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Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States776 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-08 03:54:37
January 08 2023 03:08 GMT
#41
I think back in the day with some tournaments like PTSL (10+ years ago) they let you hear the comms. Destiny and Minigun were hilarious. The comms definitely are a huge plus. So I agree there.

Since 2v2 has many more different possible matchups, the bigger map pool selection with different maps outside of ladder was a very good move.

I wanted a bit more PP, TT, and ZZ teams or maybe randoms in there too. Perhaps a bonus prize for same race combos or if they random. The bonus prize should incentivize those combinations to be chosen.

I wouldn't mind allowing for qualification for known 2v2 players to participate.

I think there is interest if the meta becomes more varied beyond the mass phoenix that we saw with the previous patches. I think the carrier nerf in this ptr patch may allow draw it away from that tendency.
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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6146 Posts
January 08 2023 11:10 GMT
#42
On January 08 2023 08:31 Waxangel wrote:
I wonder what the difference is between this tournament which feels like a nice change of pace, and stuff like Nation Wars where the 2v2 felt like an annoying distraction. Maybe mixed 1v1/2v2 tournaments just aren't the way to go.

Also, it does help that WTL 2v2 has more prize money and a stronger player roster than any 2v2 tourney before it. It probably won't supplant 1v1, but maybe there's an appetite for more of these competitions going forward? I thought some of production like the live player comms were great, and an objective benefit over 1v1.


Glad I was there to witness this exchange live. And whilst I think 2v2 won't take over 1v1, I think it's fantastic. And helps that the tournament has a decent prize pool which extracts good players and makes it more meaningful.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6029 Posts
January 08 2023 14:27 GMT
#43
Agree that 2v2 being its own thing is definitely the way to go.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55250 Posts
January 08 2023 16:02 GMT
#44
Making carriers is a good skill toi have
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buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
380 Posts
January 08 2023 16:03 GMT
#45
Great finals!
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2032 Posts
January 08 2023 16:04 GMT
#46
Definitely a dope series.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States31525 Posts
January 08 2023 16:23 GMT
#47
Would be interested to see this kind of tournament with free team making instead of players being bound to their pro teams.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55250 Posts
January 08 2023 16:40 GMT
#48
On January 09 2023 01:23 Waxangel wrote:
Would be interested to see this kind of tournament with free team making instead of players being bound to their pro teams.

TSL 2v2 edition, get it funded Wax.
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Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
691 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-08 17:58:36
January 08 2023 17:58 GMT
#49
On January 09 2023 01:23 Waxangel wrote:
Would be interested to see this kind of tournament with free team making instead of players being bound to their pro teams.


I agree. I haven't watched a lot of pro 2v2, but the format is refreshingly different. I would like to see more after this tournament.
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24079 Posts
January 08 2023 22:32 GMT
#50
That was a lot of fun.
tskarzyn
Profile Joined July 2010
United States492 Posts
January 10 2023 12:53 GMT
#51
Watching Serral and Time run circles around turtle carrier play was quite satisfying...
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam8941 Posts
January 10 2023 13:25 GMT
#52
This is actually much more interesting to watch than I expected. Probably because of the level of the players.
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