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On April 19 2014 04:07 Requizen wrote:
Oh man I kind of want to do a Tempestus/Imperial Knights army. But those $140 Knight models...
But then think of the excellent pictures you could post onto the Off-Topic General Discussion!
Trust me, it'll be worth it. All of it.
On April 19 2014 05:47 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I think Frudgey has replaced you as #1 reqfanboi .AK
Yeah that sounds about right.
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Some tabletop tournaments require your models to be painted.
The rest it's just sort of an unwritten rule that if your models aren't painted you're kind of a douchebag.
PS: Warhammer is dumb, it is the SC2 of tabletop. Req should play Field of Glory, it is the BW of tabletop.
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Played the tutorial and a few games of Heroes of the Storm, and it's pretty much league with the focus solely on team fighting. If you know how to team fight well, you'll do well. It's pretty fun, I just kinda wish the game didn't feel slow.
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BAMMMMMMMMMM. Wow! Today ran way longer than I wanted to but I'm finally done. Just gotta drive 6 hours now to get home aka chilliwack.... The best fucking place on earth, second to Mexico resorts of course. Happy Easter to all you awesome gents and the ladies  . Now I'm going to sing along to some music.
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On April 19 2014 06:16 Shelke14 wrote:BAMMMMMMMMMM. Wow! Today ran way longer than I wanted to but I'm finally done. Just gotta drive 6 hours now to get home aka chilliwack.... The best fucking place on earth, second to Mexico resorts of course. Happy Easter to all you awesome gents and the ladies . Now I'm going to sing along to some music.
Wtf that's so close to Seattle
RIP
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On April 19 2014 06:08 Ketara wrote:
PS: Warhammer is dumb, it is the SC2 of tabletop. Req should play Field of Glory, it is the BW of tabletop.
I concur.
Warhammer isn't nearly as interesting as Warhammer 40k. Glad we're on the same page.
:D
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By Warhammer I mean anything made by Games Workshop.
Suck it.
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On April 19 2014 06:22 Ketara wrote:
By Warhammer I mean anything made by Games Workshop.
Suck it.
That's fine. What don't you like about Warhammer?
I know it's not for everyone but I'd like to hear your reasons for disliking it.
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I don't have anything against Warhammer. It's awesome.
It's just a business model designed to sell books and figures, with rulesets that are more about having goofy silly fun time than having serious competitions.
There are other tabletop model games that are actually designed to be serious and competitive, like Field of Glory or De Bellis Multitudinis.
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On April 19 2014 02:02 Duvon wrote:
Woot, sale on Kingdoms of Amalur. DLing now. The demo was really nice, looking forward to it.
Magic is broken, you have been warned. I actually got it recently on the PC after getting it on release for the 360. It's fun, a nice action-RPG, story is kinda lacking and generally wtf-is-going-on, but the fighting is pretty seamless, at least for ranged and melee, higher level magic just kinda explodes everyone and everything, I think I ended up 4-shotting the final boss? lol
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On April 19 2014 05:02 Kyrie wrote:is having painted models required to play? seems like there's some serious baller potential here
As was said, tournaments require painted models (though I haven't based any of mine yet).
It's also just a matter of etiquette. No one wants to bring their nicely built and painted models and look across the table at unpainted or even unfinished models.
On April 19 2014 05:40 .AK wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2014 05:02 Kyrie wrote:is having painted models required to play? seems like there's some serious baller potential here For the big GTs, it is generally required to have "table top quality" models which is usually the model having 3 colors and based. For local tournys and whatnot, people don't really care. So Req, are you looking to actually play some Warhammer or you more of a collector? Edit: Totally forgot I was your number one fanboi, good times. #REQFORPRES
I plan to play, I just need to finish up the army and then find a good place for it. The GW near me has some campaigns, but aside from a couple cool dudes the players are kinda meh. Kids (who don't always follow the rules, as kids do), flaky people who only show up to half the meetings, people who leave halfway through games because they didn't allocate enough time, etc.
I'm looking around, but I don't know of any FLGS near me that does anything. The one I know about has a good 40k/WHFB section for models and paints, but they don't have like a 40k night or anything, so I don't know how to go about finding people to play with there.
Sigh, I need irl friends who play.
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On April 19 2014 06:35 Ketara wrote:
I don't have anything against Warhammer. It's awesome.
It's just a business model designed to sell books and figures, with rulesets that are more about having goofy silly fun time than having serious competitions.
There are other tabletop model games that are actually designed to be serious and competitive, like Field of Glory or De Bellis Multitudinis.
This is true. GW has basically said they consider it a "beer and pretzels" style game, meant to be fun to play with people you know. There's a lot of jokes about "Forging a Narrative", but it really is designed to be a setting where your dudes fight your friend's dudes. While they shoot for balance overall, the way they release codices and editions never really lends itself to perfect balance, as seen with the current meta of Taudar, AM, and Daemon Screamerstars dominating most other armies (though this may change with 7th edition and the new Orks coming out).
I like the setting, and I'm not super serious about it, so it works for me. Also, I'm not a huge fan of historical stuff, preferring fantasy or sci-fi settings.
Also, I realized a bit ago that Adepticon, a really big 40k convention, was near me. I was busy those days and probably couldn't have gone to compete, and my army wasn't finished anyway, but maybe next time it comes around I'll go.
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The way GW designs their codexes in general is that every army book that comes out is something of a soft counter to the previous army book.
That way if you want to be competitive at their events, you have to keep buying everything as soon as it comes out.
Also, at official GW tournaments, you're only allowed to use figures made by GW. Sometimes you're even only allowed to use figures made by GW within a recent timespan. I was literally barred from entering a GW tournament for having figures in my army that were made by GW but over 10 years ago at one point.
I haven't played a GW tabletop game in years though. Still have all my figures though, they're pretty. And they can be used for all sorts of other stuff like D&D and shit.
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On April 19 2014 06:54 Ketara wrote:
The way GW designs their codexes in general is that every army book that comes out is something of a soft counter to the previous army book.
That way if you want to be competitive at their events, you have to keep buying everything as soon as it comes out.
I see your point but I feel that many things in our life are structured this way.
I mean, because of Capitalism, we have to keep consuming goods. Like I feel that products aren't built to last so that we purposely have to go out and buy more. I mean I think every company does whatever they can to keep us buying their goods.
And I mean, duh, I know this is common sense, but I guess the point I'm trying to make is that many things (perhaps not everything) are marketing things in such a way that we have to go out and buy the "latest thing", just so we can have the competitive edge, because it's more efficient, works better, or just simply broke, etc. Because I mean, if they didn't, they wouldn't be around any more.
I just think that's how our society as a whole works.
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On April 19 2014 06:54 Ketara wrote:
The way GW designs their codexes in general is that every army book that comes out is something of a soft counter to the previous army book.
That way if you want to be competitive at their events, you have to keep buying everything as soon as it comes out.
Also, at official GW tournaments, you're only allowed to use figures made by GW. Sometimes you're even only allowed to use figures made by GW within a recent timespan. I was literally barred from entering a GW tournament for having figures in my army that were made by GW but over 10 years ago at one point.
Well, that's not entirely true. Aside from the reeeeally old codexes (Sisters of Battles, Orks, and Blood Angels), most everything can be competitive if you build it right and play smart, it's just that certain codexes have an easier time. Heck, even Space Wolves, who are still using an old 5th ed Codex, are fairly competitive with the right units and allies. The Space Marine codex and Tyranid codex (both the newest aside from supplements) are considered balanced middle tier.
Certain armies just mesh better with the ruleset. BA, Orks, and Tyranids are hurting right now because 6th ed really messed with Close Combat style armies, while Tau, Eldar, and Astra Militarium are shooting-focused armies that never did well with CC, so they're flourishing. The introduction of Allies made Eldar great because they can ally in units and then buff them with their amazing psychic powers (hello Jetbike Council with DE allies).
Daemons are fucking broken because of a gimmick that gives a Daemon Prince a 2++ invulnerable save that's rerollable, so basically you can't kill the fucker and have to tarpit it. Hopefully that gets fixed in the next edition, tournaments are already saying 2+ and 3+ rerolls are defaulted down to 4+ on the reroll because they're so annoying.
That last one sounds kinda sketchy. You might have been barred for trying to proxy an old model as a new one (which is one of their sticking points), but I see plenty of people playing with old pewter models. Hell, Sisters don't actually have any new models made in the last ~5 years or so.
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The point is that you shouldn't think of GW games as something serious and competitive.
You should think of them as something casual and designed to be fun rather than to be balanced.
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Well sure. I don't think it's viable to "go pro" in, or anything like that. If I did, I'd have started with Eldar and built Wave Serpent spam lists with a Tau buff commander ally 
Just because it's not designed to be competitive doesn't mean it can't become that way, though. Look at SSBM.
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On April 19 2014 07:00 Frudgey wrote:
I mean, because of Capitalism, we have to keep consuming goods. Like I feel that products aren't built to last so that we purposely have to go out and buy more. I mean I think every company does whatever they can to keep us buying their goods.
Keep in mind that because of advances in FEA (finite element analysis), products are much more streamlined. Instead of throwing heaps of material on something to make sure it works, engineers can now analyze their product, see the most common uses and where it will be stressed the most, and remove excess material that otherwise would've protected it from unexpected use.
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Play2bebest. Only way to live. Playing to have fun when there is people to beat means you've accepted being no good.
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On April 19 2014 07:09 Shelke14 wrote:
Play2bebest. Only way to live. Playing to have fun when there is people to beat means you've accepted being no good.
Go back to curling with that attitude.
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