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dysenterymd
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tigera6
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JoeCool
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Elentos
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Vision_
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On August 20 2022 23:25 Elentos wrote: I respect the full commitment to an army fight from Serral right after losing his roach warren and hydra den and while not remaking either. I think struggling is respectfull too, but you can t win matchs without army and structures | ||
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Vision_
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dysenterymd
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Honestly if Serral didn't attack in so many times it might have worked. | ||
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Vision_
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On August 20 2022 23:40 dysenterymd wrote: Well that sure was a build. Honestly if Serral didn't attack in so many times it might have worked. It s good to watch variations in build orders, i like !!! except in PvZ because most openers are from stargate  I hate more PvZ than ZvZ now .... | ||
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Elentos
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On August 20 2022 23:46 Vision_ wrote: It s good to watch variations in build orders, i like !!! except in PvZ because most openers are from stargate I hate more PvZ than ZvZ now .... I find it interesting that this bothers you now when stargate has been the best way to open against Zerg for almost 10 years (outside of very committed early attacks). Especially because there's great variability of what happens after the stargate. | ||
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tigera6
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Vision_
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On August 20 2022 23:54 Elentos wrote: I find it interesting that this bothers you now when stargate has been the best way to open against Zerg for almost 10 years (outside of very committed early attacks). Especially because there's great variability of what happens after the stargate. It s more about 6 years LoTV has been released. And even that s not the case at the start of LoTV that stargate was the main opener, you are assuming to say that WoL and HotS have the same meta than LotV... Then maybe you can satisfy yourself about watching at the same builds for years but not me | ||
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Durnuu
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On August 21 2022 00:28 Vision_ wrote: It s more about 6 years LoTV has been released. And even that s not the case at the start of LoTV that stargate was the main opener, you are assuming to say that WoL and HotS have the same meta than LotV... Then maybe you can satisfy yourself about watching at the same builds for years but not me Stargate has been the standard tech route in macro PvZ for 10 years, even when oracles didn't even exist. I don't disagree with you that LotV killed a lot of diversity in openers (since we're talking about PvZ, forge expands for one), but PvZ hasn't changed all that much. If you open robo or twilight, you're basically all-inning. Perhaps if you changed observers to be as fast as a phoenix, robo openers would be more common.  There is no real change that can be done to prevent it (as shown by the fact that it survived two expansions and still is the best tech route) as the map control and harassment stargates give you is just too good if you plan on playing a macro game. | ||
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tigera6
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Durnuu
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On August 21 2022 01:07 tigera6 wrote: Talking about SG opening in a tournament where no Protoss making it pass Ro16 is so funny. What do you mean? Reynor is playing protoss in the finals | ||
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Elentos
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Durnuu
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On August 21 2022 01:23 Elentos wrote: Since yesterday we had people doubting whether Reynor can make it through his GSL group at all, will we today see an influx of people celebrating him as the first non-Korean to win Code S? If that happens when 2/3 of his opponents were europeans | ||
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RDO
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On August 21 2022 01:23 Elentos wrote: Since yesterday we had people doubting whether Reynor can make it through his GSL group at all, will we today see an influx of people celebrating him as the first non-Korean to win Code S? I won't. I still have doubts, unfortunately. | ||
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Xain0n
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Vision_
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On August 21 2022 01:35 Xain0n wrote: Definitely amusing Embarassing for Protoss, Isn t it ? ps : if i would have been protoss players at the moment i would have retired because of shame | ||
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Durnuu
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More like embarassing for Dark. That choice of build was questionable at best, on a map where you can defend 3 bases on a single choke. | ||
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