[NA IHs] Running at Dusk - Page 126

New inhouse logistics TBD. In the meantime, feel free to hang out in the league general discord https://discord.gg/0lCEKA3jUEFxERzd ("add lol" in #welcome) and get some ad-hoc games going!

Roffles

Pitcairn19291 Posts

October 19 2013 06:46 GMT

#2501

On October 19 2013 15:24 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Alpha Stroke*

Fuck off

Seuss

United States10536 Posts

October 19 2013 07:28 GMT

#2502

On October 19 2013 15:24 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Alpha Stroke*

Alpha Struck.

Roffles

Pitcairn19291 Posts

October 19 2013 07:37 GMT

#2503

ROFL MILO

Amui

Canada10567 Posts

October 19 2013 08:03 GMT

#2504

On October 19 2013 16:37 Roffles wrote:
ROFL MILO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFK7C1RB_94&feature=youtu.be

Look mom, no eyes!

yawn

Canada200 Posts

October 19 2013 17:54 GMT

#2505

We have the best TF players here.

GozoShioda

205 Posts

October 19 2013 21:28 GMT

#2506

som1 spectate one of my solo q games and tell me how bad i am

Pooshlmer

United States1001 Posts

October 19 2013 23:19 GMT

#2507

Trying to start one, come join!

Zdrastochye

Ivory Coast6262 Posts

October 20 2013 02:23 GMT

#2508

Kissblade confirmed Mathies smurf.

GGs tonight, finally got to play with Navi.

And that full YOLO game. So fun.

sylverfyre

United States8298 Posts

October 20 2013 03:10 GMT

#2509

On October 19 2013 15:19 Roffles wrote:
I ONCE GANKED AS MASTER YI AND ALPHA STRIKED A CREEP.

I remember that. You were ganking for me. I even landed my CC on him before you came in.

You Alpha Struck Out.

Pooshlmer

United States1001 Posts

October 20 2013 08:33 GMT

#2510

Things learned today:

If you ward their blue, and their jungler is not at their blue at 2:30-3:00, it's pretty obvious where he is.
I have no idea how to play against Caitlyn in lane.
Oracles and wards are too good, can't wait for S4.
Milo is cursed.
Aura's Aatrox is a permaban.

noFear

Canada36 Posts

October 20 2013 13:49 GMT

#2511

I'm Jannall (Zyra and Thresh):

So I got my first 2 inhouses yesterday and I want to start off saying it's really great that you guys are setting up those games with lowbies. I like how everyone contributes to commenting the game afterward on both sides, as a lowbie the amount of information coming at you is a lot to handle but it's really meaningful. So on with commenting my games:

- It's pretty clear that I have some map awareness issues but it didn't hit me as hard as the fact that past laning phase, I'm having a really hard time knowing where to be and establishing the right objectives and positionning in the game. After laning with Thresh, there's a point in the game where I completely lost focus of where we were in the game, I ended up roaming and trying to figure out without thinking where to be. It put me back severely on XP, and led to me being cut off and killed alone 3 times during the game and not being present in fights where I should have been.

- I also still have troubles evaluating/knowing when we have an advantage during laning phase, thus knowing when to engage, when to zone out, when to be aggressive/passive against the other team. I still think I did alright during laning in both my games, although I missed some binds/hooks that would've led us to not taking that much dmg or securing a kill faster.

- I usually do good with warding the proper spots during the game, however I never really thought about: is it time a good time to ward their side or our side? In fact along with my first point I should really work on having a better global view of where we're standing in the game and what I'm supposed to do.

- I was surprised to do better with Zyra than with Thresh, but then again I got caught out of position and roamed so much with Thresh that I pretty much asked to have a bad game. It went a lot better with Zyra than I expected so yee!

- Thanks to Zdra, made me again realise that a support's full build = Wards with wards, and some wards. Oh and don't forget the extra wards.

SO anyway, thanks for the game, here's hoping to get some insights from the people that were in those games ^^.

Oh: that Paaassive. (I'm french canadian so screw you guys!)

Zdrastochye

Ivory Coast6262 Posts

October 20 2013 14:09 GMT

#2512

On October 20 2013 22:49 noFear wrote:
I'm Jannall (Zyra and Thresh):

So I got my first 2 inhouses yesterday and I want to start off saying it's really great that you guys are setting up those games with lowbies. I like how everyone contributes to commenting the game afterward on both sides, as a lowbie the amount of information coming at you is a lot to handle but it's really meaningful. So on with commenting my games:

- It's pretty clear that I have some map awareness issues but it didn't hit me as hard as the fact that past laning phase, I'm having a really hard time knowing where to be and establishing the right objectives and positionning in the game. After laning with Thresh, there's a point in the game where I completely lost focus of where we were in the game, I ended up roaming and trying to figure out without thinking where to be. It put me back severely on XP, and led to me being cut off and killed alone 3 times during the game and not being present in fights where I should have been.

- I also still have troubles evaluating/knowing when we have an advantage during laning phase, thus knowing when to engage, when to zone out, when to be aggressive/passive against the other team. I still think I did alright during laning in both my games, although I missed some binds/hooks that would've led us to not taking that much dmg or securing a kill faster.

- I usually do good with warding the proper spots during the game, however I never really thought about: is it time a good time to ward their side or our side? In fact along with my first point I should really work on having a better global view of where we're standing in the game and what I'm supposed to do.

- I was surprised to do better with Zyra than with Thresh, but then again I got caught out of position and roamed so much with Thresh that I pretty much asked to have a bad game. It went a lot better with Zyra than I expected so yee!

- Thanks to Zdra, made me again realise that a support's full build = Wards with wards, and some wards. Oh and don't forget the extra wards.

SO anyway, thanks for the game, here's hoping to get some insights from the people that were in those games ^^.

Oh: that Paaassive. (I'm french canadian so screw you guys!)

Hey Jannell, was great to play with you yesterday, keep joining up!

Your Zyra game was great, and you were a big factor in winning the game for your team. Not much to say, you warded everywhere your team needed, hit roots when you needed to, and had at least decent ults. Your Thresh game honestly wasn't as bad as you think it was. Like you said your laning wasn't all that bad and it wasn't.

Yeah that's my playstyle to buy lots of wards, like... 3 stacks of wards and oracles are all I need, but I do go overboard at times, and it's more of a flaw if the enemy team just spends the next three minutes pushing in a lane together, but you can get less wards than me and still use them effectively.

I'd say the biggest thing for you to improve on is watching the minimap as your laning comes to an end, and mimicking the movement of either the enemy team's jungler, or their support. If they are heading mid, go to mid yourself. A lot of your deaths (I believe) were due to you roaming and getting caught, or warding (correct me if I'm wrong) which really just means you're warding when there's 3-4 champions missing and you're putting yourself in dangerous situations. As support you really don't have to make any kind of catches or plays for your team on your own, and generally you're better as a follow up than you are as an initial engager. The mid fight that you guys won on the Thresh game started with you hooking me (the Janna) into deciding to not start the fight, and then 4-5 seconds later when your team engaged you followed up and I believe you guys traded 4-1 or 4-0. Really good decision making to wait.

I guess as an addendum, if you want to ward more often, focus on warding a) where your team wants to force action/the paths that the enemy team will take to get to your team and b) (more risky) where the enemy team is focused on fighting (this is where you might potentially die while warding if you don't time it correctly). I rarely die while warding merely because if there's a chance of their team being there, I don't try to ward it.

Dusty

United States3359 Posts

October 20 2013 14:09 GMT

#2513

When playing with people that work together wards are more important for supports than items. In yoloq you should prioritize items over wards (yes seriously) although you should still buy a decent amount of wards. for example if I play support zyra I like to save up for sightstone sorcs + rylais + liandries and that's my goal in terms of builds. Maybe if you're sona/soraka you want to get a mikaels/morellos, maybe if you're thresh/leona you want a shurelya's or locket/aegis (even a secondary one).

also for oracles, a general rule of thumb is that as soon as the bot towers go down, get oracles and keep them up constantly. because oracles are broken item

Zdrastochye

Ivory Coast6262 Posts

October 20 2013 14:19 GMT

#2514

Yeah seriously keep oracles up 100% of the time after your first purchase (16-22 mins in). Can't understate how important that is.