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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On March 11 2014 10:09 red_ wrote: But Riot poached Ghostcrawler, so shouldn't they be the ones taking pages from... I am so confused right now. Plot twist there is no balance book | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Wouldn't said Tinkmaster nerf make it so decks with 7-8 Legendaries in them are even better than they are now? | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
On March 11 2014 10:24 Ketara wrote: I already barely play Hearthstone because I feel like a lot of Legendaries are totally overpowered and that it's bullshit how pay to win the game is. Wouldn't said Tinkmaster nerf make it so decks with 7-8 Legendaries in them are even better than they are now? The decks that are playing "Good Generic Minions" with Rags/Yseras are going to be much stronger. Faceless Manip will also see more play because of this, but the upside is that with the new changes to Pagel you can kill him before he puts you into the start of a hole. Ultimately I feel like nothing changes too much. The control decks get a bit stronger in the mirror match but slightly weaker all around due to the lack of consistent pagle. Shaman might get even better because of how strong Mana Tide actually is. Just have to wait and see. Silence might be a thing again. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On March 11 2014 10:24 Ketara wrote: I already barely play Hearthstone because I feel like a lot of Legendaries are totally overpowered and that it's bullshit how pay to win the game is. Wouldn't said Tinkmaster nerf make it so decks with 7-8 Legendaries in them are even better than they are now? I remember Doa said something about this when the game was first released and it was basically "TCG's were the original pay to win game." | ||
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On March 11 2014 10:51 Shelke14 wrote: Titanfall looks good but it is just another game i wont play after a week was just thinking the exact same thing | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On March 11 2014 10:50 onlywonderboy wrote: I remember Doa said something about this when the game was first released and it was basically "TCG's were the original pay to win game." That's pretty true. But IMO Hearthstone does it a little bit differently than like Magic does, or at least how I used to remember Magic doing it back when I played it when I was in highschool (lawl) In Hearthstone it's very blatant that cards in general get better the rarer they get. There are some outlier rare and better cards that are just awful, but in general Legendaries are more cost efficient than Epics which are more cost efficient than Rares, etc. As far as I remember, in Magic the rarity of the card has very little to do with how good the card is, and a lot of the absolute best cards in the game for serious play are commons. Maybe it's just rose colored memory and I'm totally wrong, though. | ||
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
Yeah, I'll love playing it for that week. Sesh it for 20-30 hours then never again like BF 4 | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
On March 11 2014 10:54 Ketara wrote: That's pretty true. But IMO Hearthstone does it a little bit differently than like Magic does, or at least how I used to remember Magic doing it back when I played it when I was in highschool (lawl) In Hearthstone it's very blatant that cards in general get better the rarer they get. There are some outlier rare and better cards that are just awful, but in general Legendaries are more cost efficient than Epics which are more cost efficient than Rares, etc. As far as I remember, in Magic the rarity of the card has very little to do with how good the card is, and a lot of the absolute best cards in the game for serious play are commons. Maybe it's just rose colored memory and I'm totally wrong, though. Not entirely, Lets just say there hasn't been an Uncommon in QUITE some time that has had to be banned (I think the last one to do so was Artifact Lands). Generally the rarer the card in MTG the more "Power Budget" it has. Because if you print Jace the Mind Sculptor at common (like they do with reprints in Yugioh) you end up with the card economy crashing hard for that particular card. HS is different in that the cards are GENERALLY very inefficient at common and for the most part rare. There are obvious things that break that rule, but the ones that do are played in almost every deck at the moment. | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On March 11 2014 10:57 Cixah wrote: Not entirely, Lets just say there hasn't been an Uncommon in QUITE some time that has had to be banned (I think the last one to do so was Artifact Lands). Generally the rarer the card in MTG the more "Power Budget" it has. Because if you print Jace the Mind Sculptor at common (like they do with reprints in Yugioh) you end up with the card economy crashing hard for that particular card. HS is different in that the cards are GENERALLY very inefficient at common and for the most part rare. There are obvious things that break that rule, but the ones that do are played in almost every deck at the moment. That's only partially true though since there are a lot of powerful cards below Rares in some of the recent sets. Off the top of my head, the non-rares that are banned in MtG (a lot are from fairly recent sets too): + Show Spoiler +
That's not to say that a lot of really good cards aren't Rare/Mythics though. But Uncommons/Commons can still pack a punch (Delver of Secrets wat) | ||
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caelym
United States6421 Posts
On a related tcg topic, I probably shouldn't have but I traded in all my standard staples and unplayed modern/legacy staples and spent a big chunk of money on a playset of tarmogoyfs. | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
Most of whats listed above are banned either because the cost effiency of the above cards is too high (Bloodbraid is 4cmc that does MINIMUM 3 damage and can cast a 3 CMC spell or lower for free), or are just completely bonkers in combonation with other cards in that format (CounterBalance Top is already a deck in Legacy that would DIRECTLY port over to modern if one of the 2 wasn't banned, and Clamp makes Affinity even more dumb, while Dread Return makes dredge NEAR unplayable in Modern). Most of the Modern banns are simply because they want to have a different format that a Direct port back to Legacy. Edit: Make Delver Green and it wouldn't be as bonkers IMO. | ||
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caelym
United States6421 Posts
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On March 11 2014 11:26 Cixah wrote: Preordain, Ponder, Windfall, Gush and Mistep are banned because Blue Spells are OP. #BanBlue. Most of whats listed above are banned either because the cost effiency of the above cards is too high (Bloodbraid is 4cmc that does MINIMUM 3 damage and can cast a 3 CMC spell or lower for free), or are just completely bonkers in combonation with other cards in that format (CounterBalance Top is already a deck in Legacy that would DIRECTLY port over to modern if one of the 2 wasn't banned, and Clamp makes Affinity even more dumb, while Dread Return makes dredge NEAR unplayable in Modern). Most of the Modern banns are simply because they want to have a different format that a Direct port back to Legacy. Edit: Make Delver Green and it wouldn't be as bonkers IMO. Oh no I totally get why they're banned (even if sometimes part of me wishes I could play some of those cards esp the Modern banned ones). I mainly just disagreed that there were Uncommons that needed to be banned. Still, if you want a really strong deck you're still forking out for a lot of them Rares/Mythics. (Fetchlans ho!) On March 11 2014 11:20 caelym wrote: On a related tcg topic, I probably shouldn't have but I traded in all my standard staples and unplayed modern/legacy staples and spent a big chunk of money on a playset of tarmogoyfs. Congrats! On the plus side, if you ever want to port over to Legacy or another Tarmo deck at least you've got the big stuff out of the way. | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
I played Magic right when it came out, enjoyed it in higschool, kind of stopped playing, and then years later sold all my cards for a veritable boatload of cash and I have never regretted this. | ||
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
On March 11 2014 11:51 Shelke14 wrote: Isn't the whole point of Darksouls to be really hard..... Why if i pre purchase the game do I get 10 weapons and armor.... Unless its like Drake Sword/ Demon Soul's Makoto good, it doesn't really help much (especially to those still relatively new to Demon/Dark Souls series). The armor even less so. Fuck I'm going to see if I can last till May before I get Dark Souls 2...... | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
At least I don't have to worry about Dark Souls 2 since I'll be nowhere near finished the game yet. | ||
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