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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
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samthesaluki
914 Posts
On August 24 2012 22:14 h3r1n6 wrote: When someone says something along the lines "omg fucking noob jungler gank top", I will go to their lane and hide in a brush, tell them to bait an engage, watch them die 1v1 and walk off, telling them that there was no opportunity for me to go in. I find that way more entertaining than winning a game. genious but instead you should say remember im a noob jungler i never gank top. | ||
Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On August 24 2012 23:28 samthesaluki wrote: genious but instead you should say remember im a noob jungler i never gank top. And remember to use smilies, always use smilies. sorry i messed up :'( there really wasn't much i could do to help >.< | ||
Catch]22
Sweden2683 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11313 Posts
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
On August 24 2012 19:31 EquilasH wrote: 1) It's a good thing that you're limiting yourself to just 2 roles. Imo the best way to learn the game and get to a higher Elo is to literally spam one champion every game. For example if you wanted to exclusively play Cassiopeia (this is a really good choice btw because she's strong but she's not played a lot), then you just say in champ select every game "I prefer mid - it's much better than my other roles". The most important thing is that in the first 100 games or so just pick that champion into EVERYTHING - it doesn't matter if your team says that you're against a hard counter or whatever. Then when you've learned everything there is to know about said champion you can start only picking it into favorable matchups or whatever. This may sound a bit like you only improve with one champion, but from my experience that's not the case at all and you'll see a huge general improvement just because you'll slow down learning about the specific champion and you can start putting your focus elsewhere. You could obviously also do this with support or any other role. 2) Playing from behind is actually relatively simple in the lower Elo bracket since 90% of the time the enemy team will have someone out of position - what you need to do is lead your team and try to stay as 5 MOST of the time (and then be very very careful when you're not all there), and you need to establish some sort of map control with warding etc. so you can see when someone is out of position from the other team, and at that point you'll want to do one of two things. a) You can often catch said person in the jungle/river/whatever, but if that's not possible you can most likely do; b) Initiate a teamfight because the other team will often be either ignorant enough to fight you 4vs5 or they will simply not notice that they're only 4 people. Another thing about playing from behind (especially if your own lane isn't behind) is to just roam a lot and try to secure kills on the other lanes. 3) You can't do much about this except try to outplay your opponent or you can call for your jungle and hope he shows up. Also, this is probably not the case but the random aggression could also be their mid laner knowing that your jungle isn't close to mid and he sees an opportunity to harass you down. Also you can add me on LoL (IGN: EquilasH) if you want to ask me something more. You sir are my hero. I love all those people who, when behind, don't buy any wards because they need to get to their next item faster to catch up somehow. Best way to catch up is to ward the shit out of everything. Unfortunately most supports (especially here on TL it seems) seem to think that if their team falls behind then its up to them to carry so they go for deathcap or something. Supports should be the first one to sacrifice their normal build for the good of the team. | ||
Catch]22
Sweden2683 Posts
On August 25 2012 00:06 Simberto wrote: Actually, that was pretty much my experience with DOTA 2. I played about 10 games, none of which ended without at least one guy leaving the game at 5-10 minutes. So what you are saying is that when I get to ranked games, they will disappear? | ||
Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On August 25 2012 01:33 Catch]22 wrote: So what you are saying is that when I get to ranked games, they will disappear? HA. You're funny. | ||
Simberto
Germany11313 Posts
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
our lux mid gets smashed by ap leblanc. our bot panth builds warmogs after 2 dbs and loses lane by over 100 cd. our top lane loses bad too. at the end of the game, i have the highest CS and the most gold. i'm not really mad, we're friends just playing for fun anyway, but then on skype... "well i don't think jungle lulu really works." uh, yea, i don't think it's my fault... | ||
ninjakingcola
United States405 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11313 Posts
On August 25 2012 02:14 kainzero wrote: playing with friends, i pick jungle lulu. obviously it's not easy but whatever, we're just messing around and we got our first win of the day already. our lux mid gets smashed by ap leblanc. our bot panth builds warmogs after 2 dbs and loses lane by over 100 cd. our top lane loses bad too. at the end of the game, i have the highest CS and the most gold. i'm not really mad, we're friends just playing for fun anyway, but then on skype... "well i don't think jungle lulu really works." uh, yea, i don't think it's my fault... It could still very well be your fault. If, for example, the enemy jungler had a huge impact onto the game, and thus lead to those losing lanes, while you did not do anything except farm jungle all day long, then losing lanes can be your fault, too. | ||
Tatari
United States1179 Posts
On August 25 2012 02:29 ninjakingcola wrote: I honestly don't know how people can screw up playing Morgana, like really, W the minon wave, land the bindings, and R in teamfights, it's literally that easy and yet somehow every time I get a morg on my team she feeds the fuck out of mid. Tbh, I really dislike laning as Morgana. Her AA range is so short, she's easily susceptible to harass. | ||
Cheap0
United States540 Posts
On August 24 2012 19:31 EquilasH wrote: 1) It's a good thing that you're limiting yourself to just 2 roles. Imo the best way to learn the game and get to a higher Elo is to literally spam one champion every game. For example if you wanted to exclusively play Cassiopeia (this is a really good choice btw because she's strong but she's not played a lot), then you just say in champ select every game "I prefer mid - it's much better than my other roles". The most important thing is that in the first 100 games or so just pick that champion into EVERYTHING - it doesn't matter if your team says that you're against a hard counter or whatever. Then when you've learned everything there is to know about said champion you can start only picking it into favorable matchups or whatever. This may sound a bit like you only improve with one champion, but from my experience that's not the case at all and you'll see a huge general improvement just because you'll slow down learning about the specific champion and you can start putting your focus elsewhere. This is a really interesting thing to say, and I like it a lot. I'm still pretty newbish (not yet ranked), and I was trying to figure out how to really improve and get good at this game, and initially, I had planned on trying to apply this lesson, which is also good for improving at SCII, over to LoL. I eventually decided to branch out though, because I felt like my knowledge about the game was limited, particularly in how other roles played and felt, and I also didn't really learn what the other champions where and what they'd do, etc. There is an enormous burden of knowledge in being effective at LoL, even just having a cursory knowledge of all 103 champions. I'm still looking up info on LoL wiki on almost every loading screen. Now that I've overcome that barrier and gained a lot of general knowledge about all the different roles, champions, etc I think it might be better to do what you say and focus in on specific champions and playing them well. I've kind of been doing this with Nasus by playing him blind pick and experiencing the different matchups with him, even the ones where I just get demolished. Overall, I feel like I've learned a lot, both about Nasus and about the top lane in general, since learning Nasus has taught me to be patient and how to control the lane well (it's an essential skill for top lane, but especially for Nasus I think). | ||
kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On August 25 2012 02:41 Simberto wrote: It could still very well be your fault. If, for example, the enemy jungler had a huge impact onto the game, and thus lead to those losing lanes, while you did not do anything except farm jungle all day long, then losing lanes can be your fault, too. It could (and I have no problem with it being my fault, I tend to blame myself more than anything) but in this case it wasn't. In this case, everyone played poorly, me included. I don't mind everyone saying "We played terrible," I don't mind playing with friends that are terrible (I'm the only hardcore one) as long as we have fun. But instead of thinking, "I should've played lane better" it became "Jungle Lulu just doesn't work," which doesn't make sense when I played the best out of us 5. | ||
Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
At first I thought I was up against jax but then he ended up jungling. All game I just wanted riven to gank bot and leave me alone at top. I got teleport, I wasn't trying to run a kill lane. I was trying to get some mr to sustain nunu's harass and to push the lane so I could go back every few minutes to heal up. Also annoying was how Ezrael kept calling out leona and trying to get us to report her. Ez started intentional feeding. I only saw him feed once, but after the game he said he was trolling leona because leona trolled him in lane. :-/ She's your support. Your support gives up farm so you can have kills in this game. You don't talk bad about your support when your support is positive and helping in teamfights. Since I was up against nunu and nunu can't push for his life, I did manage to help a lot of teamfights by just teleporting everywhere. I feel like I did so much more than the nunu who had to stay top lane all game ![]() Could be worse, my jungle riven's past 4 games (all the ones tonight) have been losses. | ||
Simberto
Germany11313 Posts
On August 25 2012 15:02 obesechicken13 wrote: Also annoying was how Ezrael kept calling out leona and trying to get us to report her. Ez started intentional feeding. I only saw him feed once, but after the game he said he was trolling leona because leona trolled him in lane. :-/ She's your support. Your support gives up farm so you can have kills in this game. You don't talk bad about your support when your support is positive and helping in teamfights. This sounds awefully familiar. If you were not playing on US, i would be sure that i had played with the same guy. Playing AD carry, doing bad, than "my support trolls me, so i troll him", repeating that same absurd statement over and over whenever someone talked to him, and randomly starting to jungle as caitlyn on level 5. | ||
Gaslo
Finland951 Posts
a.Jungler b. himself? Blah. All in all it was just funny, especially when my whole team told him that it was all his fault, and he should just stfu. But yeah, getting blamed for him losing his lane at level 4, where the enemy has had zero jungle help is funny, super funny. edit: ill just edit this here, no need to QQ on every page. ![]() Game starts, i am anivia, i go to the middle of mid lane, and see them invading. I ping that brush, and tell our team that they are there. For some reason our bot + top dont want to come, so i think we will just give up on our blue buff, maybe go to theirs. But then this chat happens Me: they are in that brush, invading our blue Skarner: (pings the same spot) GO CHECK IT Me: mmmh, no... they are there as 5. Skarner: ITS YOUR JOB TO PROTECT THAT BUSH, GO THERE Me. like i said, they are there... dont go there... Skarner: Hmh... *goes to the brush, dies instantly* Skarner: Fuck you anivia, its your job to protect me Me: but i told you where they were?! why did you go there Skarner: ANIVIA NO PROTECT ME THATS WHY Yep, thats why. | ||
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