EPT[GSL 2022] Code S:Season 3 - Ro20 Group B - Page 10
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RKC
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Cricketer12
United States13975 Posts
On August 25 2022 11:39 Cricketer12 wrote: I lb'd bunny drg. I dont think reynor makes it through. 😎 | ||
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Husyelt
United States834 Posts
On August 25 2022 23:19 Moonerz wrote: I just think it shows the difference between WCS EU/NA and GSL. People always clown when Maru or other big KR players bomb out early in GSL but really its just the level across the board is higher so if you have a bad day (or Rogue being lazy after a tourney win  ) you can lose early on. As opposed to WCS where even if Reynor is sub par early on in the tournament hes not going to lose to those players. Had Reynor beat Bunny I think he gets out in first place in the group but once he lost that match it was always going to be tough for him. GSL’s prestige is somewhat artificial in that you have to literally fly across the world to an island country and qualify there locally, spending a month to win. When it comes down to it, if you have an easy group and advance you go straight to the RO10. I consider Katowice to be harder than a GSL tbh. At least Reynor beat Zoun and Dream to qualify, not the worst performance. Astrea also showed great games, hope they both return. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
Is it tho | ||
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nlhtrung
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
3 sides bordered by ocean and the most militarized border in the world on its 4th side. Close enough right? | ||
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On August 26 2022 00:09 Husyelt wrote: GSL’s prestige is somewhat artificial in that you have to literally fly across the world to an island country and qualify there locally, spending a month to win. When it comes down to it, if you have an easy group and advance you go straight to the RO10. I consider Katowice to be harder than a GSL tbh. At least Reynor beat Zoun and Dream to qualify, not the worst performance. Astrea also showed great games, hope they both return. Katowice is literally the culmination of the year in terms of tournaments so I'd hope it's harder than GSL yeah lol | ||
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JJH777
United States4408 Posts
On August 26 2022 00:09 Husyelt wrote: GSL’s prestige is somewhat artificial in that you have to literally fly across the world to an island country and qualify there locally, spending a month to win. When it comes down to it, if you have an easy group and advance you go straight to the RO10. I consider Katowice to be harder than a GSL tbh. At least Reynor beat Zoun and Dream to qualify, not the worst performance. Astrea also showed great games, hope they both return. If Katowice is the only thing harder than GSL then that's pretty damn prestigious... What group would have been easier for Reynor than this one? That's the thing about GSL. There are no truly easy groups. Serral/Reynor are overrated because of their consistency but being consistent when you have near byes the first two rounds of all but a couple events a year is a lot easier than being consistent in Korea where even if you're one of the best you play against players who can eliminate you in every single round of both GSL and Super Tournament. | ||
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SHODAN
United Kingdom1122 Posts
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RKC
2848 Posts
Do Serral and Reynor travel by bus or train to Katowice and all live EU tourneys? Top foreigner pros afraid of flying? The distance and time zone difference isn't as bad as NA. Yet, Special and Neeb have no qualms travelling. And what's wrong with staying over a month for the competition? Is the World Cup less prestigious than the Champions League because the poor players have to camp and rough out in some desolate non-first world country (or 'island country' like South Korea and Japan) for a month to win the World Cup rather than playing under the lights of Paris or Wembley? | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On August 26 2022 01:27 RKC wrote: Korea is an 'island country' - how in Aiur does that even matter? Do Serral and Reynor travel by bus or train to Katowice and all live EU tourneys? Top foreigner pros afraid of flying? The distance and time zone difference isn't as bad as NA. Yet, Special and Neeb have no qualms travelling. And what's wrong with staying over a month for the competition? Is the World Cup less prestigious than the Champions League because the poor players have to camp and rough out in some desolate non-first world country (or 'island country' like South Korea and Japan) for a month to win the World Cup rather than playing under the lights of Paris or Wembley? It's just massive amounts of copium from the fans that are DESPERATE to say that foreigners are the best SC2 players now despite all evidence to the contrary. The biggest indicator of how untrue that is that no foreigner has ever won a GSL Code S, in fact the closest thing we've seen was Jinro back in 2010. In 12 years no one has gotten closer than he has. So rather than encourage more foreign fans from competing in GSL these are fans that would rather try and diminish the GSL's importance and they come up with all sorts of ridiculous justifications such as "omg you we gotta travel to KOREA!!!?" even though Koreans have to travel to international tournaments to compete but they're Korean so they should be expected to come to us. It's a double standard that has existed in SC2 since as far back as the MLG days. So now that the consensus top 2 player in the non-Korean world just went and bombed out in the first round of Code S all of the excuses and justifications for him losing are going to come out because it's easier for these guys to bash the GSL than to admit that Korea is still the most competitive region or that the star player had a poor showing. | ||
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RogerChillingworth
2942 Posts
I don't see Reynor sticking around in KR but I hope he does and comes back stronger next time. | ||
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Khabra
Poland38 Posts
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HeroSandro
531 Posts
On August 26 2022 02:16 Khabra wrote: This result by Reynor puts a massive doubt on 'goat discussion', in my opinion, as he was quite successful in rivalry with Serral on foreign scene. Looks like Koreans try much harder in gsl than other tournaments. Korea still the powerhouse! Or Reynor does not try that much when in Korea. People are really overreacting to one result. Reynor winning or losing does not proof anything. Reynor is not the avatar of every foreigner ever. | ||
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JJH777
United States4408 Posts
On August 26 2022 02:01 RogerChillingworth wrote: It's just 1 day of games holy shit it doesn't mean that Reynor sucks or that Korea is super dominant still. It's SC2. It's a super volatile game. Peanut gallery chads popping off in forum chats while their hearthstone turn timer burns down. I don't see Reynor sticking around in KR but I hope he does and comes back stronger next time. Of course it doesn't mean Reynor sucks. It's just a nice wake up call to all the people who have used top Koreans lack of consistency against them in various arguments. They aren't inconsistent GSL and Super tournament are just harder than anything besides world championships. | ||
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ShowTheLights
Korea (South)1691 Posts
On August 25 2022 11:30 ShowTheLights wrote: Reynor gets out of this group easily Bunny falls out Whelp......... | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
Korean pros have won both. Foreigners have yet to achieve both feats. That's why people think that GSL is important for foreigners. Not because GSL is better or harder, but because winning GSL would prove that the foreigner is truly a complete player - a champion of all seasons. | ||
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Kitai
United States873 Posts
And no, I'm not a Reynor/EU fan boy - the same is true on the other side whenever he or Serral takes a championship against top KR players or a weaker foreigner has a good day and upsets a good KR player. Where are my fellow moderates at?  | ||
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On August 25 2022 11:30 ShowTheLights wrote: Reynor gets out of this group easily Bunny falls out Two seasons in a row, man, might be time for you to reevaluate your Bunny opinions On August 26 2022 02:34 Kitai wrote: The amount of reading into one player in one group stage to make sweeping statements about the state of SC2 regions in this thread is wild. It's like everyone's world view hangs in the delicate balance of the latest result so they can either make excuses or say they were right all along and are the smartest and wisest SC2 fan ever as proven by two best of threes. And no, I'm not a Reynor/EU fan boy - the same is true on the other side whenever he or Serral takes a championship against top KR players or a weaker foreigner has a good day and upsets a good KR player. Where are my fellow moderates at? We don't talk because there isn't much to say other than "GSL is tough, better luck next time" | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24207 Posts
Going to rewatch the games now to see if preparation played a huge role in the Bunny loss or not. | ||
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