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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
February 08 2023 21:12 GMT
#121
It's too bad for Ryung that he had multiple Zergs in his path. In a TvP, TvT path it looks likely he would have advanced.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
February 08 2023 21:17 GMT
#122
On February 09 2023 06:12 JJH777 wrote:
It's too bad for Ryung that he had multiple Zergs in his path. In a TvP, TvT path it looks likely he would have advanced.


At some point he needs to just not be so helpless in TvZ, he can't rely on bracket luck to avoid Zerg in every tournament especially if he's going to play in an international tournament.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3517 Posts
February 08 2023 21:20 GMT
#123
Ryung with too many control failures :/
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
February 08 2023 21:22 GMT
#124
On February 09 2023 06:17 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2023 06:12 JJH777 wrote:
It's too bad for Ryung that he had multiple Zergs in his path. In a TvP, TvT path it looks likely he would have advanced.


At some point he needs to just not be so helpless in TvZ, he can't rely on bracket luck to avoid Zerg in every tournament especially if he's going to play in an international tournament.

Ryung needs to train with MMA.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
February 08 2023 21:47 GMT
#125
On February 09 2023 05:10 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2023 03:10 tigera6 wrote:
On February 09 2023 02:54 Poopi wrote:
On February 09 2023 02:46 tigera6 wrote:
Hydra stuttering off-creep looks OP to me

Why did they buff a staple and strong unit?
It's like buffing the marine, it seems really weird especially since zerg was not struggling. They can add micro potential in some other places

Hydra with range upgrade and this new speed off-creep make it nearly impossible to use Storm against them, they can just shoot from afar and move back when the storm drop down. I think Classic realize that as well and use Colossus on the last game instead,

Edit: Imagine if Classic get through the Ro36 only to be put on group D.

Hydra speed wasn't buffed tho. If you just move, hydras move at the same speed as before patch. The difference is just in how fast you can tell them to move again after a shot. Nothing has really changed in their ability to Dodge storms. Now if you were complaining about them kiting stalkers or something then yes, that was changed. But not their speed at which they can run away from storms....

They were buffed off creep in movement speed too, it says so and it shows when you play against them or watch games. Reading patch notes is hella annoying by nature especially with such a long list, but I read it thoughtfully
WriterMaru
Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States459 Posts
February 08 2023 22:01 GMT
#126
The thing in TvZ is I just think theres a mechanical floor you need to be able to succeed. I dont think theres much room for tactical or strategic victories (until TY big brains the matchup but even he complained about this in the past) like you can get vP and especially vT. Just seemed like Ryung lacked control in critical situations.
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3126 Posts
February 08 2023 22:26 GMT
#127
Spirit vs Zoun is a really great series so far
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
February 08 2023 22:51 GMT
#128
those fake nukes are a new idea to me, that's at least very interesting
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-08 23:01:24
February 08 2023 23:00 GMT
#129
such a hilarious game, is that 0 scv strat working ?

edit : I guess not haha
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
February 08 2023 23:14 GMT
#130
Didnt expect Spirit in top24
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18160 Posts
February 08 2023 23:18 GMT
#131
Poland standing strong. I really didn't expect Spirit to fight his way through that bracket, but that was impressive!
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 08 2023 23:18 GMT
#132
Only just tuned in for the last game.

Looked rough for Zoun, maybe he's just tired from the long day but his reactions were awful there. His initial response to the mines was sloppy and even after cleaning up the drop he wasn't re-saturating his base. And then the supply blocks lost him the game
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Beelzebub1
Profile Joined May 2015
1004 Posts
February 08 2023 23:32 GMT
#133
Excellent games, big props to Spirit for upping his game.

Those next groups look absolutely insane, I think Hero and Serral are destined to forever battle each other.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3505 Posts
February 08 2023 23:34 GMT
#134
Amazing first day. Great showing from the Poles.
See ya tomorrow! ^^
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
February 08 2023 23:39 GMT
#135
Group B is really the group of life. Crazy that we are guaranteed to have 2 players out of Astrea, Showtime, Gumiho, Spirit, and Creator in the ro12.
TossHeroes
Profile Joined February 2022
281 Posts
February 09 2023 00:35 GMT
#136
Very doable group for Classic mainly PvT

As long as he doesn’t play macro game
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
February 09 2023 04:49 GMT
#137
On February 09 2023 09:35 TossHeroes wrote:
Very doable group for Classic mainly PvT

As long as he doesn’t play macro game

I mean, maybe I'll be proven wrong but I feel like any of those Terrans will stomp him. Maru and Bunny at least.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3446 Posts
February 09 2023 04:55 GMT
#138
On February 09 2023 13:49 QOGQOG wrote:
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On February 09 2023 09:35 TossHeroes wrote:
Very doable group for Classic mainly PvT

As long as he doesn’t play macro game

I mean, maybe I'll be proven wrong but I feel like any of those Terrans will stomp him. Maru and Bunny at least.

When Classic play PvT recently, he has some of the strongest timing push, what failed him was the execution, just like how he lost the Prism to Elazer. If he can clean it up then he has a good shot.
TossHeroes
Profile Joined February 2022
281 Posts
February 09 2023 04:59 GMT
#139
On February 09 2023 13:49 QOGQOG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2023 09:35 TossHeroes wrote:
Very doable group for Classic mainly PvT

As long as he doesn’t play macro game

I mean, maybe I'll be proven wrong but I feel like any of those Terrans will stomp him. Maru and Bunny at least.


You just need to have some faithhhh

Classic will get stomp in macro games. He needs to stick to timing attacks or cheese. Has style
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
February 09 2023 05:45 GMT
#140
Poor Clem got the short hand of the stick with this draw, as usual.
Group B is the weakest by far while Maru got a good draw in Classic in theory (let’s see on this mappool / patch).
WriterMaru
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