• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:54
CEST 16:54
KST 23:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly4Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"5ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!34Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)103
StarCraft 2
General
Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? 3kb/s downloading patch..... are we back to 1998? Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly INu's Battles#18 - Cure, herO, Rogue & ByuN Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Industrial Park New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate
External Content
Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recent recommended BW games screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool
Tourneys
2v2v2v2 Tournament Escore Tournament - Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Star Con San Diego 2026
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs Fighting Spirit mining rates Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread 2026-27 Football Thread placeholder TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Games, Hormones, and "Dark" …
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9305 users

Off-Topic General Discussion - Page 1757

Forum Index > The Shopkeeper′s Inn
Post a Reply
Prev 1 1755 1756 1757 1758 1759 5162 Next
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
April 25 2014 08:53 GMT
#35121
I played 2 hours of Dark Souls today. I played with intent and determination. I made zero progress.
Retvrn to Forvms
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 25 2014 09:00 GMT
#35122
On April 25 2014 17:53 Chrispy wrote:
I played 2 hours of Dark Souls today. I played with intent and determination. I made zero progress.

Sounds about right,
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 25 2014 09:00 GMT
#35123
On April 25 2014 14:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
I managed to reconnect after turning off stream.
Warrior got himself up to 46 health with the help of armorsmith...came down to topdeck wars in the end and I won.
Stream's back up if anyone cares.

Edit: Also thanks Frudgey, I tend to get the voice compliment a lot. <3

Wait, you plowed through 46 health with the "fuck minions I only play direct minion removal spells" hunter deck? How the heck did that happen?

Regarding your drafting, I personally use Antigravity's tier list just because it's more accessible (means I type "ant" in URL bar and it's in the autocompletion list, hue) but I rely less and less on it as I go. It's still useful for classes I don't usually play (like Warrior or Hunter or Mage). I can generally tell what the good cards are but the tier list helps differenciate between 2 average cards for example.
They also tell you about the mindset of the player: I know I tend to draft tempo decks because of starting with Rogue, with a lot of removal, defensive buffs to keep my minions alive and general board control, but in turn most of the time I lack strong finishers (in the beginning a lot of my losses came down to me losing steam/momentum after dropping my opponent to 10~15 HP, and even now it's different because I usually have a stronger early, not because I have a finishing blow). Trump, on the other hand, is obsessed with card value and builds balanced curves centered aroud the 3-5 range while taking every strong card he comes across. So you can use the tier list and ask yourself "Why does he value this card so much, especially over that one?" and see what implicatons it could have on your playstyle.

About the curve I'd say don't bother about it at all for your first 12-15 cards, look to build a solid core for your deck by drafting card value, and then start building around it. You still look at value, and you start considering combo potential (like yesterday's "fuck buzzard, you got no UTH, but take that auctioneer for your fuckton of spells"), but you progressively weight mana cost more, especially if your curve is tilted. If you're unlucky you may have to throw away very high value because you desperately need a 2 or 4 drop (happened more than once to me x_x) but as you get more experienced it'll be more RNG and less you waiting to long to look at your curve.
I guess it depends on the classes you play too. I almost exclusively play Rogue (and Warlock at the beginning) but my 12-wins run was on Priest and I seem to do somewhat decent on Paladin (def. saw an improvement when I ran Paladin 5-6 times in a row). Are there any you're more comfortable with?

On April 25 2014 14:53 Cixah wrote:
Someone Explain mafia to me. I feel completely clueless even reading the General Guide in the TL Mafia Thread

Thiercelieux (Mafia "light" that I play live once a month when i don't fail to notice that they changed the day T_T) is pretty simple to me: I used to be rather aggressive (calling people out with no clues, and telling the GM jokingly "I just wanted to hear his voice so I make him defend himself") to try and get people to participate, especially new ones, and I died within 2 days. I tried not saying a single word, and I died within two days (once I was Mafia and died the first night because a Vigilante shot my lover, unknowingly killing me by proxy ).
Sometimes I'm lynched, sometimes Mafia brings me to the altar. It's a pretty consistent game for me though.

Also live games are like 40-60 minutes for a group of 20+ people, and 25-30 when we're around 12.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
April 25 2014 09:12 GMT
#35124
alright, so TLLOLOTGDGN today?
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
April 25 2014 09:15 GMT
#35125
On April 25 2014 18:12 Lord Tolkien wrote:
alright, so TLLOLOTGDGN today?


It is the last friday, but with no one else really setting it up I doubt it again. Getting stuck on nights and weekends blows
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
April 25 2014 09:15 GMT
#35126
In that warlock vs hunter game you basically had to take the risk of him using UtH because he was being hyper aggressive and going only for your face. I don't really think you drafted much if any taunts so basically the only way you could win was to flood the board and outpace him. Could have done that after the mc tech. Also there was no point to lifetap i think ever that game. You always had plenty of cards and didn't need any cards, and vs hunter lifetapping can sometimes be suicide.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 25 2014 12:14 GMT
#35127
On April 25 2014 14:01 Cixah wrote:
Respect for Scip: - 1000.

I just watched the majority of the config team we have get fired.

Anyone know SQL and want to move to Texas? <3


Sorry, I have a strict "all coworkers must be alive" policy

On April 25 2014 16:09 Cixah wrote:
I more than likely will start playing some. It's not like I don't have infinity hours squared to post from work.


Yeah dude, mafia is great when you just have hours and hours to blow on a forum. I would love to play more if I had the time/it was a higher priority on my "games I want to play" list.

I love when we get random people popping in here lol. hai yamato
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 12:59:30
April 25 2014 12:59 GMT
#35128
When drafting for arena, shouldn't you grab spells and combo cards in the early rounds unless it's a have to have creature then switch and prioritize creatures later on because you don't know if the spells will come again?

I have no idea how to play HS, just guessing
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 25 2014 13:12 GMT
#35129
Actually a pretty nice day today

sun is shining, wearing shorts
the couple Orks I did last night feel sturdy (I wasn't sure how the glue I got would work)
it's Friday
going to hang with RL friends and do 40k crafty things tomorrow

^.^
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
April 25 2014 13:20 GMT
#35130
On April 25 2014 10:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:


I fucking love this sport

Sick stuff. I played with an Indy Alley Cat member for a summer. I wish we had fields to play on like that, it's so different on hard ground to make those layouts lol.

Agree #2 was awesome, #1 is a callahan which doesn't happen often at that level.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 25 2014 13:24 GMT
#35131
On April 25 2014 22:20 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2014 10:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p5MCvl20Ho

I fucking love this sport

Sick stuff. I played with an Indy Alley Cat member for a summer. I wish we had fields to play on like that, it's so different on hard ground to make those layouts lol.

Agree #2 was awesome, #1 is a callahan which doesn't happen often at that level.


The summer league I played in down in CT was on turf, which was nice, but diving easily leads to turf burns.

I miss it so much. If I was more in shape and actually worked at running/stamina, I would actually be really good at ultimate. It's really cool to see it becoming a professional sport.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 25 2014 13:25 GMT
#35132
No you should only really pick combo cards when you already have stuff that you can use with them. Unless the other cards are even worse.

Cuz otherwise your deck just sucks if you don't get any other of the combo parts.


Generally speaking you won't go too wrong if the first ~10 or so cards you just pick the best card of the three, after that you pick for curve too ("picking for curve" will almost always mean more 2drops + some 3drops, but sometimes it's the opposite)
A backwards poet writes inverse.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 13:32:42
April 25 2014 13:30 GMT
#35133
On April 25 2014 22:24 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2014 22:20 mordek wrote:
On April 25 2014 10:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p5MCvl20Ho

I fucking love this sport

Sick stuff. I played with an Indy Alley Cat member for a summer. I wish we had fields to play on like that, it's so different on hard ground to make those layouts lol.

Agree #2 was awesome, #1 is a callahan which doesn't happen often at that level.


The summer league I played in down in CT was on turf, which was nice, but diving easily leads to turf burns.

I miss it so much. If I was more in shape and actually worked at running/stamina, I would actually be really good at ultimate. It's really cool to see it becoming a professional sport.

I need to play more than once a week at pickup if I were to actually get good and I just don't have time. Almost did a summer league but too busy

Also I'd be planning game night tonight like I did for February's but I have family coming over and I need to play it by ear. If my wife and her sisters go over someone's house to hang out I'm in. What the heck poll time:

Poll: Interested in game night tonight?

Yes (4)
 
67%

For a little while (1)
 
17%

I'll be late (1)
 
17%

No (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Interested in game night tonight?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): For a little while
(Vote): I'll be late
(Vote): No


It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 25 2014 13:37 GMT
#35134
On April 25 2014 21:59 Shelke14 wrote:
When drafting for arena, shouldn't you grab spells and combo cards in the early rounds unless it's a have to have creature then switch and prioritize creatures later on because you don't know if the spells will come again?

I have no idea how to play HS, just guessing

Depends. For example, cards like Auctioneer and Violet Teacher, which have effects based on using spells (draw a card/create a token, respectively), shouldn't be taken early on if you don't have spells or aren't sure you'll get enough to make them worth it (Rogues, Priests, Mages are more likely to receive/pick spells over Warriors or Paladins for example-is a weapon considered a spell? Can't recall).
In actuality their stats aren't that bad so it's not too big of a loss to pick them, but if I have to decide between a Yeti (4/5 for 4) and an Auctioneer (4/4 for 5), or a Shieldmasta (3/5 Taunt for 4) and a Violet Teacher (3/5 for 5) during my first cards, I'll choose the former over the latter for value.

Questing Adventurer (2/2 for 3, gets +1/+1 for every card you play after him) can be very powerful if you have a lot of low cost cards to play in the same turn to make him sturdy (at least make him survive so you can keep buffing him after), so you pick him if you have a bunch of 1-2-3 cost card already.

Typically, you don't pick Hunter cards relying on Beasts to have net value early on (like Starving Buzzard, 2/1 for 2, draw everytime you play a Beast, or Houndmaster, 4/3 and give a Beast +2/+2 and Taunt upon being played, for 4) because although it's easy to make a Beast deck in constructed, you can't rely on drawing enough to make the combo cards worth it...
So you end up with Wave's "I don't have minions but 8+ cards just to kill your shit" Hunter draft, finely crafted to make your opponent ragequit. Or lose 5-3, I guess.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 13:38:52
April 25 2014 13:38 GMT
#35135
I'll probably be around tonight, and I will likely be drinking some, but I think I'm gonna be all over the place tonight. Might play a game with a coworker for a while, want to build some more orks, and want to get some more Smite ranked games in.

But we'll see, if I'm bored and people are playing games I may join in.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 25 2014 13:44 GMT
#35136
So, a friend is playing Dark Souls 2 and telling me every last detail.

Best moment so far.

He has this epic battle with a troll, defeats the beast with all of his courage and valor, and then the dead troll falls on him and kills him.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 25 2014 13:44 GMT
#35137
I mean, ok, fucking spoils Ketara
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 25 2014 13:47 GMT
#35138
You are a dork.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
April 25 2014 13:48 GMT
#35139
I personally think hunter is hard to draft. You can easily get screwed by what they offer you.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
April 25 2014 13:53 GMT
#35140
On April 25 2014 22:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I mean, ok, fucking spoils Ketara

Yeah dude

I think there's even like, undead in the game or something
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Prev 1 1755 1756 1757 1758 1759 5162 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Weekly
11:00
WardiTV Mondays #97
IntoTheiNu 1527
WardiTV1245
Ryung 137
Rex137
CranKy Ducklings60
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Ryung 137
Rex 137
ProTech81
SHIN 25
RushiSC 21
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 9993
Rain 5621
Bisu 2308
Jaedong 1238
Shuttle 1187
Mini 500
Light 438
EffOrt 425
Zeus 418
firebathero 365
[ Show more ]
Stork 219
ZerO 212
Snow 183
ggaemo 138
Pusan 119
hero 106
PianO 105
Free 100
Sea.KH 67
Mind 60
JulyZerg 53
Hyun 48
sorry 32
Sexy 32
Terrorterran 29
Barracks 26
sSak 21
Killer 20
Hm[arnc] 18
Sacsri 18
zelot 16
Shine 14
yabsab 13
ajuk12(nOOB) 6
Dota 2
Gorgc2310
qojqva1403
Dendi796
syndereN332
Counter-Strike
byalli738
x6flipin200
Other Games
hiko926
Lowko619
B2W.Neo433
Mlord389
crisheroes370
Fuzer 281
uThermal242
Liquid`VortiX225
Hui .169
elazer129
XaKoH 124
Mew2King96
ZerO(Twitch)19
Trikslyr14
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 1514
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 8
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH254
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP10
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1373
• WagamamaTV515
• Noizen34
League of Legends
• Nemesis3366
• TFBlade340
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
1h 6m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
19h 6m
INu's Battles
20h 6m
Cure vs herO
ByuN vs Rogue
PiGosaur Cup
1d 9h
The PondCast
1d 19h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 20h
Patches Events
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Escore
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
ByuN vs SHIN
Solar vs Lambo
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Clem vs Serral
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
Acropolis #5
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Acropolis #5 - TRS
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.