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Pandemona *
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Charlie Sheens House51458 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-15 09:43:13
May 15 2025 09:42 GMT
#1

GSL Code S


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(Wiki)Global StarCraft II League/2025/Season 1

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uk SOOP

Format

  • Group Stage 1:
  • Dual Tournament Format.
  • All matches are Bo3.
  • Top 2 players of each group advance to the Group Stage 2.

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Group B


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(P)Classic vs (Z)Reynor

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(T)GuMiho vs (T)Maru

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Pandemona *
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Charlie Sheens House51458 Posts
May 15 2025 09:43 GMT
#2
Sorry, delayed!

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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17623 Posts
May 15 2025 10:10 GMT
#3
that's more like it, Classic
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17623 Posts
May 15 2025 10:17 GMT
#4
idk about this glaives rush... I would've told him to just keep going lategame airtoss lol
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17623 Posts
May 15 2025 10:27 GMT
#5
hell yea Classic!
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17623 Posts
May 15 2025 10:36 GMT
#6
WHAT
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17623 Posts
May 15 2025 10:42 GMT
#7
so now the question is, will Maru play Terran at all today or just Protoss? will he play any TvT?

did Gumiho know in advance?
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17623 Posts
May 15 2025 10:45 GMT
#8
this wasn't a great game by Maru, is his TvT actually worse than this?
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3223 Posts
May 15 2025 10:50 GMT
#9
Does Maru want to lose and try to eliminate Reynor himself?
bela.mervado
Profile Joined December 2008
Hungary376 Posts
May 15 2025 11:07 GMT
#10
would be fun to have a Reynor vs Maru PvP
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom852 Posts
May 15 2025 11:41 GMT
#11
Classic absolutely smashing it. What a boss.
"I don't like Starcraft 2. I play because it's something I'm good at, it's something I've been involved in for a lot of time, and I like the competition. But I think the game is shit. I don't love it at all." - IdrA
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17623 Posts
May 15 2025 12:11 GMT
#12
getting those 2 marines behind the wall at the beginning of the game saved Maru's ass lol
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17623 Posts
May 15 2025 12:15 GMT
#13
Maru plz
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3223 Posts
May 15 2025 12:18 GMT
#14
Maru greedy ass build got exposed just like that, also he should have defended the main instead of the natural.
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1101 Posts
May 15 2025 12:55 GMT
#15
This group is playing out wilder than expected.
Mutation complete.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17623 Posts
May 15 2025 12:57 GMT
#16
fuck yea, Gumigod!
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Ciaus237
Profile Joined July 2015
South Africa268 Posts
May 15 2025 12:58 GMT
#17
Watching SC2 as a Zergie in this game state is depressing.
The time that we kill keeps us alive
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1101 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-15 13:09:30
May 15 2025 13:03 GMT
#18
On May 15 2025 21:58 Ciaus237 wrote:
Watching SC2 as a Zergie in this game state is depressing.

Yeah. No zerg in the RO4 is sad. Still some entertaining developments in today's group. At least Classic advanced rather than both terrans going through.
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Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7968 Posts
May 15 2025 13:08 GMT
#19
Zerg truely is the least fun it has ever been, no wonder barely anyone is still playing
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3378 Posts
May 15 2025 13:34 GMT
#20
yea z matchups arent too much fun to watch either currently outside some cases, like i enjoy some of the pvzs before mass lurker and tempest hit the field (it just aint no fun when one side just more or less wins the lategame).
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33222 Posts
May 15 2025 13:35 GMT
#21
Gumiho is 2 for 2 in driving top Terrans insane by just existing. The REAL GOAT, in my opinion.
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MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom852 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-15 13:58:25
May 15 2025 13:56 GMT
#22
On May 15 2025 21:58 Ciaus237 wrote:
Watching SC2 as a Zergie in this game state is depressing.

Zerg has been unfun to play against since LotV came out so...



I thought Maru's raw talent would carry him through, but it's clear that both injuries (which I guess were bad enough to keep him out of military service?) and a seeming lack of motivation (given the previously presumed death of GSL?) have caught up with him. It is what it is.
"I don't like Starcraft 2. I play because it's something I'm good at, it's something I've been involved in for a lot of time, and I like the competition. But I think the game is shit. I don't love it at all." - IdrA
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2705 Posts
May 15 2025 14:00 GMT
#23
Four players who all have exactly one Code S championship under their belt fighting for their second.
very illegal and very uncool
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1472 Posts
May 15 2025 14:01 GMT
#24
Wow, what a result. I don't think Reynor is in bad condition either. So many players competitive at a super high level makes me more excited for EWC.
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Ciaus237
Profile Joined July 2015
South Africa268 Posts
23 hours ago
#25
On May 15 2025 22:08 Tsubbi wrote:
Zerg truely is the least fun it has ever been, no wonder barely anyone is still playing


It is indeed.
It's also quite weak in ZvP - which is a problem given that below the top 15 or so players is just a sea of Protoss.
The time that we kill keeps us alive
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3378 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-15 15:42:22
22 hours ago
#26
On May 15 2025 23:33 Ciaus237 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2025 22:08 Tsubbi wrote:
Zerg truely is the least fun it has ever been, no wonder barely anyone is still playing


It is indeed.
It's also quite weak in ZvP - which is a problem given that below the top 15 or so players is just a sea of Protoss.

I dont think zerg is particulary weak in zvp right Now, recent results have been okay (even this gsl its more the zvt that zergs got eliminated by).
But the way zergs need to approach zvp right Now is Just the Reverse of how protoss Had to do it when they were complaining (win in midgame/early endgame or die trying). Cant say there isn't some satisfaction seeing zergs complain about that when they were telling us the mu was fine the whole Time but there def needs to be Something done about it.

Edit: toss def favored in pvz rn but Not as much as your comment might suggest imo.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15882 Posts
22 hours ago
#27
On May 15 2025 22:08 Tsubbi wrote:
Zerg truely is the least fun it has ever been, no wonder barely anyone is still playing

You must not remember late HotS where you either had to face Mass Raven turtle (after SHs got removed) or got to watch Stalkers kill your units for free with 10 Sentrys permacasting unbreakable forcefields
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24430 Posts
13 hours ago
#28
On May 16 2025 00:41 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2025 23:33 Ciaus237 wrote:
On May 15 2025 22:08 Tsubbi wrote:
Zerg truely is the least fun it has ever been, no wonder barely anyone is still playing


It is indeed.
It's also quite weak in ZvP - which is a problem given that below the top 15 or so players is just a sea of Protoss.

I dont think zerg is particulary weak in zvp right Now, recent results have been okay (even this gsl its more the zvt that zergs got eliminated by).
But the way zergs need to approach zvp right Now is Just the Reverse of how protoss Had to do it when they were complaining (win in midgame/early endgame or die trying). Cant say there isn't some satisfaction seeing zergs complain about that when they were telling us the mu was fine the whole Time but there def needs to be Something done about it.

Edit: toss def favored in pvz rn but Not as much as your comment might suggest imo.

Yeah I think really what Zergs lack are consistently viable kill options in the early and midgame.

If it goes late, and the Zerg is in good shape, it’s very playable. But it feels that’s kinda their main win condition. Don’t take damage, make good reads and you might win late. There aren’t too many scary all-ins going these days that might keep a Toss honest

We’ve had shitty periods for PvZ/ZvP balance in the past, I may have my biases there, but nonetheless I really do think ZvP is quite rough at the top end these days.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15882 Posts
12 hours ago
#29
On May 16 2025 09:52 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2025 00:41 darklycid wrote:
On May 15 2025 23:33 Ciaus237 wrote:
On May 15 2025 22:08 Tsubbi wrote:
Zerg truely is the least fun it has ever been, no wonder barely anyone is still playing


It is indeed.
It's also quite weak in ZvP - which is a problem given that below the top 15 or so players is just a sea of Protoss.

I dont think zerg is particulary weak in zvp right Now, recent results have been okay (even this gsl its more the zvt that zergs got eliminated by).
But the way zergs need to approach zvp right Now is Just the Reverse of how protoss Had to do it when they were complaining (win in midgame/early endgame or die trying). Cant say there isn't some satisfaction seeing zergs complain about that when they were telling us the mu was fine the whole Time but there def needs to be Something done about it.

Edit: toss def favored in pvz rn but Not as much as your comment might suggest imo.

Yeah I think really what Zergs lack are consistently viable kill options in the early and midgame.

If it goes late, and the Zerg is in good shape, it’s very playable. But it feels that’s kinda their main win condition. Don’t take damage, make good reads and you might win late. There aren’t too many scary all-ins going these days that might keep a Toss honest

We’ve had shitty periods for PvZ/ZvP balance in the past, I may have my biases there, but nonetheless I really do think ZvP is quite rough at the top end these days.

Not sure I agree, players like Shin or Dark played exclusively mid game allins vs Toss, and their winrates weren't too bad.

Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
twndomn
Profile Joined September 2010
400 Posts
7 hours ago
#30
Jesus, Maru is just screwing around, he got tired of winning. Gumi looks very handsome today, that was glorious.
"If MC wins this, his name would not be SK MC, it would be ST MC, ST for Saint, performing miracles." - Artosis.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3378 Posts
4 hours ago
#31
On May 16 2025 11:12 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2025 09:52 WombaT wrote:
On May 16 2025 00:41 darklycid wrote:
On May 15 2025 23:33 Ciaus237 wrote:
On May 15 2025 22:08 Tsubbi wrote:
Zerg truely is the least fun it has ever been, no wonder barely anyone is still playing


It is indeed.
It's also quite weak in ZvP - which is a problem given that below the top 15 or so players is just a sea of Protoss.

I dont think zerg is particulary weak in zvp right Now, recent results have been okay (even this gsl its more the zvt that zergs got eliminated by).
But the way zergs need to approach zvp right Now is Just the Reverse of how protoss Had to do it when they were complaining (win in midgame/early endgame or die trying). Cant say there isn't some satisfaction seeing zergs complain about that when they were telling us the mu was fine the whole Time but there def needs to be Something done about it.

Edit: toss def favored in pvz rn but Not as much as your comment might suggest imo.

Yeah I think really what Zergs lack are consistently viable kill options in the early and midgame.

If it goes late, and the Zerg is in good shape, it’s very playable. But it feels that’s kinda their main win condition. Don’t take damage, make good reads and you might win late. There aren’t too many scary all-ins going these days that might keep a Toss honest

We’ve had shitty periods for PvZ/ZvP balance in the past, I may have my biases there, but nonetheless I really do think ZvP is quite rough at the top end these days.

Not sure I agree, players like Shin or Dark played exclusively mid game allins vs Toss, and their winrates weren't too bad.


Yes i'd argue its more the other way around, there are good midgame Timings (that are more or less balanced) but No way to get to the later Game without doing those and pray for damage. Even If you dont Take much damage and both Sides Just do normal Trading usually the toss is ahead with tempest etc.

On the other Hand non skytoss comps Just dont See Land vs criritcal lurker masses i feel. Ideally i'd Like to See skytoss nerfed and some Changes for ground toss to stand Up better vs mass lurker armies.
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