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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 26 2013 04:11 GMT
#8521
Playing ranked 5s with irl friends. Enemy team laneswaps, I'm screwed because Darius can't 1v2. That said, when our jungler goes bot... they die. They die in a 3v1 dive.

HOW DO YOU LOSE A 2V1 LANE PLEASE TELL ME


This is just solo queue with people i can't report or cuss at.
It's your boy Guzma!
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
May 26 2013 05:17 GMT
#8522
On May 26 2013 13:11 Requizen wrote:
Playing ranked 5s with irl friends. Enemy team laneswaps, I'm screwed because Darius can't 1v2. That said, when our jungler goes bot... they die. They die in a 3v1 dive.

HOW DO YOU LOSE A 2V1 LANE PLEASE TELL ME


This is just solo queue with people i can't report or cuss at.


Get Req'd.
By 4 other Req-like players.

Don't you wish you could miss sej ults just as well as me?
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 07:22:08
May 26 2013 07:19 GMT
#8523
Yesterday my laptop was doing one of its "Your going to have 10 fps in ARAM" moments.

As graves, i missed a flash-E-Q-R.

Some diamond player started shouting at me

I was sad.

But srsly, fuck that ARAM map, i get 25 steady FPS on summoners in massive fights but never above 15-20 in ARAM. When they released this garbage map they were all "Players on laptops should experience 20% performance boost!" So, i would have had 8 FPS on PBE or something? Because i sure as hell didnt get any boost.

The difference between 25-30 fps and even just 15-20 is huge. 10 is un-fucking-playable.
Useless wet fish.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
May 26 2013 09:02 GMT
#8524
Playing anivia. Blow egg and flash at level 1 to get bot lane a double kill, knowing that they have an eve jungle and xerath mid. I die rather predictably at level 3 despite playing as safe as I could.

And yet that didn't cost me the game. How the fuck does bottom lane proceed to let the ezreal go legendary after double killing at level 1?
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 26 2013 09:48 GMT
#8525
People's attitude toward reporting is pretty annoying. They'll just yell for reports against anyone going negative if they lose, and they'll refuse to report anyone who doesn't flame them in all chat if they win. I don't care that "people can have a bad game", and "I didn't notice anything worth reporting in his play", I've told you three times in a row that the game spent the game blaming, complaining and raging in the team chat. I even told you "it's not about his score, but his attitude". Yo, you won, the dude didn't feed intentionally, so whatever he did it's 0K?
Double standards are annoying.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 10:10:14
May 26 2013 10:09 GMT
#8526
Ugh, 2 games where i cant carry hard enough (7-3, 8-5 -_-) and another where a couple of early derps by me snowballs into a raging top lane and afk support. (Im the reason top fed 0-5 when i didnt even derp up there but gave him a kill) ended 3-2-11 after an 0-2 start zz

so now im 0-3 after promotion and fearing demotion. Zzzz
Useless wet fish.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 26 2013 12:01 GMT
#8527
On May 26 2013 18:48 Alaric wrote:
People's attitude toward reporting is pretty annoying. They'll just yell for reports against anyone going negative if they lose, and they'll refuse to report anyone who doesn't flame them in all chat if they win. I don't care that "people can have a bad game", and "I didn't notice anything worth reporting in his play", I've told you three times in a row that the game spent the game blaming, complaining and raging in the team chat. I even told you "it's not about his score, but his attitude". Yo, you won, the dude didn't feed intentionally, so whatever he did it's 0K?
Double standards are annoying.


How are we supposed to know if you are telling the truth and he did flame?People constantly say I flame them and such in all chat when I don't say a single word lol.Unless someone says something in all chat or does some clear feeding I wouldn't ever report them.And if he does flame he can just write a normal message that he isn't and that you are.Why would people report without actually knowing what happened?

Finals biggest counter to league .
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 14:56:56
May 26 2013 13:25 GMT
#8528
When people tell me "xxx flamed, report pls", I ask about it (as in more details) in the post-game chat, and if the opposite team maintain its version then I report the guy, adding that "his team claimed he flamed, I'll let you judge the chat log".
I mean, sure the Tribunal could click "punish" without reading, but I prefer to take the risk (also knowing that bigger bans are manually reviewed before being enforced, thus normally avoiding possible false positives) than let a flamer run loose.

I played Nautilus top last game. As in, until around 7 minutes in, I spent my time farming top. Our top laner didn't disconnect. He was just a retarded moron picking Ignite/Exhaust and no MR runes Pantheon versus Rumble top and Lee jungle, and then proceeded to go 2-1 when Lee stole the red (we were purple side) and rushed him into 5-4 as he spent the aforementioned first 7 minutes of the game ignoring the creep wave to rush Rumble, dive him, and die to the tower (earning Rumble a kill).
Our botlane got destroyed in the process (Graves/Leona losing to Ezreal/Sona who didn't do golems is stupid as shit, especially when after his first back Ez had only dblade+Tear, but hey), but since I had to stop the creeps from crashing into the tower top, I couldn't go all the way down and help them.
Rumble showed up to the first fights with a large kill lead despite his pathetic farming, and a nice Seeker's/Sorcs/Guise core.
It's gotta be said that dumbass Pantheon managed to die everytime I wasn't in the bush to zone Rumble because of his habits, and afterwards TF hit 6 and Pantheon not buying wards and keeping the bullshit going had earned him 4-5 more deaths, and as many kills and assists for Rumble, TF and sometimes Lee.
Panth ? Some guys have a bad game. But you're an utter moronic half-wit not even able to read what the rest of the team told you, and despite your being in Silver IV I've spectated a good deal of Bronze players displaying more game knowledge and basic LoL common sense than you. Get fucked, please.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Capricious_LoL
Profile Joined December 2012
United States222 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 15:19:12
May 26 2013 14:56 GMT
#8529
On May 26 2013 04:16 petered wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 23:35 Capriccioso wrote:
I think this thread should be deleted and the general mentality behind it removed from the minds of everyone. There is absolutely no reason to get mad over a game when life gives you plenty more to get mad about. Games should be havens for having fun. Most of this thread just looks like boring BS no one cares about. That being said, I think interesting anecdotes do have a place and maybe those could be relegated to a different thread.


For some people, fun = competing. Yes it can also mean anger when you lose, but that doesn't mean it isn't a worthwhile pursuit for your free time.

It is silly to me that people try to shoehorn video games into a single purpose. Some people play them to relax/have fun, others find it more fun to improve their abilities and compete to win. Just because you fall into one of those camps and not the other doesn't mean that others have no right to treat their games that way.

The one thing you got right is that this thread is mostly boring BS that no one cares about, but that doesn't make it worthless. In fact, most threads on TL are boring BS that no one cares about, it is all just a matter of finding the right audience. In this case I still read this thread occasionally even though I don't play the game, just because I find many of the stories entertaining.


The best way to improve your abilities and compete to win is to have fun and never rage. Treating your games, be they filled with the worst human beings in the world as teammates, in such a way that you become part of the rage, will hinder any goal you hope to achieve within the game.

I also did agree that some of the stories are entertaining. I guess my naive goal with these posts is to create a utopia where no one ever rages or has a bad mentality, starting with TL, the premier esports community. Otherwise, I might as well participate in r/leagueoflegends or Riot forums.
NA LoL: Capriciøus
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
May 26 2013 15:12 GMT
#8530
@Capriccioso
Being disappointed or angry at myself works wonders for me for motivation, but I guess it doesn't count as rage when you don't flame others?

In other news: I gank bot twice and get our cait 3/0/1 vs the enemy 0/2/0 Vayne.
Next time I check that same Vayne is 16/2.
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
May 26 2013 16:05 GMT
#8531
On May 26 2013 18:48 Alaric wrote:
People's attitude toward reporting is pretty annoying. They'll just yell for reports against anyone going negative if they lose, and they'll refuse to report anyone who doesn't flame them in all chat if they win. I don't care that "people can have a bad game", and "I didn't notice anything worth reporting in his play", I've told you three times in a row that the game spent the game blaming, complaining and raging in the team chat. I even told you "it's not about his score, but his attitude". Yo, you won, the dude didn't feed intentionally, so whatever he did it's 0K?
Double standards are annoying.


And what about people that start trolling because you picked MF top ? Like, Heimerdinger and Nunu Flash/Smite, both ends at 1/23/2 and 0/22/1, plus a Soraka that fed Yorick top (and even when he was 3/0 I was able to outtrade him), had smite/revive, afk half the game and ends up at 1/11/1.
Oh, obviously they were flaming as fuck. But guess what ? When we asked the opposite team to report them, our 3 feeders said "they instalocked" (talking about Talon and me), which was false, and the 5 of them got on their side.

I mean, they say "they instalocked", which was false, they have no proof, while it's OBVIOUS they were feeding them on purpose (Soraka goes on Yorick "hit me once I go turret" multiple times), and they were flaming in ALL CHAT, ffs they saw it, but no, better report the only 2 that were trying to play. Heimer was also like "hey dance at baron", and they all go, wtf.

Started the game by planning to report 3, ended up reporting 8, fucking bunch of stupid retarded motherfuckers.
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
May 26 2013 17:38 GMT
#8532
Just lost a 45 minute 4v5 that we were winning on kills. -30 LP. Least deserved loss of points ever. Had to solo lane Alistar against Sona/Varus and kept our tower up until 19:00, and got 90 cs during that time. Didn't die until the last teamfight at 45 min.

Team games suck.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 07:14:08
May 27 2013 07:07 GMT
#8533
Oi, demoted to gold 4 again. Game 1 of an enormous headache: Silver 3 ADC who picks Draven after I pick Janna, against a Twitch/Taric. Falls like 70 CS behind 20 minutes end, ends up getting doubled when the game wasn't too out of hand (and I was warding meticulously, so he wasn't getting zoned too hard- he was just missing like half of his cs). Later tries to lecture our team on what to do when approaching baron fights when he's clearly not right (go in immediately when they can't burn it down quickly.. lol), I mention the fact he's been doubled in CS then he tries to argue I duoed with one of the other people on the team. Check after the game and he duoed with arguably our 2nd least productive member. He also has 10 games of ranked approximately (why the eff do I support for these guys? ugh).

2nd game I play a very good Thresh against Leona, get our Kog quite fed. Our mid Yi goes AD (with 5 zeals) when we have like 0 magic damage aside from me and Koggles- still, not enough to really be a huge threat. I get demoted in a game I went 1/1/13. I get the fact you don't always win games you do well in, but if he just went effing AP we probably would have won. Exacerbated by the fact he was obsessed with split pushing and my team ran headlong into stupid 4v5s (not that it mattered, we were bleeding towers and Yi couldn't 1v1 anyone on the enemy team).
SF-Fork
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Russian Federation1401 Posts
May 27 2013 08:51 GMT
#8534
I hate people that in ranked claim: let me adc(which is MY main position) I am smurf I carry.

I check their stats and I see that they have 800 normal games and 600 ranked games. I tell them, you're not a smurf and even if you were, adc is the worst position for carrying since you so heavily depend on your support. I believe that if you really are a much better player, you should take mid or top and win your lane easily without need for ganks.

So I support the draven smurf-claiming adc as an alistair. He is overly aggressive and I have a hard time following him. He blames me for every mimsshap and flames everyone else as well. I tell him: look, I am playing to the best of my ability (bronze II). I really don't know how to play any better. I told you, smurfs don't carry as ADC.

We end up winning the game, not thanks to our carry. All our team reported him :D
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
May 27 2013 08:54 GMT
#8535
trying as hard as i can to be a team player, but i think lol just really wants to destroy my faith in its ranked system.

Got into a game today where everyone was squabbling over who got what, so i picked support as FP to help some ppl play what they felt comfortable with. The AD carry starts auto attacking minions, i ask her to stop. She says she doesn't understand why. I explain last hitting mechanics, she rages at me. She has 40 cs at 22 mins.

We lose handily, at around 30 mins. I lose 25 LP. My last 3 wins were for 1 LP and they were all 40+ min games. I have these sort of games all the time (3-27 in my last 30 games). I never go negative, i buy wards, I work as a team, and i still get shit on by the ranked system. It makes me not want to play Riot's game. I think they should improve the Ranked system.
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 27 2013 11:38 GMT
#8536
3-27 -> your hidden Elo took a dump. You can't go below 5th division (I take it you're already in it, Gold V, Silver V, something like that? if not you're probably on your way to demotion) because you can't drop a tier, so in that case you stay visually at 0 LP, when in reality it'd be something like -60 or whatever. So the system has to account for it: it has to give you LP, but you can't jump from -60 to +15, so it gives you the minimal amount, while removing the "standard" amount for losses (eg. a bunch because your current league is alot higher than your Elo).

TL;DR the system works, it's just deliberately unintuitive, so to simplify things consider your current league/division placement as a landmark on the road to your long term placement.
(And yes, people usually take it badly because it's telling them "yo, if you lose more LP than you gain it's because you're worse than your current league, it's not your "true level" but a peak".)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 11:53:08
May 27 2013 11:52 GMT
#8537
On May 27 2013 20:38 Alaric wrote:
(And yes, people usually take it badly because it's telling them "yo, if you lose more LP than you gain it's because you're worse than your current league, it's not your "true level" but a peak".)


It would be more logical to win more LP than you lose when playing against better player/in a higher division, like it was on iCCup for BW.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
May 27 2013 13:41 GMT
#8538
Look, I can stand a game where I go 7/1 and the team is 7/23. But if that same team then goes on to flame ME, not because of me not giving them kills (which was impossible, I handed them a couple of kills on a silver platter and they still refused to take them), but because I "baited them into dying", when said person didn't even come close to my lane (I was mid).
I mean, how retarded do you have to be when you are 0/8 as a jungler and then try to 1v1 the enemy 15/2 Lee?
Also, apparently it's my fault that the Elise can't dodge the last tick of morg ult with Rappel???
Well, at least I'm confident in my own skill now lol.
OmegaKnetus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany431 Posts
May 27 2013 14:48 GMT
#8539
Had to afk as jayce mid for 5 minutes, I come back everyone flames me, report, etc. Game ends with me having 7 kills more than anyone else and 50 more cs than my teammates.

Guess who got blamed for the loss! It wasnt the 1/10 vayne feeding as usual X_X
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11716 Posts
May 27 2013 14:54 GMT
#8540
Yeah, but you are the asshole that goes afk for 5 minutes. I really hate that kind of behaviour. If you can't plan your time accordingly, don't play a multiplayer game. It is just egoistic to risk ruining the game for the other players just because you can't plan your shit.

You not being there can have pretty large influences on the rest of the players on your team, even if you later manage to come back somehow. It usually means that your jungler has to hold mid for a long period of time, meaning that the enemy has free roam on the rest of the map. There no longer is any risk of ganks or counterganks, and they can easily invade any buff they like because they always have a numbers advantage.
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