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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 11 2024 14:45 GMT
#1161
On February 11 2024 23:41 Mizenhauer wrote:
I can only imagine what a Maru vs Serral final would do to the second half of the GOAT articles.

Would be more fun if Dark ends up winning and doesn't make the top 10
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 11 2024 14:46 GMT
#1162
On February 11 2024 23:44 HeroSandro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 23:42 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 11 2024 23:41 HeroSandro wrote:
Maru walkednto Byuns third and Byun just did not see it. A bit aticlimatic 😅


What was he going to do to stop him? Byun had about half the army supply that Maru did at that point.

It was 67-45. Maybe he could have tried to defend his third?

ByuN had 20 supply in drops, and like 10 tied up in production. He had no units at home and even if he did, Maru's army was bigger
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3446 Posts
February 11 2024 14:47 GMT
#1163
On February 11 2024 23:44 youaremysin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 23:41 Mizenhauer wrote:
I can only imagine what a Maru vs Serral final would do to the second half of the GOAT articles.

with what they showed today there's no way Maru takes more than one map. He looked really sloppy defending these drop

Thats TvT for you, both side sends army/drop away and miss each other, then see who does more damage. There is no "good" way to defend against those drops unless you turtling at home.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-11 14:53:44
February 11 2024 14:48 GMT
#1164
This is Maru's 5th Ro4 in 7 years at Katowice, he missed the Ro4 in 2022 after losing to Serral in the Ro8.

Made even more impressive considering that except for last year, which was a TvT final, 6/7 of those Katowice finals all ended up as either ZvP or ZvZ finals.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-11 14:51:59
February 11 2024 14:51 GMT
#1165
On February 11 2024 23:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
This is Maru's 6th Ro4 in 7 years at Katowice, he only missed the Ro4 in 2022 after losing to Serral in the Ro8.

Made even more impressive considering that except for last year, which was a TvT final, 6/7 of those Katowice finals all ended up as either ZvP or ZvZ finals.

It's his 5th ro4 at Katowice, he didn't make it in 2019. Still super impressive. I'll say it again but he's the most consistent player in world championship events
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-11 14:54:26
February 11 2024 14:53 GMT
#1166
On February 11 2024 23:51 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 23:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
This is Maru's 6th Ro4 in 7 years at Katowice, he only missed the Ro4 in 2022 after losing to Serral in the Ro8.

Made even more impressive considering that except for last year, which was a TvT final, 6/7 of those Katowice finals all ended up as either ZvP or ZvZ finals.

It's his 5th ro4 at Katowice, he didn't make it in 2019. Still super impressive. I'll say it again but he's the most consistent player in world championship events


Oh you're right somehow I skipped over that one when I was looking back at the previous runs. so he's 5/7 then.

EDIT: But also, that's 2019 so that shouldn't count. 2019 as a year shouldn't count.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
February 11 2024 14:53 GMT
#1167
On February 11 2024 23:51 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 23:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
This is Maru's 6th Ro4 in 7 years at Katowice, he only missed the Ro4 in 2022 after losing to Serral in the Ro8.

Made even more impressive considering that except for last year, which was a TvT final, 6/7 of those Katowice finals all ended up as either ZvP or ZvZ finals.

It's his 5th ro4 at Katowice, he didn't make it in 2019. Still super impressive. I'll say it again but he's the most consistent player in world championship events


Is he ? Until this year's bombing, one could've argued Reynor with his 4 finals and 2 won (out of the Blizzcon/Katowice switch) was up there.
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3446 Posts
February 11 2024 14:54 GMT
#1168
On February 11 2024 23:51 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 23:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
This is Maru's 6th Ro4 in 7 years at Katowice, he only missed the Ro4 in 2022 after losing to Serral in the Ro8.

Made even more impressive considering that except for last year, which was a TvT final, 6/7 of those Katowice finals all ended up as either ZvP or ZvZ finals.

It's his 5th ro4 at Katowice, he didn't make it in 2019. Still super impressive. I'll say it again but he's the most consistent player in world championship events

Most consistent in IEM/WESG but his Blizzcon record has been sub-par at best. And he blew a couple of important 2-0 lead that I was literally scared when Byun even the score.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
February 11 2024 14:54 GMT
#1169
On February 11 2024 23:53 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 23:51 Fango wrote:
On February 11 2024 23:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
This is Maru's 6th Ro4 in 7 years at Katowice, he only missed the Ro4 in 2022 after losing to Serral in the Ro8.

Made even more impressive considering that except for last year, which was a TvT final, 6/7 of those Katowice finals all ended up as either ZvP or ZvZ finals.

It's his 5th ro4 at Katowice, he didn't make it in 2019. Still super impressive. I'll say it again but he's the most consistent player in world championship events


Is he ? Until this year's bombing, one could've argued Reynor with his 4 finals and 2 won (out of the Blizzcon/Katowice switch) was up there.

Reynor only won once
WriterMaru
youaremysin
Profile Joined August 2015
119 Posts
February 11 2024 14:55 GMT
#1170
On February 11 2024 23:47 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 23:44 youaremysin wrote:
On February 11 2024 23:41 Mizenhauer wrote:
I can only imagine what a Maru vs Serral final would do to the second half of the GOAT articles.

with what they showed today there's no way Maru takes more than one map. He looked really sloppy defending these drop

Thats TvT for you, both side sends army/drop away and miss each other, then see who does more damage. There is no "good" way to defend against those drops unless you turtling at home.

Byun didn't have trouble to move his scv out of raven turrets. Maru kept losing 4 or 5 each round.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
February 11 2024 14:55 GMT
#1171
On February 11 2024 23:53 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 23:51 Fango wrote:
On February 11 2024 23:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
This is Maru's 6th Ro4 in 7 years at Katowice, he only missed the Ro4 in 2022 after losing to Serral in the Ro8.

Made even more impressive considering that except for last year, which was a TvT final, 6/7 of those Katowice finals all ended up as either ZvP or ZvZ finals.

It's his 5th ro4 at Katowice, he didn't make it in 2019. Still super impressive. I'll say it again but he's the most consistent player in world championship events


Is he ? Until this year's bombing, one could've argued Reynor with his 4 finals and 2 won (out of the Blizzcon/Katowice switch) was up there.


Reynor has also been remarkably consistent until this year. Makes his performance at this tournament all the more surprising.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3446 Posts
February 11 2024 14:56 GMT
#1172
On February 11 2024 23:54 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 23:53 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
On February 11 2024 23:51 Fango wrote:
On February 11 2024 23:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
This is Maru's 6th Ro4 in 7 years at Katowice, he only missed the Ro4 in 2022 after losing to Serral in the Ro8.

Made even more impressive considering that except for last year, which was a TvT final, 6/7 of those Katowice finals all ended up as either ZvP or ZvZ finals.

It's his 5th ro4 at Katowice, he didn't make it in 2019. Still super impressive. I'll say it again but he's the most consistent player in world championship events


Is he ? Until this year's bombing, one could've argued Reynor with his 4 finals and 2 won (out of the Blizzcon/Katowice switch) was up there.

Reynor only won once

He probably meant Gamers8 as a WC-tier event as well. But it sucks for Reynor that the year he won IEM, they cut the prizepool by 50% because it was online.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 11 2024 14:56 GMT
#1173
On February 11 2024 23:53 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 23:51 Fango wrote:
On February 11 2024 23:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
This is Maru's 6th Ro4 in 7 years at Katowice, he only missed the Ro4 in 2022 after losing to Serral in the Ro8.

Made even more impressive considering that except for last year, which was a TvT final, 6/7 of those Katowice finals all ended up as either ZvP or ZvZ finals.

It's his 5th ro4 at Katowice, he didn't make it in 2019. Still super impressive. I'll say it again but he's the most consistent player in world championship events


Is he ? Until this year's bombing, one could've argued Reynor with his 4 finals and 2 won (out of the Blizzcon/Katowice switch) was up there.

If Gamers8 counts then WeSG does as well. Maru made top 3 in WeSG all 3 years, and he's made ro4 at blizzcon.

That's 9 ro4+ in World championships, to Reynor's 4.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
February 11 2024 14:57 GMT
#1174
On February 11 2024 23:56 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 23:54 Poopi wrote:
On February 11 2024 23:53 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
On February 11 2024 23:51 Fango wrote:
On February 11 2024 23:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
This is Maru's 6th Ro4 in 7 years at Katowice, he only missed the Ro4 in 2022 after losing to Serral in the Ro8.

Made even more impressive considering that except for last year, which was a TvT final, 6/7 of those Katowice finals all ended up as either ZvP or ZvZ finals.

It's his 5th ro4 at Katowice, he didn't make it in 2019. Still super impressive. I'll say it again but he's the most consistent player in world championship events


Is he ? Until this year's bombing, one could've argued Reynor with his 4 finals and 2 won (out of the Blizzcon/Katowice switch) was up there.

Reynor only won once

He probably meant Gamers8 as a WC-tier event as well. But it sucks for Reynor that the year he won IEM, they cut the prizepool by 50% because it was online.

Gamers8 had ping, if that’s WC tier then WESG is
WriterMaru
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3446 Posts
February 11 2024 15:00 GMT
#1175
On February 11 2024 23:57 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 23:56 tigera6 wrote:
On February 11 2024 23:54 Poopi wrote:
On February 11 2024 23:53 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
On February 11 2024 23:51 Fango wrote:
On February 11 2024 23:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
This is Maru's 6th Ro4 in 7 years at Katowice, he only missed the Ro4 in 2022 after losing to Serral in the Ro8.

Made even more impressive considering that except for last year, which was a TvT final, 6/7 of those Katowice finals all ended up as either ZvP or ZvZ finals.

It's his 5th ro4 at Katowice, he didn't make it in 2019. Still super impressive. I'll say it again but he's the most consistent player in world championship events


Is he ? Until this year's bombing, one could've argued Reynor with his 4 finals and 2 won (out of the Blizzcon/Katowice switch) was up there.

Reynor only won once

He probably meant Gamers8 as a WC-tier event as well. But it sucks for Reynor that the year he won IEM, they cut the prizepool by 50% because it was online.

Gamers8 had ping, if that’s WC tier then WESG is

Yeah, I consider all the mega-prize events are WC-tier.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 11 2024 15:01 GMT
#1176
HM-Cure are tied 3-3 all time, surprisingly even
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
February 11 2024 15:02 GMT
#1177
On February 11 2024 23:56 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 23:53 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
On February 11 2024 23:51 Fango wrote:
On February 11 2024 23:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
This is Maru's 6th Ro4 in 7 years at Katowice, he only missed the Ro4 in 2022 after losing to Serral in the Ro8.

Made even more impressive considering that except for last year, which was a TvT final, 6/7 of those Katowice finals all ended up as either ZvP or ZvZ finals.

It's his 5th ro4 at Katowice, he didn't make it in 2019. Still super impressive. I'll say it again but he's the most consistent player in world championship events


Is he ? Until this year's bombing, one could've argued Reynor with his 4 finals and 2 won (out of the Blizzcon/Katowice switch) was up there.

If Gamers8 counts then WeSG does as well. Maru made top 3 in WeSG all 3 years, and he's made ro4 at blizzcon.

That's 9 ro4+ in World championships, to Reynor's 4.


Yeah, but Reynor won Kato, Maru hasn't just yet. He has a bimodal tendency to either straight up win or clown out, whereas Maru is necessarily more consistent overall out of just being the better player. Just wanted to point out these things really depend on the k you pick for top-k, i.e. k=4.
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
Nasigil
Profile Joined July 2023
137 Posts
February 11 2024 15:05 GMT
#1178
Yeah this is gonna be a Serral vs Maru finals on biggest stage we have been waiting for for 6 years, I can feel it.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10099 Posts
February 11 2024 15:05 GMT
#1179
heromarine looks really confident, lets see!
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17723 Posts
February 11 2024 15:05 GMT
#1180
Oh boy, get ready to hear "Big Gabe" 100x lol
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