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[IEM] Katowice 2023 - RO24 Group Stage - Day 2 - Page 11

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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18035 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 16:49:19
February 10 2023 16:48 GMT
#201
Well, Clem no longer has it all under his own control. If Oliveira beats Ragnarok, I don't think Clem has any way to advance. Both Oliveira and Ragnarok's map score is too good.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 16:49:32
February 10 2023 16:49 GMT
#202
Clem might make it through just because Cure is already eliminated so might not play his best. TIME has a tough match up too against Ragnarok who is fighting for 1st place in the group.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
tlnetuser108
Profile Joined October 2022
83 Posts
February 10 2023 16:52 GMT
#203
How Clem can beat Serral but lose to Dark is beyond me. We know Serral is better than Dark
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3408 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 16:55:39
February 10 2023 16:54 GMT
#204
On February 11 2023 01:52 tlnetuser108 wrote:
How Clem can beat Serral but lose to Dark is beyond me. We know Serral is better than Dark

We dont know that, lol.
Edit: And Serral has been crushing Clem in some game lately, part of Clem style has been "figured out"
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18035 Posts
February 10 2023 16:55 GMT
#205
On February 11 2023 01:52 tlnetuser108 wrote:
How Clem can beat Serral but lose to Dark is beyond me. We know Serral is better than Dark

Who knows that?
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 16:56:54
February 10 2023 16:55 GMT
#206
On February 11 2023 01:52 tlnetuser108 wrote:
How Clem can beat Serral but lose to Dark is beyond me. We know Serral is better than Dark

Stylistic differences. I cannot remember a high profile match where Clem beat Dark.

Also Smix is doing a great job with translations / interviews.

If you recall, at one of the TSLs, Dark beat Clem when Clem was considered by a lot of people to have the best TvZ in the world.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
February 10 2023 16:56 GMT
#207
On February 11 2023 01:55 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2023 01:52 tlnetuser108 wrote:
How Clem can beat Serral but lose to Dark is beyond me. We know Serral is better than Dark

Who knows that?


That's bait.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1237 Posts
February 10 2023 16:56 GMT
#208
On February 11 2023 01:52 tlnetuser108 wrote:
How Clem can beat Serral but lose to Dark is beyond me. We know Serral is better than Dark

? I'm a Serral fan but it's pretty clear that Dark is best in the world at ZvT a lot of the time (at other times Serral looks like the best in the world at the MU.)

Also this is offline, Clem mainly beats Serral in DHM.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
February 10 2023 16:58 GMT
#209
Looks like Maru v Classic will be on main stream after HM v Byun. Is there somewhere to see all the player cards?
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 17:00:29
February 10 2023 16:59 GMT
#210
Alright, big test for big Gabe. You upset one of the big Korean Terrans. Can you do it twice?

Wait wtf. Next game for B stream is HeroMarine vs Lambo and next game for the main stream is HeroMarine vs Byun. They're really going to make him play back to back like that?

That sucks.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18035 Posts
February 10 2023 16:59 GMT
#211
I don't get the scheduling today. Having the extra group A game on the main stage appears to have thrown everything out of whack, with the B and C stream twiddling their thumbs...
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3408 Posts
February 10 2023 17:01 GMT
#212
So after just more than 1.5 day into the tournament, 3 Protoss has been eliminated with a 4th (Classic) is on the verge as well. That leave 2 Protoss (herO and Creator) into the Ro12 and with 5 Terran + 5 Zerg, what a perfect ration. Somebody tell me why Protoss get nerfed again?
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3408 Posts
February 10 2023 17:02 GMT
#213
On February 11 2023 01:59 Acrofales wrote:
I don't get the scheduling today. Having the extra group A game on the main stage appears to have thrown everything out of whack, with the B and C stream twiddling their thumbs...

ESL somehow have 2 groups play on the main stage twice per days. Yesterday it was group B and D, today its group A and C. And yes, thats just how they want to push the schedule back, probably to make it a 10hrs stream.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
February 10 2023 17:04 GMT
#214
On February 11 2023 02:01 tigera6 wrote:
So after just more than 1.5 day into the tournament, 3 Protoss has been eliminated with a 4th (Classic) is on the verge as well. That leave 2 Protoss (herO and Creator) into the Ro12 and with 5 Terran + 5 Zerg, what a perfect ration. Somebody tell me why Protoss get nerfed again?


This probably would have happened even without the patch but it does make the smell of the balance changes reek when the worst performing race got the least from it and the best performing race got the most.

That said, Protoss needs more than a couple of bones thrown their way to make up for the lack of talent playing the race right now. They need MaxPax to start playing LANs and they need Classic to get his mojo back.

It also really sucks that Classic got thrown into group D, he might have been able to do something had he gotten placed in Group B instead.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12889 Posts
February 10 2023 17:04 GMT
#215
On February 11 2023 01:52 tlnetuser108 wrote:
How Clem can beat Serral but lose to Dark is beyond me. We know Serral is better than Dark

Is he though?
And it’s a new mappool + patch specifically designed to buff zerg since Maru/herO/Clem managed to win tournaments this season. I don’t think Serral would have lost to Clem in these conditions either
WriterMaru
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
February 10 2023 17:05 GMT
#216
On February 11 2023 02:01 tigera6 wrote:
So after just more than 1.5 day into the tournament, 3 Protoss has been eliminated with a 4th (Classic) is on the verge as well. That leave 2 Protoss (herO and Creator) into the Ro12 and with 5 Terran + 5 Zerg, what a perfect ration. Somebody tell me why Protoss get nerfed again?

Not unexpected. I would have only been truly shocked if herO didn't make it. Astrea, Showtime and Creator are inconsistent and Classic is nowhere near his old self.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
mpmaley86
Profile Joined May 2019
115 Posts
February 10 2023 17:05 GMT
#217
Gabe, 100 size ranking!
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4953 Posts
February 10 2023 17:05 GMT
#218
omg HM card.... glorious!
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
mintyminmus
Profile Joined September 2022
Australia127 Posts
February 10 2023 17:05 GMT
#219
The production probably thought the clem vs dark match-up would produce some great back-and-forth drama worthy to make it the only thing going on, while unfortunately clem just kinda dies.
xyfan
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
February 10 2023 17:11 GMT
#220
ByuN hairstyle killing it
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