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[Page 23] Balance whining will be aggressively moderated

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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
February 11 2023 11:46 GMT
#41
On February 11 2023 20:45 Sent. wrote:
Haha how did Neeb 2:0 Dark


The games were..... not good.

Dark just didn't look interested.
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GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
712 Posts
February 11 2023 11:46 GMT
#42
On February 11 2023 20:29 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2023 20:28 Die4Ever wrote:
On February 11 2023 20:27 Charoisaur wrote:
Neeb is the first player to take a series from one of the top 4 Zergs at a world championship since 2021

I assume you meant non-zerg player, but is this actually true?

yeah edited it


aren't you just saying "it didn't happen in 2022, and it took till day 3 of group stage in 2023"?
in which case i don't think its that special, really. like yeah, '22 was odd, but that's about it
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-11 11:50:06
February 11 2023 11:47 GMT
#43
On February 11 2023 20:27 Charoisaur wrote:
Neeb is the first non-Zerg player to take a series from one of the top 4 Zergs at a world championship since 2021

I certainly remember Zerg civil war in 2022, but didn't know it extended into group stages. Yeah, IEM 2022 was more lopsided than Zergcon 2019.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-11 11:50:53
February 11 2023 11:49 GMT
#44
On February 11 2023 20:38 Schelim wrote:
Group C is so tight, Special could advance in first place or be eliminated depending on how it turns out. Kinda crazy.


I think Special is safe, at worst he's gonna be 2-3 and the two 2-2 player are playing against each others.
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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3517 Posts
February 11 2023 11:50 GMT
#45
On February 11 2023 20:49 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2023 20:38 Schelim wrote:
Group C is so tight, Special could advance in first place or be eliminated depending on how it turns out. Kinda crazy.


I think Special is safe, at worst he's gonna be 3-2 and the two 2-2 player are playing against each others.

He can still Go Out on mapscore i think.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4958 Posts
February 11 2023 11:51 GMT
#46
Im just rooting for Creator to advance at this point
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BelethielQT
Profile Joined August 2022
90 Posts
February 11 2023 11:51 GMT
#47
On February 11 2023 20:50 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2023 20:49 Nakajin wrote:
On February 11 2023 20:38 Schelim wrote:
Group C is so tight, Special could advance in first place or be eliminated depending on how it turns out. Kinda crazy.


I think Special is safe, at worst he's gonna be 3-2 and the two 2-2 player are playing against each others.

He can still Go Out on mapscore i think.



even for hero is a chance to go out
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 11 2023 11:52 GMT
#48
In which situation would Creator not advance? Even if he loses 0-2, he would be 3-2 overall with +2 map score, which is better than Spirit could go with 3-2 overall and +1, right?
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4958 Posts
February 11 2023 11:54 GMT
#49
On February 11 2023 20:52 opterown wrote:
In which situation would Creator not advance? Even if he loses 0-2, he would be 3-2 overall with +2 map score, which is better than Spirit could go with 3-2 overall and +1, right?



Yes, you are right, he is secure I think
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3517 Posts
February 11 2023 11:54 GMT
#50
Yea creator should be Safe i think.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-11 11:55:58
February 11 2023 11:54 GMT
#51
Yea I'm pretty sure Group B is as straight up as it looks.

Gumiho vs Spirit is a battle for third place. Creator vs Reynor is a battle for 1st place. Showtime vs Astrea is a battle for last place.

I suppose if Gumiho wins and Creator loses he pops up to second place. So there's that too, but if Creator wins he'll move into first place instead.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 11 2023 11:55 GMT
#52
On February 11 2023 20:51 BelethielQT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2023 20:50 darklycid wrote:
On February 11 2023 20:49 Nakajin wrote:
On February 11 2023 20:38 Schelim wrote:
Group C is so tight, Special could advance in first place or be eliminated depending on how it turns out. Kinda crazy.


I think Special is safe, at worst he's gonna be 3-2 and the two 2-2 player are playing against each others.

He can still Go Out on mapscore i think.



even for hero is a chance to go out


Am I crazy? Neither the loser of Solar/Serral or DRG and Elazer can get to three win, so they can't kick herO and Special out. Did I miss somethig?
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
February 11 2023 11:56 GMT
#53
On February 11 2023 20:55 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2023 20:51 BelethielQT wrote:
On February 11 2023 20:50 darklycid wrote:
On February 11 2023 20:49 Nakajin wrote:
On February 11 2023 20:38 Schelim wrote:
Group C is so tight, Special could advance in first place or be eliminated depending on how it turns out. Kinda crazy.


I think Special is safe, at worst he's gonna be 3-2 and the two 2-2 player are playing against each others.

He can still Go Out on mapscore i think.



even for hero is a chance to go out


Am I crazy? Neither the loser of Solar/Serral or DRG and Elazer can get to three win, so they can't kick herO and Special out. Did I miss somethig?


herO is safe yea. He can't fall to 4th.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33508 Posts
February 11 2023 11:57 GMT
#54
Great to have all four groups end at once so we can be 4x more confused than typical IEM Katowice
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
February 11 2023 11:57 GMT
#55
If Solar win 2-0, Serral win 2-1 and Special lose 2-0 to herO, what will decide the outcome of Group C?
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
February 11 2023 11:57 GMT
#56
On February 11 2023 20:46 GoloSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2023 20:29 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 11 2023 20:28 Die4Ever wrote:
On February 11 2023 20:27 Charoisaur wrote:
Neeb is the first player to take a series from one of the top 4 Zergs at a world championship since 2021

I assume you meant non-zerg player, but is this actually true?

yeah edited it


aren't you just saying "it didn't happen in 2022, and it took till day 3 of group stage in 2023"?
in which case i don't think its that special, really. like yeah, '22 was odd, but that's about it

Yeah this tournament wasn't this special thus far however I think it's still remarkable that this series ended.
And saying '22 was odd is a bit of an understatement, it's kinda insane that no Protoss or Terran could take a single series of them the entire tournament
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4958 Posts
February 11 2023 11:58 GMT
#57
if herO loses 0-2 and Solar win 2-0 I tihnk herO will be out
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
February 11 2023 11:59 GMT
#58
On February 11 2023 20:57 swarminfestor wrote:
If Solar win 2-0, Serral win 2-1 and Special lose 2-0 to herO, what will decide the outcome of Group C?


I think, Special would be knocked out. That would give Solar and Serral each 7 map wins and Special only 6.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
February 11 2023 11:59 GMT
#59
On February 11 2023 20:56 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2023 20:55 Nakajin wrote:
On February 11 2023 20:51 BelethielQT wrote:
On February 11 2023 20:50 darklycid wrote:
On February 11 2023 20:49 Nakajin wrote:
On February 11 2023 20:38 Schelim wrote:
Group C is so tight, Special could advance in first place or be eliminated depending on how it turns out. Kinda crazy.


I think Special is safe, at worst he's gonna be 3-2 and the two 2-2 player are playing against each others.

He can still Go Out on mapscore i think.



even for hero is a chance to go out


Am I crazy? Neither the loser of Solar/Serral or DRG and Elazer can get to three win, so they can't kick herO and Special out. Did I miss somethig?


herO is safe yea. He can't fall to 4th.

Pretty sure if Serral, Solar and Special all win 2-0 herO is out
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18173 Posts
February 11 2023 11:59 GMT
#60
On February 11 2023 20:56 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2023 20:55 Nakajin wrote:
On February 11 2023 20:51 BelethielQT wrote:
On February 11 2023 20:50 darklycid wrote:
On February 11 2023 20:49 Nakajin wrote:
On February 11 2023 20:38 Schelim wrote:
Group C is so tight, Special could advance in first place or be eliminated depending on how it turns out. Kinda crazy.


I think Special is safe, at worst he's gonna be 3-2 and the two 2-2 player are playing against each others.

He can still Go Out on mapscore i think.



even for hero is a chance to go out


Am I crazy? Neither the loser of Solar/Serral or DRG and Elazer can get to three win, so they can't kick herO and Special out. Did I miss somethig?


herO is safe yea. He can't fall to 4th.

Yes he can. If Serral and Solar both win 2-0 and herO loses 2-0 he is out on mapscore. He needs to win 1 map to secure his spot.
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