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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
June 05 2025 13:32 GMT
#21
On June 05 2025 22:31 MJG wrote:
Infestor/Brood Lord.

*internal screaming*

PvZ lategame still sucks to watch sadly :/
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26505 Posts
June 05 2025 13:36 GMT
#22
Showtime doing his usual of playing pretty well and looking good but not quite enough against a better player
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26505 Posts
June 05 2025 13:50 GMT
#23
Interesting little tidbit from Nitix that he played Toss in the qualifiers.

I wonder when the last time, if ever, it was that someone’s qualified for a pretty big tournament and played a different race in the main event
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
June 05 2025 14:06 GMT
#24
On June 05 2025 22:50 WombaT wrote:
Interesting little tidbit from Nitix that he played Toss in the qualifiers.

I wonder when the last time, if ever, it was that someone’s qualified for a pretty big tournament and played a different race in the main event

Maybe he felt comfortable enough with his toss but zerg ahs been his main race afaik.
Blitzball04
Profile Joined June 2024
191 Posts
June 05 2025 14:08 GMT
#25
On June 05 2025 22:36 WombaT wrote:
Showtime doing his usual of playing pretty well and looking good but not quite enough against a better player


That’s pretty much his career. He will give you a flash of brilliance here and there against top players or take a game or 2 off them

But he will never beat any top dogs in any tournaments
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1797 Posts
June 05 2025 14:21 GMT
#26
On June 05 2025 07:36 Waxangel wrote:
If all the results go chalk in the next round, then we could see all the EWC seed-hunters get a 'fair' start in Losers' Round 2.

Obv if anyone gets a winners' bracket upset that gives them a major adv

It's very cool that it worked out this way even though a dark horse run is always exciting. Splits the tournament cleanly into an upper bracket competing for the title and a lower bracket competing for the EWC spot
Rob-Zero
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany460 Posts
June 05 2025 18:06 GMT
#27
On June 05 2025 23:08 Blitzball04 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2025 22:36 WombaT wrote:
Showtime doing his usual of playing pretty well and looking good but not quite enough against a better player


That’s pretty much his career. He will give you a flash of brilliance here and there against top players or take a game or 2 off them

But he will never beat any top dogs in any tournaments


That is not quite right, he beat plenty of top dogs like Maru, Byun, Dark, Reynor etc etc in big tournaments, but most of the time he does so in the group stage (where he caused quite a lot of upsets over the years).
You are (mostly) right when it comes to the knockout bracket, though.

Still love watching and rooting for Showtime
Dark Age of Camelot - I miss you
onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria923 Posts
June 05 2025 19:41 GMT
#28
On June 05 2025 22:50 WombaT wrote:
Interesting little tidbit from Nitix that he played Toss in the qualifiers.

I wonder when the last time, if ever, it was that someone’s qualified for a pretty big tournament and played a different race in the main event


Had Maru played in this tournament it would have happened twice just for BGE 2025.

He qualified playing only Protoss. Would have definitely played Terran at the main event, but he pulled out.
Livin' this life like it was written.
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2256 Posts
June 05 2025 23:30 GMT
#29
Definitely a strange choice to have such few games per day of the event and to start so early. But great, entertaining games, a nice atmosphere, and the beautiful city make for a great viewing experience.
Cogito, ergo Toss
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26505 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-06 02:04:22
June 06 2025 01:35 GMT
#30
On June 06 2025 08:30 SharkStarcraft wrote:
Definitely a strange choice to have such few games per day of the event and to start so early. But great, entertaining games, a nice atmosphere, and the beautiful city make for a great viewing experience.

It might be as I’m on holiday and I can only devote so much time to StarCraft without my partner getting annoyed, so it does suit me!

I don’t mind the general cadence though so far anyway.

I’ve consistently felt other tournaments don’t do this very well since forever. Groups drag for like 2 days, then most of the playoff stuff is in one big day and the final few matches to follow. So in that sense I think this is better paced
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1450 Posts
June 06 2025 06:09 GMT
#31
So far, so predictable with this tournament.

Hopefully the series will be more closely contested from here on.
puking up frothing vitriolic sarcastic spittle
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3482 Posts
June 06 2025 07:55 GMT
#32
I would love to see Reynor win this tournament and booster his confidence for EWC, but the issue has been his sad record against Serral for the past 3 years, which reach Solar/Shin vs Maru level of "punching bag". I am not sure what the cause, but to go from 50/50 split into lopsided 1-10 record is just so weird to watch.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
June 06 2025 10:57 GMT
#33
On June 06 2025 16:55 tigera6 wrote:
I would love to see Reynor win this tournament and booster his confidence for EWC, but the issue has been his sad record against Serral for the past 3 years, which reach Solar/Shin vs Maru level of "punching bag". I am not sure what the cause, but to go from 50/50 split into lopsided 1-10 record is just so weird to watch.

I think rotti Said it best that reynor became more predictable vs serral instead of this guy who could Just Bring Out anything and in that kinda Games serral Just Beats him.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
June 06 2025 10:59 GMT
#34
Spirit with that real wtf do I even do face after that series lol
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3482 Posts
June 06 2025 11:04 GMT
#35
Current TvP is similar to TvZ in the sense that, if you cant deal major damage, and just sit back, the Protoss economy will just overtake eventually.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
June 06 2025 11:10 GMT
#36
On June 06 2025 20:04 tigera6 wrote:
Current TvP is similar to TvZ in the sense that, if you cant deal major damage, and just sit back, the Protoss economy will just overtake eventually.

I mean thats kinda the dynamics in the matchup, If you are passive in you strong Phase and let the protoss Take His 4th and 5th more or less for free then you get outscaled.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3482 Posts
June 06 2025 11:42 GMT
#37
On June 06 2025 20:10 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2025 20:04 tigera6 wrote:
Current TvP is similar to TvZ in the sense that, if you cant deal major damage, and just sit back, the Protoss economy will just overtake eventually.

I mean thats kinda the dynamics in the matchup, If you are passive in you strong Phase and let the protoss Take His 4th and 5th more or less for free then you get outscaled.

Yeah, but I dont think it was this sharp of a difference. Previously I feel like Terran can take a 4th and defend well, now 4th base for Terran seems like a very bad move if they play defensive.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
June 06 2025 11:44 GMT
#38
On June 06 2025 20:42 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2025 20:10 darklycid wrote:
On June 06 2025 20:04 tigera6 wrote:
Current TvP is similar to TvZ in the sense that, if you cant deal major damage, and just sit back, the Protoss economy will just overtake eventually.

I mean thats kinda the dynamics in the matchup, If you are passive in you strong Phase and let the protoss Take His 4th and 5th more or less for free then you get outscaled.

Yeah, but I dont think it was this sharp of a difference. Previously I feel like Terran can take a 4th and defend well, now 4th base for Terran seems like a very bad move if they play defensive.

Maybe or they Just need to find a way to make it Work, Spirit also Played hyper Defensive vs No Aggression.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3482 Posts
June 06 2025 11:55 GMT
#39
On June 06 2025 20:44 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2025 20:42 tigera6 wrote:
On June 06 2025 20:10 darklycid wrote:
On June 06 2025 20:04 tigera6 wrote:
Current TvP is similar to TvZ in the sense that, if you cant deal major damage, and just sit back, the Protoss economy will just overtake eventually.

I mean thats kinda the dynamics in the matchup, If you are passive in you strong Phase and let the protoss Take His 4th and 5th more or less for free then you get outscaled.

Yeah, but I dont think it was this sharp of a difference. Previously I feel like Terran can take a 4th and defend well, now 4th base for Terran seems like a very bad move if they play defensive.

Maybe or they Just need to find a way to make it Work, Spirit also Played hyper Defensive vs No Aggression.

They would rather pull the boys at the moment.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7139 Posts
June 06 2025 11:58 GMT
#40
Showtime vs Ryung and probably Skillous / Harambo competing for the EWC spot is a bigger Storyline than WHO actually wins
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
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