrote:
Apparently Ghostcrawler was hired at Riot.

Can I sharpen my pitchfork now? I don't want him to ruin this like he ruined wow

I don't know much about his patches, but I do know that he was incredibly arrogant and disdainful towards QA.

Which is a terrible attitude to have.

On January 14 2014 21:15 JonGalt wrote:
sooooo I'm fighting the final boss in FE + Show Spoiler +
the dragon. I assume he's the final boss
and I'm pretty sure I'm going to lose everyone haha. I'm not sure I can win. only 4 of my 12 fielded characters can even do damage! fuck man.

Galt pls

Also you get Athos like, specifically so if you're superbad you still have a way to beat FF7.

On January 14 2014 21:15 JonGalt wrote:
even still, this is my favorite tactical game I've played. far better than ffta in my opinion. the inventory/shopping system is annoying as fuck and poorly put together though (so is ffta but at least i can do it outside of battle). when I wanna sell something, why are the options sell-> sell or QUIT??? also I did almost no talking between characters. was that supposed to happen on the battlefield? I love doing alllll the conversations in games but with electricity issues I took a minimalistic approach.

I'm looking forward to buying the newest handheld and FE when I get back.

The GBA ones have a slight UI issue but then again they are like really old and translations of even older Japanese games. Support conversations are also amazing and full of hidden lore.

On January 15 2014 01:43 Alzadar wrote:
I know that leaving no character behind is pretty standard for FE players, but do most other people only use Iron weapons? I can never bring myself to damage my beautiful Steel or Silver weapons, and using a Killing Edge or a unique weapon is beyond luxury. Only bargain brand for my troops!

Using only Iron Weapons increases the difficulty if you need even more of a challenge. But in things like Hector Hard mode if you want to S-Rank it you pretty much have to.

Also I horde stuff and I hate seeing things like Legendary Weapons lose durability. So yeah sometimes. In FE:Awakening though Armsthrift means I stop caring haha.

On January 15 2014 05:06 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Prepare your bodies kids:

http://kotaku.com/the-creator-of-final-fantasy-tactics-wants-to-make-anot-1501254600?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow

I regret not backing the Phoenix kickstarter since I didn't know about it. This really piques my interest though.

On January 15 2014 06:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:
FF Tactics $15 on iphone

not worth right now

Get Bravely Default.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 14 2014 23:20 GMT
#18740
I thought Bravely Default wasn't out in NA yet?

Also I just dislike Tactics games. FE, FF:T, SMT:Devil Survivor, couldn't stand em, just bore me to tears. I mean, the stories are fine and what not, I just can't stand the combat.

Only exception is Advance Wars for some reason.
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