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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 05 2022 15:35 GMT
#101
On November 06 2022 00:29 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Byun vs Maru should be fun to watch at least, if their crazy GSL match was anything to go by


Clem Dark will also be sick if it's that, although I'm afraid Clem will get roached.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3419 Posts
November 05 2022 15:40 GMT
#102
On November 06 2022 00:35 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2022 00:21 Athenau wrote:
Is it just me, or have terrans been getting a lot more value out of their banshees in TvZ lately?


Yes, I noticed this at least with Clem.

Clem plays 3CC - Banshee in 85% of his TvZ as an economy build, and thats why Serral and Reynor are much better at defending against Banshee as they face it all the time. KR Terran barely play any Banshee opening in TvZ and thats why the KR Zerg arent not as smooth in the defense effort. I once saw Solar lost 3 Queen to a simple 2 Banshee push because his Queen was out of range of the spore.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 05 2022 15:43 GMT
#103
On November 06 2022 00:40 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2022 00:35 Pandain wrote:
On November 06 2022 00:21 Athenau wrote:
Is it just me, or have terrans been getting a lot more value out of their banshees in TvZ lately?


Yes, I noticed this at least with Clem.

Clem plays 3CC - Banshee in 85% of his TvZ as an economy build, and thats why Serral and Reynor are much better at defending against Banshee as they face it all the time. KR Terran barely play any Banshee opening in TvZ and thats why the KR Zerg arent not as smooth in the defense effort. I once saw Solar lost 3 Queen to a simple 2 Banshee push because his Queen was out of range of the spore.


It's also why Clem's the best at it, because in addition to his insane micro he plays that build all the time haha.

Hoping Dark wins. Clem-Dark would be sick, and then Maru/Dark or Maru/Clem would be pretty sick as well.
AkemiHomura
Profile Joined November 2022
2 Posts
November 05 2022 15:48 GMT
#104
Noooooooooooo
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 05 2022 15:48 GMT
#105
Dark most entertaining player of all time?
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1209 Posts
November 05 2022 15:51 GMT
#106
DARK!!!!!!!!
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4954 Posts
November 05 2022 15:52 GMT
#107
On November 06 2022 00:48 Pandain wrote:
Dark most entertaining player of all time?



You have to give that to Rogue
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-05 17:48:57
November 05 2022 17:48 GMT
#108
On November 06 2022 00:52 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2022 00:48 Pandain wrote:
Dark most entertaining player of all time?



You have to give that to Rogue

Rogue is probably amongst the least entertaining players of all time. When he's at his most creative the games are absolutely terrible. Actually I'm not even sure I would call him creative - he's just good at picking abusive builds.
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-05 18:06:21
November 05 2022 18:02 GMT
#109
On November 06 2022 00:52 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2022 00:48 Pandain wrote:
Dark most entertaining player of all time?



You have to give that to Rogue

IMO Maru is the most entertaining player of all time, but Dark and Serral are numbers 2 and 3.

On November 06 2022 02:48 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2022 00:52 Argonauta wrote:
On November 06 2022 00:48 Pandain wrote:
Dark most entertaining player of all time?



You have to give that to Rogue

Rogue is probably amongst the least entertaining players of all time. When he's at his most creative the games are absolutely terrible. Actually I'm not even sure I would call him creative - he's just good at picking abusive builds.

Agree 100%.
TossHeroes
Profile Joined February 2022
281 Posts
November 05 2022 18:47 GMT
#110
Dark saving us from tvt snooze fest

Dark the hero we need
TossHeroes
Profile Joined February 2022
281 Posts
November 05 2022 18:53 GMT
#111
On November 06 2022 02:48 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2022 00:52 Argonauta wrote:
On November 06 2022 00:48 Pandain wrote:
Dark most entertaining player of all time?



You have to give that to Rogue

Rogue is probably amongst the least entertaining players of all time. When he's at his most creative the games are absolutely terrible. Actually I'm not even sure I would call him creative - he's just good at picking abusive builds.


I dunno. I find rogue games the most entertaining.

His abusive builds and one sided beat down are absolutely entertaining and full of lols.

Maru long tvz are the definition of least entertaining. Especially once he decides to turtle up and mine up the map. Literally nothing significant happens for the next 20-30 minutes. For Maru fanboys they call this the “peak of sc skills”. While the majority of the casual fan base dies of boredom
DarkGamer
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany323 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-05 19:04:29
November 05 2022 19:01 GMT
#112
I guess it depends on the understanding of the spectator. U only can appreciate insane mutitasking and micro, macro and decision making to the fullest, if u have enough knowledge of how hard and (almost) impossible it is. To even get in these lategame situations without beeing behind needs so much skill.

On November 06 2022 03:53 TossHeroes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2022 02:48 Pandain wrote:
On November 06 2022 00:52 Argonauta wrote:
On November 06 2022 00:48 Pandain wrote:
Dark most entertaining player of all time?



You have to give that to Rogue

Rogue is probably amongst the least entertaining players of all time. When he's at his most creative the games are absolutely terrible. Actually I'm not even sure I would call him creative - he's just good at picking abusive builds.


I dunno. I find rogue games the most entertaining.

His abusive builds and one sided beat down are absolutely entertaining and full of lols.

Maru long tvz are the definition of least entertaining. Especially once he decides to turtle up and mine up the map. Literally nothing significant happens for the next 20-30 minutes. For Maru fanboys they call this the “peak of sc skills”. While the majority of the casual fan base dies of boredom

Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4954 Posts
November 05 2022 19:07 GMT
#113
On November 06 2022 02:48 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2022 00:52 Argonauta wrote:
On November 06 2022 00:48 Pandain wrote:
Dark most entertaining player of all time?



You have to give that to Rogue

Rogue is probably amongst the least entertaining players of all time. When he's at his most creative the games are absolutely terrible. Actually I'm not even sure I would call him creative - he's just good at picking abusive builds.




Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4954 Posts
November 05 2022 19:10 GMT
#114
On November 06 2022 04:01 DarkGamer wrote:
I guess it depends on the understanding of the spectator. U only can appreciate insane mutitasking and micro, macro and decision making to the fullest, if u have enough knowledge of how hard and (almost) impossible it is. To even get in these lategame situations without beeing behind needs so much skill.

Show nested quote +
On November 06 2022 03:53 TossHeroes wrote:
On November 06 2022 02:48 Pandain wrote:
On November 06 2022 00:52 Argonauta wrote:
On November 06 2022 00:48 Pandain wrote:
Dark most entertaining player of all time?



You have to give that to Rogue

Rogue is probably amongst the least entertaining players of all time. When he's at his most creative the games are absolutely terrible. Actually I'm not even sure I would call him creative - he's just good at picking abusive builds.


I dunno. I find rogue games the most entertaining.

His abusive builds and one sided beat down are absolutely entertaining and full of lols.

Maru long tvz are the definition of least entertaining. Especially once he decides to turtle up and mine up the map. Literally nothing significant happens for the next 20-30 minutes. For Maru fanboys they call this the “peak of sc skills”. While the majority of the casual fan base dies of boredom




Literally this, the way he set ups his army effortless and the on point rotations to defend multiple bases locating every unit when it needs to be when he does those turtle games are the best tactical starcraft I have seen.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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t5Fab
Profile Joined July 2018
183 Posts
November 05 2022 19:36 GMT
#115
sOs was the most entertaining player ever, period.
You never knew what he was going to do: redefine the meta or proxy 3gate in you opponent base 3 games in a row.
Also he was the best at base trades so he initiated them quite often, and base trades are always fun and tense
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
688 Posts
November 05 2022 20:02 GMT
#116
On November 06 2022 02:48 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2022 00:52 Argonauta wrote:
On November 06 2022 00:48 Pandain wrote:
Dark most entertaining player of all time?



You have to give that to Rogue

Rogue is probably amongst the least entertaining players of all time. When he's at his most creative the games are absolutely terrible. Actually I'm not even sure I would call him creative - he's just good at picking abusive builds.

Rogue's play is very visually unappealing, but he really plays it as a strategy game. It's great viewing as a player, since you can always see exactly what he's playing for, and how he's chosen to solve the game in front of him. All the other players have cooler tricks and stuff, but Rogue really bares the essentials of the game in a way that nobody else has quite replicated. Really great player to analyze, though not for leisure viewing admittedly
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16089 Posts
November 05 2022 21:44 GMT
#117
On November 06 2022 03:47 TossHeroes wrote:
Dark saving us from tvt snooze fest

Dark the hero we need


We should be careful what we wish for. Dark is as unpredictable as any player. He could just go on to win this whole thing and give us yet ANOTHER Zerg champion just because he feels like it.

Dude DGAF that all the other Zergs bombed out in quick fashion.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16089 Posts
November 05 2022 21:48 GMT
#118
On November 06 2022 04:36 t5Fab wrote:
sOs was the most entertaining player ever, period.
You never knew what he was going to do: redefine the meta or proxy 3gate in you opponent base 3 games in a row.
Also he was the best at base trades so he initiated them quite often, and base trades are always fun and tense

aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
November 06 2022 10:45 GMT
#119
Unconventional players are always fun to watch, and dominating players are also always a show. Dark is both, and that's why he's the most entertaining. And even when he's winning easy matches he's enough of a showman to make it fun.

sOs is another good shout. Although he's probably the biggest hype killer in sc2 history so maybe not.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55554 Posts
November 06 2022 11:15 GMT
#120
I like how the shelf behind Maru has like 15 trophies and the shelf behind Byun has 1 plushie.
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