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dedede
Profile Joined March 2024
United States116 Posts
July 25 2025 14:23 GMT
#781
I wish they could just play the finals so that I can go to take a nap before 10AM
Terran
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
July 25 2025 14:23 GMT
#782
Solar vs Cure should be a good 3rd place match.

I don't like 3rd place matches in general, but there is a 20k dollar difference between 3rd and 4th so there are some stakes. Don't care much for the team championship, but those points should matter there as well.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Sameday
Profile Joined September 2024
9 Posts
July 25 2025 14:23 GMT
#783
You can tell the game is in a terrible state balance wise when there hasn't been a single quotable game the entire tournament. Apparently the most 'exciting' game of the tournament was Serral scouting Reynors big push across the map... and... wait for it... building a couple spine crawlers WHEW! QUOTABLE GAMES.

I miss the WOL and HOTS timelines when unique strategies were possible and you could do something unorthodox and still transition into mid game. Now if you make any mistake or deviate at all, opponent is maxed out at 7 minutes. It's a terrible state of the game.

The game is super dead on ladder, too. At 4k-6k I'm playing the same 5-10 people every day. And half of them hack. SC2 is dead. I never read replies.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45462 Posts
July 25 2025 14:24 GMT
#784
I don't see Classic beating Serral, unfortunately.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain886 Posts
July 25 2025 14:27 GMT
#785
BO9 with two of the greatest late-game players... long finals ahead of us?
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
July 25 2025 14:27 GMT
#786
On July 25 2025 23:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I don't see Classic beating Serral, unfortunately.

If it's not a 5-0 for Serral, Classic has already done exceedingly well.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3128 Posts
July 25 2025 14:30 GMT
#787
I think there's been a lot of stress and tension in the SC2 scene, caused 90% by the EWC and ESL situation I would say; the idea that we've reached some kind of balance or competitive nadir seems very silly to me. SC2 at the top level seems more competitive than it's been in years.

I'd be fine with minor tuning balance changes (of which many are possible!), but also we want to avoid another anti-Protoss backlash driven by Terran tears just because Protoss is doing well for the first time in five years.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26553 Posts
July 25 2025 14:31 GMT
#788
On July 25 2025 23:23 Sameday wrote:
You can tell the game is in a terrible state balance wise when there hasn't been a single quotable game the entire tournament. Apparently the most 'exciting' game of the tournament was Serral scouting Reynors big push across the map... and... wait for it... building a couple spine crawlers WHEW! QUOTABLE GAMES.

I miss the WOL and HOTS timelines when unique strategies were possible and you could do something unorthodox and still transition into mid game. Now if you make any mistake or deviate at all, opponent is maxed out at 7 minutes. It's a terrible state of the game.

The game is super dead on ladder, too. At 4k-6k I'm playing the same 5-10 people every day. And half of them hack. SC2 is dead. I never read replies.

What is the fucking point of being on a forum if you don’t read replies?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain886 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-25 14:32:55
July 25 2025 14:32 GMT
#789
On July 25 2025 23:30 Captain Peabody wrote:
I think there's been a lot of stress and tension in the SC2 scene, caused 90% by the EWC and ESL situation I would say; the idea that we've reached some kind of balance or competitive nadir seems very silly to me. SC2 at the top level seems more competitive than it's been in years.

I'd be fine with minor tuning balance changes (of which many are possible!), but also we want to avoid another anti-Protoss backlash driven by Terran tears just because Protoss is doing well for the first time in five years.

I agree, two Terrans out of four players in the RO4 should be enough.
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
Nasigil1
Profile Joined March 2024
114 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-25 14:35:04
July 25 2025 14:34 GMT
#790
On July 25 2025 22:58 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2025 22:48 Asha wrote:
On July 25 2025 22:41 Topin wrote:
was Cure vs Serral as brutal as the result tells?


In a way it was worse given Cure had multiple winning positions but just couldn't get over the line.

Yeah, probably more brutal than just being relentlessly stomped if you’re Cure. Cure had a realistic shot of winning some games, Serral went Serral mode and scraped back in.

He played well, he potentially rides some of those positions to a series win if he’s not playing Serral.


Sad thing is Serral didn't even played that well in the Cure series. He ran out of larva. He forgot creeps. He somehow got repeatedly denied expansions by simple two prong attacks.

Cure played rock solid Starcraft until 15mins, then he somehow just didn't know what to do anymore. Refused to build Ghosts. Refuse to went for kill when he had clear window of upper hand. Didn't even expand that well. Just sit on his ass not sure what to do and allowed even a sloppy Serral to crawl his way back in.
dedede
Profile Joined March 2024
United States116 Posts
July 25 2025 14:37 GMT
#791
Finals starts 3 hours later??
Terran
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
July 25 2025 14:38 GMT
#792
When the clear 2nd best player in the world is 6th on aligulac
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
SHODAN
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1153 Posts
July 25 2025 14:40 GMT
#793
On July 25 2025 23:37 dedede wrote:
Finals starts 3 hours later??


nah, the times on liquipedia are just placeholders. the finals will start soon after the 3rd place match is concluded
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1219 Posts
July 25 2025 14:43 GMT
#794
On July 25 2025 23:31 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2025 23:23 Sameday wrote:
You can tell the game is in a terrible state balance wise when there hasn't been a single quotable game the entire tournament. Apparently the most 'exciting' game of the tournament was Serral scouting Reynors big push across the map... and... wait for it... building a couple spine crawlers WHEW! QUOTABLE GAMES.

I miss the WOL and HOTS timelines when unique strategies were possible and you could do something unorthodox and still transition into mid game. Now if you make any mistake or deviate at all, opponent is maxed out at 7 minutes. It's a terrible state of the game.

The game is super dead on ladder, too. At 4k-6k I'm playing the same 5-10 people every day. And half of them hack. SC2 is dead. I never read replies.

What is the fucking point of being on a forum if you don’t read replies?


I think it's Alphastar AI - now also on the TL forums!
~~(,,ºº>
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3510 Posts
July 25 2025 14:43 GMT
#795
On July 25 2025 23:37 dedede wrote:
Finals starts 3 hours later??

3rd place match in ~15 mins
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1451 Posts
July 25 2025 14:46 GMT
#796
THE TRUE PRIZE IS THE DOGGOS WE PET ALONG THE WAY!
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Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1236 Posts
July 25 2025 14:47 GMT
#797
Solar and Cure are match closer skill-wise than they are in comparison to Serral and Classic, so this should be a well-fought 3rd place match.
Mutation complete.
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1219 Posts
July 25 2025 14:47 GMT
#798
So impressed by Classics execution, builds, defense and all round play this tournament. Couldn't be happier to see him make the finals for WC. Hope it won't be another stomp - either way, nothing to lose at this point.
~~(,,ºº>
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
July 25 2025 14:48 GMT
#799
Hopefully Cure wins so we can get a perfect Z/P/T split for 1st to 3rd.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
July 25 2025 14:48 GMT
#800
On July 25 2025 23:47 -KG- wrote:
So impressed by Classics execution, builds, defense and all round play this tournament. Couldn't be happier to see him make the finals for WC. Hope it won't be another stomp - either way, nothing to lose at this point.

He can still lose his strange Illuminati triangle that probably contains part of his soul to the hydraulic press.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
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