EPTOn August 26 2022 05:24 BelethielQT wrote:
since when is code s the hardest tournament?
since when is code s the hardest tournament?
since the dawn and inception sc2 history?
[GSL 2022] Code S:Season 3 - Ro20 Group B - Page 12
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allmotor1
153 Posts
since the dawn and inception sc2 history? | ||
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allmotor1
153 Posts
he can't that's why it's a new account to troll | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17723 Posts
On August 25 2022 21:47 dbRic1203 wrote: I wouldn t even say, it favours Koreans, but players who a used to the format, wich are mostly Koreans. Special for example excells at preperation based tournaments as well, even though he isn t Korean. He was just in GSL so long,m that he is more used to preparing. On the other side Reynor didn t prepare at all but relied simply on his (ridculous high) baseline skill level. But that is clearly not enough, when your opponents have prepared specifically for playing you. in the interview at the end, DRG said he didn't prepare for ZvZ/Reynor | ||
Cricketer12
United States13990 Posts
On August 26 2022 05:59 Die4Ever wrote: in the interview at the end, DRG said he didn't prepare for ZvZ/Reynor Focusing on tougher opponents. Good strategy | ||
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Cold-Blood
United States200 Posts
On August 26 2022 06:24 Cricketer12 wrote: Focusing on tougher opponents. Good strategy he said in the pre-recorded questions between matches he was worried about him and expected him the go all the way, exactly like bunny and dream, he also offered the only nostradamus opinion stating he was interested to see reynor in a long-form style tournament which obviously gave him a bit of misstep on his first attempt to change the subject a little, sheesh i love state and tasteless what a great combo, tasteosis will always have GOAT status, but I am not mad one bit to continue on with this for the future, i know artosis and tasteless love sc2 but it is nice to have someone who plays regularly as well | ||
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Kitaen
Austria466 Posts
Starting to get good at a game when the pro scene is essentially crippled it like bragging on World of Warcraft PvE achievements in 2022. The only active players that can be mentioned in such discussion are Maru (since he was good when SC2 was still big) and Serral since he was SO dominant. Yet there are a lot more players that would have priority such as MVP, Life and Innovation. | ||
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tigera6
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HeroSandro
532 Posts
On August 26 2022 03:14 [Phantom] wrote: I'm happy. Im SO HAPPY that Reynor lost. Not only did he lose he was humilliated being the first player to be eliminated in his group. HOPEFULLY this will once and for all eliminate those disscussions about him and serral being the GOATs. You simply cannot be the GOAT if you havent won a GSL. GSL is the longest running tournament of all. The most prestigious and the most difficult. Raynor is a great player, but he was arrogant and paid for it. IF there is a GSL next year, maybe he can try again and will surely prepare better. In the mean time, it is just clear how much difficult GSL is. How on earth Reynor losing means Serral is not a GOAT? Just thinking about the logic in this statement 😂The GOAT discussion is fruitles as everyone has their own criteria (have to win GSL etc). | ||
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gobbledydook
Australia2605 Posts
On August 26 2022 02:53 [PkF] Wire wrote: I was pretty confident about Bunny, but I can confess now that my mouse hovered for a very long time over DRG before I voted Reynor. I expected something like this, should have gone with my guts. I hope Reynor and foreigners in general don't give up on GSL, but that kind of result shows how insanely hard it remains to win that particular tourney. Going to rewatch the games now to see if preparation played a huge role in the Bunny loss or not. It seemed that Reynor got parade pushed twice. | ||
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neveranexit
14 Posts
the darkest day for EU SC2 Hard to imagine a more shameful result | ||
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Seacow
Sweden99 Posts
But as others have pointed out, Reynor's loss really drove home the point that GSL is a unique tournament. Bunny's two base pushes is a testament to the importance of preparation, Reynor seemed indecisive and unsure how to handle them. That's the beauty of GSL I suppose, the 200 IQ prep work bearing fruit. Weekend tournaments lack this component, but test other skills (endurance? Spontaneous adaptation?). What that means for goat discussions is not something with an objectice answer. There's merit to both tournament styles. Still, sad to see Reynor get knocked out. Despite this disappointing result I still consider him a world class player. Better luck (and prep?) next time! Also, some very unsavoury replies in this thread after his loss. Schadenfreude is ugly. | ||
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661
71 Posts
On August 26 2022 03:14 [Phantom] wrote: I'm happy. Im SO HAPPY that Reynor lost. Not only did he lose he was humilliated being the first player to be eliminated in his group. HOPEFULLY this will once and for all eliminate those disscussions about him and serral being the GOATs. You simply cannot be the GOAT if you havent won a GSL. GSL is the longest running tournament of all. The most prestigious and the most difficult. Raynor is a great player, but he was arrogant and paid for it. IF there is a GSL next year, maybe he can try again and will surely prepare better. In the mean time, it is just clear how much difficult GSL is. Im glad you’ve find something to be happy about | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16021 Posts
On August 26 2022 12:17 HeroSandro wrote: How on earth Reynor losing means Serral is not a GOAT? Just thinking about the logic in this statement 😂The GOAT discussion is fruitles as everyone has their own criteria (have to win GSL etc). Well some people said Serral would easily win the GSL if he ever tried and don't want to give him minus points for not having a ,GSL trophy because "he could have won it anytime if he wanted" so I think this shows winning the GSL is not as easy as some people thought | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16021 Posts
On August 26 2022 11:59 Kitaen wrote: As for the GOAT discussion, it is absolutely ridiculous to even mention Reynor, lol. He has literally not even a top 10 spot. Starting to get good at a game when the pro scene is essentially crippled it like bragging on World of Warcraft PvE achievements in 2022. The only active players that can be mentioned in such discussion are Maru (since he was good when SC2 was still big) and Serral since he was SO dominant. Yet there are a lot more players that would have priority such as MVP, Life and Innovation. I think it's either Maru or Rogue depending on criteria and shortly behind them Serral and Inno | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On August 26 2022 17:10 Charoisaur wrote: Well some people said Serral would easily win the GSL if he ever tried and don't want to give him minus points for not having a ,GSL trophy because "he could have won it anytime if he wanted" so I think this shows winning the GSL is not as easy as some people thought anyone who says someone could win a GSL "easily" on their first attempt is not worth listening to anyway | ||
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
And on the overdone GOAT debate: I think this helps to show how impressive Maru and Rogue's 4 GSLs really are - they indicate prowess in a kind of cut-throat high-prep format that Serral hasn't been tested in. That said, I'd expect Serral would have a better shot at getting through that group than Reynor. | ||
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dysenterymd
1250 Posts
On August 26 2022 17:10 Charoisaur wrote: Well some people said Serral would easily win the GSL if he ever tried and don't want to give him minus points for not having a ,GSL trophy because "he could have won it anytime if he wanted" so I think this shows winning the GSL is not as easy as some people thought If Serral spent a year living in Korea and focusing hard on GSL I think he'd have a good chance of winning a season, but I doubt he could fly in and just snatch the trophy lol. Also any Reynor goat discussion is ridiculous. He's clearly an incredible talent, but his trophy case is well behind so many players (Serral, Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, sOs, MVP) and his world championship was played online. If competitive SC2 goes on for a while and he becomes more consistent he maybe has a chance to enter the conversation. (My 2 cents is that Rogue is pretty clearly the goat, even if I'm not a huge fan of him) | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7021 Posts
On August 26 2022 03:14 [Phantom] wrote: I'm happy. Im SO HAPPY that Reynor lost. Not only did he lose he was humilliated being the first player to be eliminated in his group. HOPEFULLY this will once and for all eliminate those disscussions about him and serral being the GOATs. You simply cannot be the GOAT if you havent won a GSL. GSL is the longest running tournament of all. The most prestigious and the most difficult. Raynor is a great player, but he was arrogant and paid for it. IF there is a GSL next year, maybe he can try again and will surely prepare better. In the mean time, it is just clear how much difficult GSL is. Reynor lost ergo Serral can't be GOAT... wait! what? Since when is Reynor the top forgein contender for GOAT anyway? IMO Reynor doesn't hold a candle to Serral who is arguably in the top 3 of all time depending on metrics and whatnot | ||
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