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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 13 2014 18:49 GMT
#39001
On May 14 2014 03:46 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 03:42 Cixah wrote:
Kibler is at... i think 10? in that game. The opposing "burning jund" player is all out of threats due to various poor trades and discards from kiblers deck. After playing 3 bonfires in the game, the Jund player has a virtual one hit kill and only out being the 4th bonfire for 10. 32 cards left in his deck in game 3 when both the other matches were finished.

TLDR: 3 Lucky 5 Me.

On May 14 2014 03:39 Requizen wrote:
What is miracle?


Miracle is THE top deck mechanic in Magic.

Miracle XR (the casting cost for bonfire is XXR), If this is the FIRST card you would draw for the turn, you may instead reveal this card and cast it for it's miracle cost.

So, if you topdeck the card, it's cheaper? I don't know how resources work in Magic.


Correct, which while not exactly the best it makes for some REALLY stupid magic. Especially when combined with Sensei's Divining Top.

MOST miracle spells are X spells so you can dump some pretty obscene amounts of mana into them when they are miracle'd. When the casting cost of a spell gets effectively halfed it has some pretty damn explosive plays.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 13 2014 18:49 GMT
#39002
On May 14 2014 03:46 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 03:42 Cixah wrote:
Kibler is at... i think 10? in that game. The opposing "burning jund" player is all out of threats due to various poor trades and discards from kiblers deck. After playing 3 bonfires in the game, the Jund player has a virtual one hit kill and only out being the 4th bonfire for 10. 32 cards left in his deck in game 3 when both the other matches were finished.

TLDR: 3 Lucky 5 Me.

On May 14 2014 03:39 Requizen wrote:
What is miracle?


Miracle is THE top deck mechanic in Magic.

Miracle XR (the casting cost for bonfire is XXR), If this is the FIRST card you would draw for the turn, you may instead reveal this card and cast it for it's miracle cost.

So, if you topdeck the card, it's cheaper? I don't know how resources work in Magic.


Yeah, you nailed it.
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 18:52:24
May 13 2014 18:51 GMT
#39003
On May 14 2014 03:46 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 03:42 Cixah wrote:
Kibler is at... i think 10? in that game. The opposing "burning jund" player is all out of threats due to various poor trades and discards from kiblers deck. After playing 3 bonfires in the game, the Jund player has a virtual one hit kill and only out being the 4th bonfire for 10. 32 cards left in his deck in game 3 when both the other matches were finished.

TLDR: 3 Lucky 5 Me.

On May 14 2014 03:39 Requizen wrote:
What is miracle?


Miracle is THE top deck mechanic in Magic.

Miracle XR (the casting cost for bonfire is XXR), If this is the FIRST card you would draw for the turn, you may instead reveal this card and cast it for it's miracle cost.

So, if you topdeck the card, it's cheaper? I don't know how resources work in Magic.

Right, instead of the normal casting cost of XX+R which is a tad prohibitive, you'd need 21 lands or some other mana source to deal the necessary 10 damage. Since he drew it as his first card it's instead X and a red mana so now you only need a total of 11 mana to deal 10 damage which is much more realistic.

#FullSlowpoke
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
May 13 2014 18:52 GMT
#39004
oh man sensei's divining top that card brings back memories
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 13 2014 18:53 GMT
#39005
X is a variable amount then? So the XR cost for X damage means it does as much damage as the amount of (typed?) mana that you put in?

A whole system I don't understand o.O
It's your boy Guzma!
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 18:58:36
May 13 2014 18:57 GMT
#39006
On May 14 2014 03:53 Requizen wrote:
X is a variable amount then? So the XR cost for X damage means it does as much damage as the amount of (typed?) mana that you put in?

A whole system I don't understand o.O


X is just like algebra, but you get to pick the value of X and then supply that much mana into it.

So if I have 11 lands in play, and miracle this bonfire I just drew, I can "tapout" and hit you for 10 because 1 red mana to cover the r and then the other 10 lands make up the X.

Or 9, or 8. It just a matter of choice at that point.

In the NON miracled Bonfire, the X values must match. So if you choose x = 5, you would need r, 5, 5. to cast it and deal 5 damage.
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 18:59:45
May 13 2014 18:59 GMT
#39007
I quit.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 19:02:13
May 13 2014 19:00 GMT
#39008
Imagine Flamestrike read: "If this is the first card you draw this turn, dump as much mana as you want into this card. Take the total mana you spent, minus 1, and then do that much damage to everything your opponent controls and to his face as well."

The power of top decks!
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 13 2014 19:03 GMT
#39009
On May 14 2014 03:59 mordek wrote:
I quit.


Level 1 Judge explanation skills OP.
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
May 13 2014 19:05 GMT
#39010
On May 14 2014 04:03 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 03:59 mordek wrote:
I quit.


Level 1 Judge explanation skills OP.

You going for L1? I thought about it but I don't have the time commitment for it right now. I also have to catch up on so many mechanics T_T
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 13 2014 19:05 GMT
#39011
Magic sounds fun!

...

I will not start another expensive hobby I will not start another expensive hobby
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 13 2014 19:05 GMT
#39012
Calling that mechanic "Miracle" is pretty troll-ish, though.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 13 2014 19:06 GMT
#39013
On May 14 2014 04:05 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 04:03 Cixah wrote:
On May 14 2014 03:59 mordek wrote:
I quit.


Level 1 Judge explanation skills OP.

You going for L1? I thought about it but I don't have the time commitment for it right now. I also have to catch up on so many mechanics T_T


I don't really get to play often, and without putting too much time into it Judging PTQ's and going to some GP weekends isn't the worst. Plus I REALLY want that judge pack this year That pack alone is going to retail for 300 at vendors lol.
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 19:08:07
May 13 2014 19:07 GMT
#39014
Foil Force of Will right? Or alternate art or something Do it moonbear!
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 13 2014 19:09 GMT
#39015
On May 14 2014 04:07 mordek wrote:
Foil Force of Will right? Or alternate art or something Do it moonbear!


Foil FoW, Old Border Sword of Feast and Famine, "Phyrexian Text" Elesh Norn.
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Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
May 13 2014 19:12 GMT
#39016
On May 14 2014 04:05 Requizen wrote:
Magic sounds fun!

...

I will not start another expensive hobby I will not start another expensive hobby

Just for the record, Magic has the potential to make Warhammer 40k tabletop look cheap by comparison. Just a fair warning.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 13 2014 19:15 GMT
#39017
But you only need one deck to play...
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
May 13 2014 19:16 GMT
#39018
On May 14 2014 04:00 MoonBear wrote:
Imagine Flamestrike read: "If this is the first card you draw this turn, dump as much mana as you want into this card. Take the total mana you spent, minus 1, and then do that much damage to everything your opponent controls and to his face as well."

The power of top decks!


this would be the same as flamestrike is now pretty much its just you need the extra card for face damage as well
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 13 2014 19:18 GMT
#39019
That feel when you really want to buy more models but you already have a bunch to put together/paint and also the store is closed.

LET ME GIVE YOU MY MONEY
It's your boy Guzma!
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
May 13 2014 19:22 GMT
#39020
On May 14 2014 04:15 mordek wrote:
But you only need one deck to play...

Hence why I said Magic has the potential to make tabletop Warhammer look cheap. I know that you can easily play Magic on a budget, but it's so easy to spend tons on Magic. I mean I look at some of my friends, and if I look at how much they spent on Magic and then spent that same amount on Warhammer, I could easily field 2 painted armies and get plenty of accessories.

Of course that being said, I think Magic is much cheaper to get into.
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