I wonder what the difference is between this tournament which feels like a nice change of pace, and stuff like Nation Wars where the 2v2 felt like an annoying distraction. Maybe mixed 1v1/2v2 tournaments just aren't the way to go.

Also, it does help that WTL 2v2 has more prize money and a stronger player roster than any 2v2 tourney before it. It probably won't supplant 1v1, but maybe there's an appetite for more of these competitions going forward? I thought some of production like the live player comms were great, and an objective benefit over 1v1.

Phanekim

United States777 Posts

January 08 2023 03:08 GMT

#41

I think back in the day with some tournaments like PTSL (10+ years ago) they let you hear the comms. Destiny and Minigun were hilarious. The comms definitely are a huge plus. So I agree there.

Since 2v2 has many more different possible matchups, the bigger map pool selection with different maps outside of ladder was a very good move.

I wanted a bit more PP, TT, and ZZ teams or maybe randoms in there too. Perhaps a bonus prize for same race combos or if they random. The bonus prize should incentivize those combinations to be chosen.

I wouldn't mind allowing for qualification for known 2v2 players to participate.

I think there is interest if the meta becomes more varied beyond the mass phoenix that we saw with the previous patches. I think the carrier nerf in this ptr patch may allow draw it away from that tendency.

Azzur

Australia6260 Posts

January 08 2023 11:10 GMT

#42

On January 08 2023 08:31 Waxangel wrote:
I wonder what the difference is between this tournament which feels like a nice change of pace, and stuff like Nation Wars where the 2v2 felt like an annoying distraction. Maybe mixed 1v1/2v2 tournaments just aren't the way to go.

Also, it does help that WTL 2v2 has more prize money and a stronger player roster than any 2v2 tourney before it. It probably won't supplant 1v1, but maybe there's an appetite for more of these competitions going forward? I thought some of production like the live player comms were great, and an objective benefit over 1v1.

https://twitter.com/WTL_SC2/status/1611713841737629696

Glad I was there to witness this exchange live. And whilst I think 2v2 won't take over 1v1, I think it's fantastic. And helps that the tournament has a decent prize pool which extracts good players and makes it more meaningful.

digmouse

China6331 Posts

January 08 2023 14:27 GMT

#43

Agree that 2v2 being its own thing is definitely the way to go.

Elentos

55571 Posts

January 08 2023 16:02 GMT

#44

Making carriers is a good skill toi have

buzz_bender

445 Posts

January 08 2023 16:03 GMT

#45

Great finals!

swarminfestor

Malaysia2450 Posts

January 08 2023 16:04 GMT

#46

Definitely a dope series.

Waxangel

United States33592 Posts

January 08 2023 16:23 GMT

#47

Would be interested to see this kind of tournament with free team making instead of players being bound to their pro teams.

Elentos

55571 Posts

January 08 2023 16:40 GMT

#48

On January 09 2023 01:23 Waxangel wrote:
Would be interested to see this kind of tournament with free team making instead of players being bound to their pro teams.

TSL 2v2 edition, get it funded Wax.

Crocolisk Dundee

870 Posts

January 08 2023 17:58 GMT

#49

On January 09 2023 01:23 Waxangel wrote:
Would be interested to see this kind of tournament with free team making instead of players being bound to their pro teams.

I agree. I haven't watched a lot of pro 2v2, but the format is refreshingly different. I would like to see more after this tournament.